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I went with the 73833 because of the split screen and the 120 hz also. My 05 sxrd only did hd on one side and analog on the other. I just confirmed on my set that the mits will do hd on both sides at the same time.
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If you want to watch two D* channels, yes. You only need two different sources to watch any other way. ie. HDMI/Component, ATSC/PC, etc. There are modes that you can't watch together, but since my set doesn't get delivered until tomorrow and Mitsu seems to want to charge $15 for the manual now, I'm not able to tell you exactly. Maybe someone else can chime in with the allowed matrix.

As far the allowed pip matrix: You cannot have two hdmi at the same time: I have my Cable box on component so I can watch a dvd on hdmi and baseball etc on component splitscreen. You can run two component at the same time/ two of the inputs at the same time. You cannot run antenna 1and 2 at the same time. Very versatile and easy to set up.
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lujan is base teh same size of the TV or smaller? Can u post a farther shot of setup with tv?

I'm not sure what you mean by "farther show of setup"?

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ne00 what brand stand is that also how long is it?

It is a "Bush" brand which was very easy to assemble. The width is 58" and the TV screen is almost 65" so the stand is a little narrower than the TV but it didn't matter to me because the TV base is a lot smaller than the screen.

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I went with the 73833 because of the split screen and the 120 hz also. My 05 sxrd only did hd on one side and analog on the other. I just confirmed on my set that the mits will do hd on both sides at the same time.

I thnk that the Diamonds are the only ones with "Deep Color" but I'm not sure. I have had three previous large screen Mitsubishi TVs and have always picked up the lowest priced series. This time I figured I'd "bite the bullet" and for once, get the Diamond series.

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What's wrong with Circuit City? Have they lost their mind?

Why in the freakin' world are they not carrying the diamond series for Mitsubishi?

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I thnk that the Diamonds are the only ones with "Deep Color" but I'm not sure. I have had three previous large screen Mitsubishi TVs and have always picked up the lowest priced series. This time I figured I'd "bite the bullet" and for once, get the Diamond series.

the xx734 also have x.v.color aka deep color.
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What's wrong with Circuit City? Have they lost their mind?

Why in the freakin' world are they not carrying the diamond series for Mitsubishi?

CC does not even carry the 734 but for the 73", the 57" and 65" they carry is a cc only model that is a cross beween a 733 and 734, they have not had the diamond for the last 3+ years that i know of!
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In all your opinions shoudl I wait for laser version next year or get the 73" now. I work for a Mitsu company so I get at dealer cost =)
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Costco carries the Diamond Series. It seems they are relaxing their restrictions on the Diamond now.

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BB is having a sale on all of their widescreens in store. Web site isn't reflecting the sales price.

Between the sale and my 12% off Rewards coupon.. I'll be saving a nice amount.

First of all, thanks for the heads up on this coupon, Pacbellguy, because you gave me the ammunition necessary to go into BB & start the negotiation process & ultimately pull the trigger on the Mitsubishi WD-65833 today.

Here is the thing though, for anyone attempting to use a price match & then the 10% or 12% coupon, the footnoted fine print on the coupon states

"(1) Markdowns taken from regular prices."

I went in to the store looking for a competitive match to the current advertised price at COSTCO, plus the 12% & I was met with considerable resistance at first. I had to work through 1 BB standard floor guy & another Magnolia sales guy before they put me with the senior Magnolia sales guy. It took a few trips back & forth to the computer & 2 discussions on his headset, but he finally combined the price match & the 12% discount which also dropped the service from $450 to $400 for the 4 year warranty. I know that I could get the Mack warranty for less, but the salesman used the warranty purchase as partial justification for the deal that I got.

My advice is to be persistent & get to someone with the authority to manipulate the system and make a decision. As it turns out, the guy I dealt with was familiar with the AVS forum & a self-proclaimed videophile himself, so I would definitely say that it helped. He asked questions about my current set-up & looked for opportunities where he could sell me more equipment, as a good salesperson should. He was no kid & was more knowledgeable than most salesman I have come across in a BB. Nothing against the young blue shirts, but many of them tend to spew information before asking any probing questions to see what your needs are. I am no pro by any stretch of the imagination, but thanks to information gathered on this forum & some research of my own, I know enough about each TV in this size range to at least seem educated.

They do not have any on the floor yet, and I'm not sure when or if they will, but they are in stock in the warehouse & available for store pick-up or home delivery. I analyzed the TV for about an hour at Tweeter right next to another set that I was interested in (Sony 60A3000 - beautiful also & a tight decision, but the Mitsu had a larger, brighter picture; slightly slimmer, more attractive cabinet to my tastes in gloss black), and went right to BB to make the deal.

Anyone living near KOP, PA can PM me if they want the sales guy's name in the Magnolia store so they can get the same deal on this amazing set.
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I am guessing the costco pricematch was for the 65" version? They dont carry the 73 do they?
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Viewing distances for 16 x 9 screens:

57" 6-12ft
65" 7-14ft
73" 8-16ft

Closer the better IMO especially if you watch a lot of HD / HD-DVD / Blu-Ray

See http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hit...esolution.html which includes a graph of seating distance vs. 16:9 diagonal screen size for a variety of formats (http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/ass...alk2_large.jpg). According to this, you'd need to sit about 7.5 feet away from a 65" screen in order to see full 1080i/p HDTV detail. For a 720p program, one could sit almost 13 feet away and still see full 720p detail.

This article also quotes the recommendation of the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) that the width of the screen should span at least 30 degrees of your field of view. By this standard, a 65" diagonal 16:9 TV should be about 9 feet from the viewer.
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First off, I want to thank everyone who has commented over the past days and weeks on both the Mitsubishi WD-65833 & the Sony 60A3000, because I have been wrestling with the decision between these two sets for some time now. I finally had the opportunity to see the Mitsubishi 65833 in person at my local Tweeter store this afternoon, & made the decision to pull the trigger later today. Specific thanks to member "tlbowerts" as he was very responsive to some direct questions I had regarding the product via multiple PM's over the past week.

Due to the postings from multiple members, I was able to take a more targeted approach with my evaluation & purchase process. I will do my best to add to the official thread started by lujan & in the >The Official Mitsubishi 1080p DLP Owners Thread< so that other members trying to decide between the Sony & Mitsubishi will have more information about the latter. I'm sure that as the availability of these new Mitsubishi sets increases, other members will follow suit.

I found that the information & strong positive feedback given about the Sony 60A3000 across multiple threads made the decision between the two sets very difficult & that only seeing the Mitsu today in person swayed me in the other direction. If I see any of the issues that seemed to plague the 733 series & a few 833 series of Mitsubishis in the first 30 days, I will be bringing it back for the Sony, but I hope this will not be the case. I was not able to hear any high pitched noises coming from the set today, even after shutting down most of the neighboring sets, so hopefully they are isolated incidents so far.

My set should be available for in store pickup by this coming weekend & I will post my first impressions when I have had the opportunity to put the set through the paces early next week.
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CC does not even carry the 734 but for the 73", the 57" and 65" they carry is a cc only model that is a cross beween a 733 and 734, they have not had the diamond for the last 3+ years that i know of!

I dont think that's true. C.C. does carry the 734 series at least. I bought the WD73734 a couple of weeks ago.

If you check C.C.'s web site you will see the WD73734 for $3200.

(I got mine for much less!)

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First off, I want to thank everyone who has commented over the past days and weeks on both the Mitsubishi WD-65833 & the Sony 60A3000, because I have been wrestling with the decision between these two sets for some time now. I finally had the opportunity to see the Mitsubishi 65833 in person at my local Tweeter store this afternoon, & made the decision to pull the trigger later today. Specific thanks to member "tlbowerts" as he was very responsive to some direct questions I had regarding the product via multiple PM's over the past week.

Due to the postings from multiple members, I was able to take a more targeted approach with my evaluation & purchase process. I will do my best to add to the official thread started by lujan & in the >The Official Mitsubishi 1080p DLP Owners Thread< so that other members trying to decide between the Sony & Mitsubishi will have more information about the latter. I'm sure that as the availability of these new Mitsubishi sets increases, other members will follow suit.

I found that the information & strong positive feedback given about the Sony 60A3000 across multiple threads made the decision between the two sets very difficult & that only seeing the Mitsu today in person swayed me in the other direction. If I see any of the issues that seemed to plague the 733 series & a few 833 series of Mitsubishis in the first 30 days, I will be bringing it back for the Sony, but I hope this will not be the case. I was not able to hear any high pitched noises coming from the set today, even after shutting down most of the neighboring sets, so hopefully they are isolated incidents so far.

My set should be available for in store pickup by this coming weekend & I will post my first impressions when I have had the opportunity to put the set through the paces early next week.

Was told by a Mit serivce tech( and heared samething from 2 others so far) that the color wheel (high pitched noises) issue has been resolved by mit that was find on some of the sets, and if you would get one of these , it can be fix in your home, and same tech said this was on isolated sets, so if this is right , this sure is good news!!!
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I dont think that's true. C.C. does carry the 734 series at least. I bought the WD73734 a couple of weeks ago.

If you check C.C.'s web site you will see the WD73734 for $3200.

(I got mine for much less!)

I said but for the 73734!! they do not carry the 57" or 65" 734, they have their own models Y-657 and Y-557 they are a cross beween a 733 and 734, most on here knows this!! Go to their web site and the only 734 you will see is the 73734!!
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I said but for the 73734!! they do not carry the 57" or 65" 734, they have their own models Y-657 and Y-557 they are a cross beween a 733 and 734, most on here knows this!! Go to their web site and the only 734 you will see is the 73734!!

Most here would know because they are informed.

I am mostly not. I learn what others teach me on this forum!

Thanks for the info.!

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Was told by a Mit serivce tech( and heared samething from 2 others so far) that the color wheel (high pitched noises) issue has been resolved by mit that was find on some of the sets, and if you would get one of these , it can be fix in your home, and same tech said this was on isolated sets, so if this is right , this sure is good news!!!

I actually read your post on 9/2 about this & decided to take a chance. With a 30 day return policy & the BB 4 yr EW, I'm not really that worried. I'm getting really psyched actually!
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I have both , and they are about same as far as PQ, but got the 833 as have 2 kids that does a lot of gaming, and the 120Hz does seem to make a differents with gaming, also like the high gross look of the 833, and have lots of light in family room, and the anti glare screen does help with this,but over all but for 4 features the 2 are the same.

Thanks--coming from someone who owns both and has em tweaked that means a lot more than some 10' side by side comparison at a big box. Most of my gaming is of the wii variety and pip is of no consequence. My worries I guess come down to the cheaper frame/bowing issues of the medallion and a spate of light engine failures discussed on the 734 thread that may be finally resolved with the new diamonds.

On the other hand $$ "saved" is $$ spent on screen size--after seeing the 7373 at Magnolia hold its own against some fine displays costing much more per sq inch (the 4681 Sammy was very yummy, and even more pricey at 4k), I can easily justify the upsize from 57 to 65 (whats more, It should get thru the front door and down the stairs easily--wheraes my Tosh 65 CRT is garage bound)

Decisions, decisions......

BTW not all BB Magnolia's carry the Diamond--the one in westminster, colorado does not and an asst manager made clear no exceptions. Weird that some do, some dont.
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For those that have the 65833, who feels that it needs to be professionally calibrated out of the box? The salesman that I dealt with at BB let me know that they bought a $10K machine to do ISF calibration & the cost is $300 to me for this set. I have already read mixed opinions on this forum about BB's ability to offer quality calibration at this price, but my question is whether this set needs it, or can I make some user accessible adjustments to get get good performance out of the set?

While in the store, the Magnolia guy showed me a plasma set that had been calibrated & the settings saved under "custom" versus both the "vibrant" & "standard" settings on the same TV. I thought that the color accuracy was significantly improved with calibration, especially when watching the blues in a water scene. I'm not sure if it is safe to say that every display device would benefit equally from professional calibration, or was it just the set they chose for demonstration purposes.

Thanks in advance for any advice on this.
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Now that I've had a long weekend to play with the 73833, here are some observations:

1. The inputs are much more friendlier because the TV automatically recognizes when you connect any input.

2. The picture is much brighter than my prior Mits which I like a lot but some have actually turned down the brightness.

3. I have tried changing some of the video settings according to another poster but didn't like all of them myself. It all comes down to personal taste.

The only negative I've encountered affects those of us that use a universal remote. The TV takes quite a while to warm up when you first turn it on so it may take more than 30 seconds to be ready for a signal to switch inputs. I have three of the four HDMI inputs taken and if I watch a Blu-ray movie right before going to bed and then try to watch satellite the next morning, the remote may try to change inputs but the TV isn't ready so I have to change the input manually. I have to keep tweaking the remote to wait longer before trying to change inputs. This is minor IMO but a little annoying.

I still have to try to tweak the video settings some more but will have to wait a couple of weeks before I have time to do it.

Chime in if you have more specific questions.

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Now that I've had a long weekend to play with the 73833, here are some observations:

1. The inputs are much more friendlier because the TV automatically recognizes when you connect any input.

2. The picture is much brighter than my prior Mits which I like a lot but some have actually turned down the brightness.

3. I have tried changing some of the video settings according to another poster but didn't like all of them myself. It all comes down to personal taste.

The only negative I've encountered affects those of us that use a universal remote. The TV takes quite a while to warm up when you first turn it on so it may take more than 30 seconds to be ready for a signal to switch inputs. I have three of the four HDMI inputs taken and if I watch a Blu-ray movie right before going to bed and then try to watch satellite the next morning, the remote may try to change inputs but the TV isn't ready so I have to change the input manually. I have to keep tweaking the remote to wait longer before trying to change inputs. This is minor IMO but a little annoying.

I still have to try to tweak the video settings some more but will have to wait a couple of weeks before I have time to do it.

Chime in if you have more specific questions.

I have a Harmony 880 remote, The good thing with these remotes is you can set lag time before all the other imputs are needed to be turned on or changed. So it give the TV time to warm up before proceeding.
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Were are you guys doing your upconverting. Is the Tv pretty good at it, or are you letting your DVD players or recievers do it?
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I have a Harmony 880 remote, The good thing with these remotes is you can set lag time before all the other imputs are needed to be turned on or changed. So it give the TV time to warm up before proceeding.

That's true but I've already set the delay for 30 seconds and it still doesn't warm up in time sometimes. I guess I will have to try 35 seconds?

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Were are you guys doing your upconverting. Is the Tv pretty good at it, or are you letting your DVD players or recievers do it?

The TV never does upconversion. The source does the upconversion. The TV just displays what it is being passed to it.

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Stangflyer's question about whether or not this television will "see" an HDMI connection fed thru a receiver that has 1.3 HDMI connectors is a fairly important one. Anyone had any problems with this?
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I pick up a 65833 yesterday. Looks very good. I can hear the fan if I mute the TV it is not silent. The other big thing was after the first hour, the unit turn it self off. It was not a pleasant sound, a pop like a circuit breaker going off. I turn it back on after a minute and everything is fine. I initially though what a POS. It has not happen again. It happen when I just first turn on the split screen for about 2 minutes.
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I pick up a 65833 yesterday. Looks very good. I can hear the fan if I mute the TV it is not silent. The other big thing was after the first hour, the unit turn it self off. It was not a pleasant sound, a pop like a circuit breaker going off. I turn it back on after a minute and everything is fine. I initially though what a POS. It has not happen again. It happen when I just first turn on the split screen for about 2 minutes.

That's strange, I'm going to have to try the split screen when I get home.

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The TV never does upconversion. The source does the upconversion. The TV just displays what it is being passed to it.

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This TV upconverts all sources to 1080p. How good is the question. Is it better to feed the TV 480i/p and let the TV do ALL of the upconversion, or is better to upconvert to 720p, or 1080i and let the tv do the rest.

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