He was referring to his 30 inch Loewe Aconda, which he mentioned in an earlier post, has (had?) a flat face.
As for the B&O . . . Baron, you are the only person I have seen who holds their image in such regard. Everyone, and I do mean everyone
likes the look of the television
. Physically. But its image and its features as a television product, leave much to be desired. I can't find anything to show specs for video processing in the B&O, but I'll again say I'd be awfully surprised if they were doing much more than simple comb filtering.
I'm not sure if the B&O MX4000 is one that I've seen or not, but for only a 20 inch tube, I'd have a hard time putting it against the more popular and much larger tubes we chat up on this board. I'll try to ring up my friend and see what model he has, but in the meantime, I read through this thread months ago and it had me roaring with laughter at points
- I got meself a nice shiney B&O MX4000
- I can recommend the B&O Beovision MX4000 or 42000. Its a 4:3 21" screen that is very easy to TATE [to turn on its side] and has a spectacular picture!
- I'll second the notion of going with a B&O set. You'll be hard pressed to find such a perfect fusion of style and function in the CRT world.
- Style over substance!
- Go for a "run of the mill" classic (black) Sony CRT. Cheaper, more reliable and ten a penny availability wise
- As recommended I would go for a [Sony] BVM. I mean this is not just our hobby, this is our passion! You're spending hours and hours before that display.
- What exactly about the B&O fell short?
- Clarity of image over a Trinitron, which is not surprising when you realise the 21" mx's use not so great Phillips tubes.
- they [the B&O's] are very very nice CRT's and of course have the added deinterlace function that is selectable.
- Just lost out on a local eBay bid on a B&O MX4000 with remote, it ended up at £165 !
- £165 for a B&O MX!!!!! Whoever bought that for that price must still be pissed on the mulled wine!
- I would not be paying that kind of money though..... it really isn't worth it (you can buy a Sony PVM for less than that..... heaven forbid, I bought a Sony BVM for less than that! lol). Max price would be £50 for a MX, especially when you can bag a good Sony CRT for £10!
- I have not regretted any aspect of these sets. Picture quality is amazing especially when chassis is tuned correctly (thanks again Fagin). They are the slimmest Tvs you will find, and slot nicely into any game room.
- However, there is some truth into how the MX4000 handle NTSC signals, colours are a bit washed out and picture softer vs my CM8833...
- If you noticed that too, it shows my unit is not faulty handling 60hz NTSC signals. Did you notice some kind of color bleeding too?
- I have managed to fiddle around with the MX4000 setting and the picture has improved massively..I had to tone the Brillance setting right down (to 14) Colour is really vibrant now and even a little less blurry
- Colour bleed is normal on these types of sets..... don't forget it's only a consumer set-up.
- Both are colourful enough but it is indeed not as vibrant as the Trinitron I use with my Supergun test rig. This must partly be down to the screen cover as well. [Followed by a laughably dull, dim photo comparison of Sonic the Hedgehog with the same image on a Trinitron.]
- I have the crosshatch already set up, but every time I switch from TV to RGB (or Tape 1/2) I lose the service menu option! So how the flying hell am I supposed to tune RGB?
- Blindly..... I'm serious! This is a major flaw on these sets.
- Ah, so the tv REALLY is a pain in the ass to set up and it wasn't just me being stupid.
And things go on and on like this, but the cherry on top was the OP chiming in after several pages of fiddling with his B&O MX4000 to say:
You know what?
F*ck the B&O MX4000. Really, f*ck it.
Get a Trinitron.
I have to confirm a sentiment, that has been posted in this thread long ago:
Don't be fooled by the nice and stylish appearance of the MX line...
I should have gotten a trinitron set on the beginning of my retro-crt-journey... Could have saved me quite some money (well, not that much) and especially hassle.
I changed the thread topic accordingly. [Note: He had changed the thread topic title to the bolded text above--only changing it back later at the request of other B&O users because it contained useful information for dealing with these finicky, underdesigned TVs.]
Seriously, forget about getting a B&O - Trinitron all the way, baby!
There's a lot of mention of deinterlacing mode in this thread. But also that it has no buffer at all. Meaning it isn't processing, all it is actually doing for "deinterlacing" is offsetting each field. This provides a lower resolution image that may appear sharper under certain circumstances, and is particularly desirable for old school classic gamers for "that look" that it provides, of dark, black, blank "scanlines." It would appear that in all other aspects, the B&O line is geared to look nice sitting in your living room, but with the crappier end of Philips-made tubes, a mind made to slimness (before "slim fit" was even really a thing for mainstream CRT), and low resolution to boot, there is nothing much to set the B&O apart. Even the... glare filter glass (?) or what ever the hell it is supposed to be unnecessarily dulls the image (also complained about mightily in that thread), these things were made for housewives to go "oooh" at and relent at an upscale pricetag it would seem.