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I've loved my Sony KV-34XBR800 for 12 years, but I dropped it and have to replace it.

I've been roaming the stores here in NYC and am shocked at how inferior all the flat screens look! This is not CRT snobbery - I just see a ton of artifacts and softness on all the sets.

What have CRT lovers found in a flatscreen that's watchable? The 4K sets are amazing, but only with 4K content, which of course is unavailable. Watching cable on them looks just as bad as a regular flatscreen.

Do I have to seek out a used Sony or is there a flat screen that comes close to a CRT?

Unfortunately, $1,000 is my upper limit in price. Is there any hope?

Mark

BTW, here's how my set looks now - there's no hope of repair, is there?

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Craigslist, EBay... for a used CRT.

CRT holdouts will say there's nothing better. And.... they may be correct.

Reality is that it's now 2014, CRT's are not going to make a comeback. So, look for something that meets your budget.
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I wasn't expecting to find a CRT. I was asking what flat screens CRT lovers have found acceptable.

Nothing under $2,000 looks acceptable to me, and I can't afford that.
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Some former Sony 960 owners over on that thread love the Panasonic VT plasma models.

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LOL! When I read the title I thought maybe you meant that you dropped it and you were trapped behind it and were pleading for help. I was about to call 911 for you!

And yes, I agree with the poster above: definitely check out the Panasonic vt60. More budget friendly is the st60, which is nearly as phenomenal. But I hear there are some lag issues with the st60, so be aware of that if you are a gamer.

You're never going to get the pq that your CRT had. But the panny plasmas come closest, in my opinion.

Honestly, if you don't have your tv hooked up to a sound system, what you are going to miss most in panel TV's is the sound quality that your Sony had.

P.S. If you want a 30" xs955 and can figure out how to get it to NY, you can check out mine in the classifieds.

I just took my VT60 out of the box and started watching it. Is that ok?
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That screenshot just looks like your colour is shot to hell. Try degaussing it by turning it on and off, give it about 10 minutes after a turn-off so the degausser can better do its job. If this doesn't help, or if it doesn't get it back to normal again, a manual degausser should do the trick in a minute or two. Seriously, that looks like no big deal for a CRT, it just needs to be degaussed.

And you need to pump some iron and ask a buddy for a hand before you move it again.

See here, and here. Unless you've got geometry or other problems that I can't make out from the image you posted, I would be very surprised if a good working over with a degauss did not fix it.
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If this doesn't help, or if it doesn't get it back to normal again, a manual degausser should do the trick in a minute or two. Seriously, that looks like no big deal for a CRT, it just needs to be degaussed..

Check this thread. Apparently a manual degaussing is a "no-no" on a Sony CRT according to one of the contributors.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1510579/purple-spot-on-my-sony-kd-34xbr960

Also.... looks like there are geometry problems that will need to be resolved too.
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And here's a somewhat recent AVS article on plasmas:

http://www.avsforum.com/a/avs-forums-top-5-plasma-tvs

and LCD's:

http://www.avsforum.com/a/avs-forums-top-9-lcd-tvs?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email

That 800 of your's looks FUBAR unless you know what the heck your doing. But you could pop open the back and see if anything is obviously loose like the circuit board plugged into the end of the tube's neck or some of the tube magnets (can probably glue them back in their original spots).

Some funny replies here. biggrin.gif

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Check this thread. Apparently a manual degaussing is a "no-no" on a Sony CRT according to one of the contributors.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1510579/purple-spot-on-my-sony-kd-34xbr960

Yeah, I checked it when I posted to it. Long answer is involved, but the essential of it is he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
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Also.... looks like there are geometry problems that will need to be resolved too.

I can't tell from what looks like a natureland scene filled with completely uneven topography and foliage that there are geometry errors, but he's got little to fear of causing such a thing by way of degaussing.
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I don't know the validity but there are a couple of eHow articles on degaussing Trinitrons:

http://www.ehow.com/how_12181141_degauss-sony-trinitron-flat-screen.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_7207355_degauss-sony-trinitron.html

Note the warnings at the bottom as well as distances used.

I don't agree with this: "Turn the set off and on in rapid succession, eliminating any residual magnetization." I fried an old RCA's degauss circuit doing just that, but maybe Trinitrons have timed or thermal protection built into their circuits (but if that's the case then what good would rapid off/on do?).

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I can't tell from what looks like a natureland scene filled with completely uneven topography and foliage that there are geometry errors,

Take a second look at the "V" shape of the picture (the black bars on bottom left and right). Also note the tilt of the TCM logo....
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I can't in any way attribute that to geometry when I can't see the rest of the television. The shot is so close you can't tell if it was snapped at an angle. The TCM logo is in fact tilted but it is also straight, no faulty geometry there. That tilt looks like it could be due to the deflection yoke being shifted, and in cases like that there is a tilt to the entire image, this is also easily fixed but a lot less obvious to noobs than messing with degauss.

At any rate, I'm sure a heavy duty degauss would bring the color back in line, then the rest can be sorted, because the color is all kinds of ******ed way worse before even looking at geometry.
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Whatever... it was just my observation. IMO, your guess is no better than mine.
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Boys, boys - both valid points. Heck when I stare at that pic long enough I start to see faces towards the lower left corner. eek.gif

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People make money off of that stuff. Potato that looks like NIxon... Mary on the toast... Jesus in the clouds at sunset... reflection of Elvis on a store window.
There may be some profit from that accident. Or........ was it really an accident?

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