Bremerton, I'll apologize in advance, because I don't want you to think I am trying to single you out or heap mud on you. You are kind of at the center of this issue, so your name is going to come up. No hard feelings! :)
Here's what we need to do folks. There's mostly speculation and guess work that's happened in this thread.
No one, except apparently Bremerton, has been able to have ANYONE from Zenith acknowledge this problem in any fashion whatsoever. I find that rather convenient and interesting... I need to see verification on that very quickly.
Bremerton, I am still waiting for you to furnish me some hard evidence that Zenith has indeed put out a bulletin on this matter, as you say they did.
It's amazing that you are the only one that was supposedly able to get this confirmation from them. I ask you now: Prove it.
You are the only one, apparently, if I am to believe your earlier posts, that was able to get this amazing revelation out of Zenith.
If that's truly the case, you should be able to furnish us easily with the case numbers and bulletin numbers/codes. I don't think you really have it, but we'll find out.
I await the disclosure.
I spoke with LG themselves yesterday, and they too, had absolutely nothing on this issue. They actually called me, if you can imagine that.
Now, how much further do we need to go up the food chain, huh?
Should I call the President of LG in Korea and ask him next?
Surely ALL of these insiders can't be wrong, or idiots, as Bremerton has accused them of being in earlier posts. It's just losing ground every day.
Let's boil it down to FACTS, and nothing else:
It's ASSUMED that this is the same problem as the Sony XBR910 had.
That is not ESTABLISHED FACT. That's playing connect the dots and moving forward under an assumption.
It does look like it on the surface of the issue, but we don't know that for sure.
This issue ONLY shows up under very tight criteria: 1080i HD, Component video input off of a cable box. Nothing else. We've all gone up and down, debugging this thing, and this is the only way it shows up.
That's an extremely narrow field to be working with here, don't you think?
OPINION: I would think that if the TV itself has a problem, you'd see it under broader criteria than just this. Maybe not...
I am using top of the line Monster component cables, so maybe the problem is less pronounced for me than some of you. Doesn't matter. The problem exists. We know that much. <shrugs>
Now, maybe I'm wrong here, but a cable box is a cable box is a cable box. I don't care if it's Pioneer, Motorola, or what. There just isn't going to be any major differences in how they operate, so it's my OPINION that cable box make is irrelevant. Maybe not.
My OPINION says this: Both the TV and cable box are doing what they are supposed to do. They are both following their designs perfectly.
The TV already has the built in decoder, and obviously, the cable box does. So, you have an overlap of sorts. This could be where the "conflict" is at 1080i. Both things trying to do the job at the same time. </OPINION>
No one, except Bremerton apparently, has been able to have anyone from Zenith give the slightest acknowledgement of this issue. This includes dealerships and technicians. NO ONE!
I've called up and down the food chain as has my authorized Zenith dealership/service center. Same goes for the rest of you, based on what I read here.
Heh, Zenith is even aware of these forums and this thread!
So, how much more specifically on the ball do they need to be before they shake off this "idiot" label that Bremerton has been throwing around?
Now, Bremerton can go ahead and excuse them off as idiots, like he did in an earlier post, but how many idiots are we going to be talking about when I go all the way up to LG themselves like I did yesterday?
It's just not holding water very well at this point. At all. There's some holes here in this plot that need to be filled.
Bremerton, frankly put: You need to start backing up the things you have been saying. And you need to do it soon. I need you to do it so I know exactly where I stand and can back myself up with Zenith, because this brick wall routine I am getting with them is going nowhere.
This will be done when you prove to us that Zenith has put out these bulletins as you say they did. I don't think you can do it, but please prove me wrong.
Codes, numbers, links, names. All of it. Please.
Bottom line: FACT:
We do not know for absolute certainty that this is a problem with the TV. There just has not been enough of a compelling body of evidence to go on yet.
Yes, Bremerton that's a fact.
You are assuming it's the XBR910 problem and acting accordingly. Maybe you'll hit it right, if you're lucky.
It's as fair a guess as anything else, and it won't surprise me if that ultimately does get established as fact. But, we aren't there yet. And Zenith isn't there yet, obviously.
I'll be watching this thread come the end of April and see if you come back and tell us all is perfect.
So, if we're going to continue on with this subject, let's all of us be very clear about FACT vs. opinion and speculation.