Well I am back and now it is a different issue in that the the ATSC tuner seems to be messed up although the NTSC is fine. I had 20-some channels logged into the memory. From the analog channels going up I see Ch 2 with the PSIP into. I am missing the second channel 2 I had. I get a D 03-1 and D 03-2. The I get 4 and 5 with PSIP then it goes to Video 1. If I go down from there, get 57 and 51 then back to analog. If I manually enter a channel number then I see more channels. With the PSIP I see 9, 17, 21, 23, 25 and 29. Without I see 8, 10, 12, 15, 19, 24, 30, 35, 47, 48, 50 and 51. Everything else seems fine. Is it time for me to make the upgrade to a flat panel with built-in tuners?