Originally Posted by midnite2
I am new to this but would like to move the overall picture up and to the left for every input and setting. Will changing HPOS and VPOS in 2170D-1, 2170D-2 do it? Should I just adjust the vertical adjustment in the user menu and horizontal in the SM? I am trying to keep this as easy as possible for myself. I have read through this thread and I am confused if I also need to adjust HNCT and/or settings in MID2/3? any help would be greatly appreciated.
(1) Whatever you decide to try and change (to see what happens, and to decide for yourself whether or not your problem is completely resolved to your satisfaction), be sure and write down all of the current values for these settings before you change anything. That way you can always put things back the way they were before you started fooling around.
(2) You MUST have a stationary test pattern to use for your controlled primary adjustments, provided either by a calibration DVD (e.g. Digital Video Essentials). Don't think you can accomplish anything good with a "live" and moving picture from real content.
(3) Personally, in my 34XBR960 case all of the vertical adjustments in the user menu are unaltered from their 0 position (as they came from the factory). I used only the service menu to move things around.
(4) I believe that the horizontal and vertical size and position controls in the service menu are "global", in that you don't have to go to every input uniquely and accept every HD resolution on the HD inputs uniquely in order to set the geometry/overscan for the set. I believe what you set becomes effective for all inputs. This can be seen by my spreadsheet since adjustments were done only using one input and resolution and yet all of those same setting values seem to have gotten propagated to all inputs and resolutions columns.
(5) In 2170D-1 I used 0 (VPOS vertical position) and 1 (VSIZ vertical size) to adjust the "background" vertically. In 2170D-2 I used only 1 (HPOS horizontal position) and 2 (HSIZ horizontal size) to adjust the "background" horizontally. In MID3 I used 0 (VDHP horizontal position), 1 (VDHS horizontal size), 2 (VDVE vertical position) and 3 (VDVS vertical size) to manipulate the "foreground image" on top of the "background".
(6) Your description of a desire to move your picture "up and to the left" (though you haven't added what input or resolution you're looking at) has a vertical and horizontal component to it, so you will probably need to use all of the vertical and horizontal controls... in the service menu, not user menu. Just be sure you have all of your initial values written down first. And be sure and adjust ONE CLICK AT A TIME, to see what happens onscreen. Did that do the trick, or do you need ONE MORE CLICK? Slow and steady, go back and forth, better or worse, etc.
(7) Also, inevitably you have to return to an item you've already adjusted and moved on because you thought that one was finished, just to see whether your initial setting is still ok or perhaps has been affected by some other later adjustment somewhere else. It will be easy to test whether it's still good or bad by just ONE CLICK up/down or left/right, to view the effect and decide whether you should leave things as they are or go with the new setting or reverse directions or whatever. Slow and steady.
(8) Write your adjusted values down as you settle on them.
(9) Horizontal and vertical SIZE adjustments allow you to manipulate "overscan", and I'm sure that you'll want to look at that as well. With a proper stationary test pattern (cross-hatched, with grid marks that show percentages) you will be able to work on this as well. It'll be easy to see how much of the pattern's perimeter edges has been "cropped out" by the overscan settings, and then how much you can bring cleanly back in (without introducing edge anomalies or video noise) by your adjustments.
(10) Again... write everything down when you start, before you change any particular value. And then write your ending/adjusted values down as well. If you want you can certainly use my spreadsheet as a starting point for your own reference, but I can't promise that the XBR960 and XS955 service menu items and default values are the same. However you can obviously modify your copy of my spreadsheet as needed.
And do your experimenting and adjustment ONE CLICK AT A TIME, observing what happens on the screen... better or worse.