Originally posted by CrocHunter
The reason a lot of us don't like philips sets' is a lot of us that ourchased them have had nothing but problems with them, and they have horrible stretch modes for 4:3 material that are pretty much useless.
This is refuring to the 8402 philips models.
I'm not saying that these are perfect, but other tv's have problems too. For example, one that sticks out in my mind is the Sony's that had a green blob on the screen. There was a really long thread on this issue. Anyways, the only real problem with mine that I cannot fix is the light vertical bands that will sometimes show up on 480i/p sources on a light grey/blue background. When I got my set, I had thought about returning it, but then I realized in the grand scheme of things, this was a pretty small issue, compared to other problems a tv set could have. With the picture controls set to agree with my AVIA dvd, those vertical lines are almost non-existent, and incredibly faint when I am able to notice them, and then, only when there is a constant horizontal pan in the picture.
Anyways, as far as the stretch modes go, I believe that all philips have the same modes, which are:
4:3 - puts black bars on the sides of a 4:3 image (nothing is stretched or cropped)
zoom 14:9 - puts smaller black bars on the sides and crops a little of the top and bottom (basically zooms the picture in a little)
zoom 16:9 - crops the top and bottom to fit the screen
subtitle 16:9 - basically the same thing as zoom 16:9 but is lowered to emphasize cc text
superwide - crops just a little of the top and bottom and does a non-linear stretch on the picture to make it fill the screen
widescreen - stretches the 4:3 linearly to fill widescreen, or correctly displays anamorphic widescreen material
auto - uses superwide for standard 4:3 signals, but will switch to 16:9 zoom or other zoom to crop black bars off the top and bottom of a letterboxed widescreen image.
with the zoom 14:9, zoom 16:9, subtitle 16:9, superwide, and auto, you can actually move the zoomed image up or down to fit the program you are watching. For example, i use the nudge control to move the superwide up just a notch so the ticker on fox news is completely visible.
I'd like to see a tv that has more options that this for dealing with 4:3 content. On my set, these stretch modes are limited to 480i sources. On the newer sets like the 8402 and most probably the 9100 series, these modes work for 480p sources, important for the gamers out there.