The OFFICIAL Sony KD-34XBR970 34" HDTV Thread... - Page 2 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the Watchuseek.com newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!


Forum Jump: 
 2Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #31 of 3307 Old 02-16-2006, 06:48 PM
 
squonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,129
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
20 bucks says "porcupine2" answers this question.
squonk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 3307 Old 02-16-2006, 09:29 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:


Can anybody tell me the estimate number of pixels or dots in the HS420 tube vs. XBR960 tube? What are the resolutions in each?

65%
kny3twalker is offline  
post #33 of 3307 Old 02-17-2006, 03:08 AM
AVS Special Member
 
biker19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: McLean, VA
Posts: 3,704
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthJersey View Post

then why didn't Sony label this as an HS5xxx instead of xbr970. some are going to think this tv is the successor to the xbr960, which has a lot more features than the 970

Cause the marketeers need something to do.

If the set has the XBR chip in it, Sony would want to tout that over any other feature.
biker19 is offline  
post #34 of 3307 Old 02-17-2006, 08:13 AM
AVS Special Member
 
justsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 2,689
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by kny3twalker View Post

here are pictures justsc

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7141478

kny3twalker,

Thanks a bunch.
justsc is offline  
post #35 of 3307 Old 02-17-2006, 08:39 AM
AVS Special Member
 
greenland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,385
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Liked: 389
Quote:
Originally Posted by cireaasirefan View Post

Can anybody tell me the estimate number of pixels or dots in the HS420 tube vs. XBR960 tube? What are the resolutions in each?

Walt,

It is still far heavier than the 30inch set you just cancelled for being too heavy. Hoping that less pixels will provide you with an anorexic 34inch set, are you!.
greenland is offline  
post #36 of 3307 Old 02-17-2006, 09:12 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Ratman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Collingswood, N.J.
Posts: 15,429
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 567 Post(s)
Liked: 474
Walter,
Maybe you should be looking for new stand also?
Ratman is online now  
post #37 of 3307 Old 02-17-2006, 09:22 AM
 
squonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,129
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenland View Post

Walt,

It is still far heavier than the 30inch set you just cancelled for being too heavy. Hoping that less pixels will provide you with an anorexic 34inch set, are you!.

see that previous thread for my suggestions on how he could get a heavier set lifted. If he makes it a "group" effort, it may be possible.
squonk is offline  
post #38 of 3307 Old 02-17-2006, 12:25 PM
AVS Special Member
 
greenland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,385
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Liked: 389
Quote:
Originally Posted by squonk View Post

see that previous thread for my suggestions on how he could get a heavier set lifted. If he makes it a "group" effort, it may be possible.

LOL

Seems to me that you may have some new members who are also afflicted with the dreaded condition which I have chosen to name:
WaltChan By Proxy, Syndrome.
greenland is offline  
post #39 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 09:26 AM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Ok, i know this is the first time i posted in this thread and I am a "newbie" but i have been reading the 960 threads for awhile and the 970s. The 960 has always been a little spendy for me so i have been leaning towards the 970 if it has the SFP. Well after all the speculation and holding off on buying anything until it is released i figured i would wait to see if the 970 will be SFP. I did call the 800 sony line and asked if the tube will be a SFP and they said yes (I was transferred 2 times to make sure it was for sure). I then sent an email to sony style asking why their website did not reflect this and here is a copy and paste of the email i recieved from them:

According to the product specialist all XBR's have the SFP. Since the KD-34XBR970 is a pre-sale item the specs pdf has not been released yet which explains the absence for the website.

Thank you for choosing Sony Style!

Sony Style Customer Care
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #40 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 09:30 AM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So one question i have, i know this is missing the cable card and a subwoofer and firewire. Will i miss the firewire? The only thing i will ever have hooked up to this is a HD DVD player with a HDMI input and a HD cable box from the cable company. This tv should be sufficient right?
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #41 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 11:55 AM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
firewire can be used with a HD cable box and a D VHS recorder

and if you think it has the Super Fine Pitch tube, order it, no one here is trying to stop you

but you should know you are putting your money on the CS agents that claim all XBRs have "SFP", and this is not true

only in CRTs and only for two generations 910 and 960

furthermore I am sure what you gain by continuously posting this misinformation over and over
whether you can accept it or not, its misinformation
kny3twalker is offline  
post #42 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Im not trying to misinform anything i am just saying what i was told. I dont see what it hurts to tell what i was told.
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #43 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 12:11 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
it hurts people here cause you are acting like its the truth
and as long as you do that its misinformation rather than a good laugh at the expense of the Sony representatives
kny3twalker is offline  
post #44 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 12:15 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Im onlyl guilty of what i have been told by sony so if they are lying than thats their fault not mine, And the thing i posted on #48 is indeed what the email said from sony style the exact wording was: According to the product specialist all XBR's have the SFP. Since the KD-34XBR970 is a pre-sale item the specs pdf has not been released yet which explains the absence for the website.

Thank you for choosing Sony Style!

Sony Style Customer Care
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #45 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 12:16 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So how could i be giving misinformation when that is what sony told me? Then you will have to call them misinformants because it them who told me this.
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #46 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 12:39 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Ok, i officially made a fool of myself, i called the sony style phone number and the guy told me the 970 will not have the SFP so obviously one sony rep has a different story than another so i wish i would have never reported anything. lol
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #47 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 01:09 PM
Member
 
CCMOO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 160
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
motorhead,

it's obvious people here are not inclined to believe you. if you have an incident # or case # from your sony style email - post it here. then one of us can call sony and say that they got this email, with this case #. (i'd be happy to make that call, but it would probably be better if it was someone like greenland or someone who flat-out doesn't believe you.)

so, give us the case/incident number, so we can call sony and find out what's what. if you don't have that number, then you're not to be believed.
CCMOO is offline  
post #48 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 01:15 PM
Member
 
joebxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by motorhead7319 View Post

Ok, i officially made a fool of myself, i called the sony style phone number and the guy told me the 970 will not have the SFP so obviously one sony rep has a different story than another so i wish i would have never reported anything. lol

Do not take it so personally, you thought you had valid information and that's what you went with. The only fault was that people were trying to say don't believe everything a CSR tells you, for a lot of reasons, let's wait and se what's real, but you didn't want to believe it. I promise, if you call again in several days you might get a different answer again. Sad, but that's the way it works.
joebxr is offline  
post #49 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Fine here is the incident number since you dont believe me. #060215-001369
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #50 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 05:04 PM
Advanced Member
 
Stinky-Dinkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 915
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 13
As far as pure picture quality is concerned, is this a step up or a step down from the KD-34XBR960?
Stinky-Dinkins is offline  
post #51 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 05:44 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Yeah i would say without the sfp it is definately less of a tv than the 960.
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #52 of 3307 Old 02-18-2006, 05:47 PM
Member
 
motorhead7319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Yeah when i talked to the last csr at sony that told me it does not have it, i asked him why and he said it was because that way they can sell a "high" end tv at an affordable price point for consumers. LOL
motorhead7319 is offline  
post #53 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 01:02 PM
Member
 
CCMOO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 160
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Sony press release this week on xbr970. Nothing about SFP. I think we can move onto other things now.

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/6482
CCMOO is offline  
post #54 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 01:53 PM
Senior Member
 
julio388's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
yep, so there it is, no super fine pitch. Why will sony leave it out in their press release? If they were going to have superfine pitch later on. Thats because the cost and reliability issue associated with the superfine tube. There were many problems with the sony sfp technology. Sony decided to stop the research and development of fine tuning this technology. From reading the press release sony mention a new line in their xbr series: non super fine pitch. that means no sfp.
julio388 is offline  
post #55 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 04:07 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:


From reading the press release sony mention a new line in their xbr series: non super fine pitch. that means no sfp.

Quote:



Sony's New XBR HDTV

Leading this year's direct-view lineup is the 34-inch 16:9 KD-34XBR970 model with top-of-the-line performance features and advanced picture technologies.

With such advanced image functions as Digital Reality Creation Multi Function Circuitry® (DRC-MF), CineMotion® inverse 3:2 pulldown, Dynamic Picture processor circuitry, ClearEdge VM and Trinitone® color temperature technology, this HD set delivers stunning picture performance.

The 1080i native resolution model also features a built-in ATSC 8VSB digital tuner with clear QAM and a NTSC tuner for easy access to high-definition and standard-definition programming. Additionally, the set offers an HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) and two component inputs for connecting other devices, such as an high-definition cable or satellite tuner and a DVD player.

where does it say non super fine pitch
not that I think it includes it, but it does not say those words
kny3twalker is offline  
post #56 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 04:15 PM
AVS Special Member
 
biker19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: McLean, VA
Posts: 3,704
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 11
How would you interpret this news release?

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/6482

The XS will soldier on as is or will it be discontinued?
biker19 is offline  
post #57 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 04:29 PM
Member
 
joebxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by biker19 View Post

How would you interpret this news release?

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/6482

The XS will soldier on as is or will it be discontinued?

not sure about the XS, but I believe that Sony will continue with some version of the 960 at a price point below current. The reason I say that is
(1) I purchased mine 2 weeks ago from local Sony Authorized dealer ...so I think retail from Sony may drop again
(2) and because of statement in press release:
"There's still plenty of consumer demand for direct-view televisions,''said Tom Evans, vice president of television marketing for Sony Electronics. "They provide people looking to step-up to HD television a great value and for others satisfied with standard definition, an attractive price and solid performance."

I don't believe that a $xxx set will top the line for Sony

(All my opinion and nothing I can support with facts)
joebxr is offline  
post #58 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 04:30 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Q of BanditZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: blurayoasis.com
Posts: 15,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by kny3twalker View Post

where does it say non super fine pitch
not that I think it includes it, but it does not say those words

If they don't bother to mention it anywhere, it's probably not a feature.

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
Q of BanditZ is offline  
post #59 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 05:05 PM
 
squonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,129
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by cireaasirefan View Post

Where did you get this idea? I find this very hard to believe. Please provide proof.

waltchan asking someone else for proof? That's kind of like Madonna asking someone if they've been checked for STDs, isn't it?
squonk is offline  
post #60 of 3307 Old 02-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Member
 
joebxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by squonk View Post

waltchan asking someone else for proof? That's kind of like Madonna asking someone if they've been checked for STDs, isn't it?

Hey, hey...leave Madonna out of this....(LOL)
joebxr is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Direct View (single tube) CRT Displays

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off