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post #61 of 3303 Old 02-19-2006, 05:58 PM
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joebxr where did you find a deal like that?
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joebxr where did you find a deal like that?

Local store in Syr, NY...not BB or CC
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"There's still plenty of consumer demand for direct-view televisions,'' said Tom Evans, vice president of television marketing for Sony Electronics. "They provide people looking to step-up to HD television a great value and for others satisfied with standard definition, an attractive price and solid performance."

Tom forgot to mention "And it provides people with the most kick@ss picture this side of a $9000 top-of-the-line 61" Plasma display."

(I think this is horrible bait-and-switch on Sony's part. How dare they dub this set an XBR - with a model number higher than the 960, thus implying an "upgrade" - when it doesn't have a Super Fine Pitch tube?!? )
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Correct.

I have the 34HS420 - and it has no cablecard, no QAM, no digital tuner of any kind.

This new 970 appears to be a hybrid, some weird combination of essentially the HS420 with a sprinkling of XS features (e.g. digital tuner, enhanced DRC, enhanced stretch mode, imput memory). I suspect the enhancements are all coded and that there's probably no new hardware except the tuners.

I will be watching this new set very closely. If the set actually ships with the advertised features I will be interested in researching whether or not they are features already existing in the HS420 line but not advertised. There's much about the entire Wega line that's similar and common.

I believe we've already heard that some have discovered features on the XS model that we believed to only be on the XBR line - I believe this was discovered when using a Harmony Remote?

Bottom LIne - this is an enhanced HS420 with no SFP tube.

Can I ask you how you like your HS420? I bought one 2 days ago and, while I'm happy with the purchase, getting the opinion of others is usually a good thing.

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According to the February dealer price sheet the XS series is discontinued with the last shipment of products occuring in March. There is no mention of the XBR960N being discontinued.
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Sony's number one bullet point for the 960 is this: 16:9 Super Fine Pitch CRT

Sony's number one bullet point for the 970 is this: FD Trinitron® Picture Tube
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According to the February dealer price sheet the XS series is discontinued with the last shipment of products occuring in March. There is no mention of the XBR960N being discontinued.

the HS420s are already gone from Sonystyle.com, but the XS remain
this maybe a good sign they will be around for another 6 months or year hopefully
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the HS420s are already gone from Sonystyle.com, but the XS remain
this maybe a good sign they will be around for another 6 months or year hopefully

Technically they can't list anything after 3/1 that doesn't have a tuner. I'm sure there's still plenty of tunerless sets in the pipeline.
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Sony's number one bullet point for the 360 is this: 16:9 Super Fine Pitch CRT

Sony's number one bullet point for the 370 is this: FD Trinitron® Picture Tube

What's a 360? I just checked sonystyle and could not find one, is this a new model?

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Just for your convenience, a copy of the Sony KD-34XBR970 owner's manual can be viewed online at:

http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro...nersmanual.pdf

Look on page 36. The display shows 1080"P", 16:9!


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Both the 970 and 960N specify FD Trinitron® Picture Tube. Where are folks seeing Super Fine Pitch CRT? By my observations of the specs, both these sets have the same CRT. The 960N boast some added features like picture in picture, Memory Stick slot, etc.
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From Sony website:
"The cutting edge just got sharper with Sony's new KD-34XBR960N 34" Super Fine Pitch XBR Television. Featuring a 16:9 Super Fine Pitch CRT, Hi-Scan 1080i display, and Digital Reality Creation MultiFunction V1 circuitry, the KD-34XBR960N brings you a true cinema aspect ratio picture that is brighter, sharper and more vivid than ever before."
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Both the 970 and 960N specify FD Trinitron® Picture Tube. Where are folks seeing Super Fine Pitch CRT? By my observations of the specs, both these sets have the same CRT. The 960N boast some added features like picture in picture, Memory Stick slot, etc.

well you're wrong, the two TVs use different tubes
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well you're wrong, the two TVs use different tubes

Exactly.

I wonder how many times we're going to go in the same circles in some of these threads?

The 970 does NOT have a Super Fine Pitch tube ! The 960 DOES! The 960 is a superior TV! End of story.

The 970 is a rebaged HS420 with a new coat of paint. That's all there is to it.

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Don't worry about it. Your very first post exposes such poor details observation skills, that a Super Fine Pitch would be wasted on you.


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Hey Guys
I ran across a few archive articles about the SFP tube. The first SFP TV in the US was the 34XBR910 with 1400 horizontal vice 34XBR800 which was the last of the XBR's Non-SFP had only 847 lines as per test patterns. This was a major selling point as nothing at the time could produce more lines. True technology has changed, but there are no more R&D bucks spent on tubes unless they are for studios use or the "Qualia 015' in Japan. The SFP was developed in 2000 in Japan in the 36DZ900 model. Once the technology was made you tweak it as required, 30 inch TV's require a digital tuner so you put an engineer infront of a monitor with CAD and he makes a space for the tuner and Cable Card. Bet you the same modules or a version are used in all sony TV's. Voila you have the 34XBR960 with minimal costs incurred. Two weeks ago I picked up 2 34XBR960N's on sale for 1199 for the superbowl, he honored my sale since I put money down on them. At the time I looked frantically for the 960N from an authorized seller. Two merchants mentioned they were receiving new 960N's in which told me Sony had tubes left over from Rancho that were in the pipeline. There is still a need for tubes, but not at 1900 bucks since the average consumer would get "something pretty to hang on the wall' for less. The XBR nametag still means something so they could still sell an XBR at 1200 or so, but not the SFP so it was decided to scrap it. They must have liquidated the last series of runs for the 960's so the retaillers who could move them had nice margins to play with.

Thank You
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Don't worry about it. Your very first post exposes such poor details observation skills, that a Super Fine Pitch would be wasted on you.

That's not a good way to get out of the gate, is it. Kind of like raising your hand in class to answer that very first question to try to impress, and you completely bomb the answer. Ouch.
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waltchan asking someone else for proof? That's kind of like Madonna asking someone if they've been checked for STDs, isn't it?


Pretty much.

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Look on page 36. The display shows 1080"P", 16:9!


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I didn't even know the Family Channel had HD much less 1080P!
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Long time lurker - finally registered. I'm trying to decide between a floor model 960n ($1400 w/ full warrenty) a new 970, ($1200) or the 36" 955 4:3 model, also a floor model w/full warrenty for $1200 with stand. Even though the 36" is 4:3, it still looks good in 16:9 and the different formats allow you to zoom to full screen pretty nicely. Someone help me out here with some good logic. Also, besides no SFP for the 970, there is also no PIP or Memory Stick. Thanks in advance.
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Hey Guys
I ran across a few archive articles about the SFP tube. The first SFP TV in the US was the 34XBR910 with 1400 horizontal vice 34XBR800 which was the last of the XBR's Non-SFP had only 847 lines as per test patterns. This was a major selling point as nothing at the time could produce more lines. True technology has changed, but there are no more R&D bucks spent on tubes unless they are for studios use or the "Qualia 015' in Japan. The SFP was developed in 2000 in Japan in the 36DZ900 model. Once the technology was made you tweak it as required, 30 inch TV's require a digital tuner so you put an engineer infront of a monitor with CAD and he makes a space for the tuner and Cable Card. Bet you the same modules or a version are used in all sony TV's. Voila you have the 34XBR960 with minimal costs incurred. Two weeks ago I picked up 2 34XBR960N's on sale for xxxx for the superbowl, he honored my sale since I put money down on them. At the time I looked frantically for the 960N from an authorized seller. Two merchants mentioned they were receiving new 960N's in which told me Sony had tubes left over from Rancho that were in the pipeline. There is still a need for tubes, but not at 1900 bucks since the average consumer would get "something pretty to hang on the wall' for less. The XBR nametag still means something so they could still sell an XBR at 1200 or so, but not the SFP so it was decided to scrap it. They must have liquidated the last series of runs for the 960's so the retaillers who could move them had nice margins to play with.

Thank You

The standard dealer cost for the 960 as of last week was the same as it was 6 months ago. It's possible Sony made some deals with certain dealers, but I doubt it.
Sony is notorioulsy bad about keeping their dealers up to date. So Sony' first (and so far only) communique to independent dealers about the 970 simply listed the model number, price and estimated ship date. A dealers first reaction- assuming the 970 was a direct replacement for the 960- would prompt them to unload the 960s before the 970 came out. In light of the facts, I would expect the "great sell off" to stop.
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That better not be a street price. Observe the rules. MSRP only.
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I am buying a new tv and need advice, in basic English. You would all laugh at my current tv so this is a huge upgrade for me.

Should I get the BR960 or the BR970? Again, just the basics because I don't know, or want to know, all of the details.

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Should I get the BR960 or the BR970? Again, just the basics because I don't know, or want to know, all of the details.

No contest. Get the XBR960 while you still can. It's better because it has 65% more detail than the 970.
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XBR960 is far superior to the XBR970
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I heard Walter Chan is the man in charge of R&D on these TVs, is this true? or just speculation?

I just thought it would be cool, if the product designer was the one that started this thread!!!!


one thing though, I heard he was gay, so he is very sensitive, becareful what you say


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