The OFFICIAL Sony KD-34XBR970 34" HDTV Thread... - Page 4 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #91 of 3295 Old 03-06-2006, 01:09 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:


Most people wanting my picture want it with a target in the center

you are correct, I do not want a picture that badly, but maybe a deletion of this thread would not be bad
kny3twalker is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #92 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 04:39 AM
Member
 
joebxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
There have been several falsehoods claiming the 34XBR970 is the replacement for the 34XBR960(N). I think it is clear by what is posted on Sony's website that actually it is a direct replacement for the 34HS420N as as been stated by several people.


QUOTED from SONY WEBSITE:

"34" Hi-Scan® FD Trinitron® WEGA® TV KV-34HS420N

HDTV monitor (tuner required for HD reception)
Widescreen 16:9 Aspect Ratio
Hi-Scan 1080i Display
DRC Digital Reality Creation Multi-Function Circuitry
CineMotion® Reverse 3-2 Pulldown technology

Discontinued. Upgrade to the digital XBR® model for the same price. "
joebxr is offline  
post #93 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 06:42 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Q of BanditZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: blurayoasis.com
Posts: 15,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by joebxr View Post

There have been several falsehoods claiming the 34XBR970 is the replacement for the 34XBR960(N). I think it is clear by what is posted on Sony's website that actually it is a direct replacement for the 34HS420N as as been stated by several people.


QUOTED from SONY WEBSITE:

"34" Hi-Scan® FD Trinitron® WEGA® TV KV-34HS420N

HDTV monitor (tuner required for HD reception)
Widescreen 16:9 Aspect Ratio
Hi-Scan 1080i Display
DRC Digital Reality Creation Multi-Function Circuitry
CineMotion® Reverse 3-2 Pulldown technology

Discontinued. Upgrade to the digital XBR® model for the same price. "


Thank you, Joe. It's always nice to read CONCRETE facts and information around here vs. wild guesses and speculations that at least one notorious individual insists on doing on a regular basis.

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
Q of BanditZ is offline  
post #94 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 09:37 AM
Member
 
joebxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I find it interesting that Sony has specifically "discontinued" the 420N, but there was no mention or indication of the XRB960N being dropped from the lineup, discontinued or replaced???? Could there be something in the works, or have they just chosen to abandon their flagship because of low cost competitors. Seems that they always were selling out of the 960 series, selling as many as they made....never a problem with leftover inventory. Wonder if they really have elected not to continue with a true SPF flagship or replacement.
joebxr is offline  
post #95 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 10:17 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Ratman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Collingswood, N.J.
Posts: 14,283
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Liked: 246
Probably cost cutting measures and the sunsetting of CRT production.
Ratman is offline  
post #96 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 07:48 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Artwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hoover, Alabama
Posts: 4,817
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked: 197
Sony is afraid that they'll sell less Flat panel LCD sets because the 34XBR960N makes them look pathetic!
Artwood is offline  
post #97 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 08:53 PM
Member
 
christophersj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Although the model number sounds like a demotion, I believe that this is the brand new replacement fro the 960. I'm finding it difficult to see it any other way.

The KD-34XS955N . Check it out at sonystyle(dot)com

Any opinions?

-Christopher Johnson
christophersj is offline  
post #98 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 08:57 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
its been around for nearly as long as the XBR960 and they both got the N added to their model number at the same time

but yeah its the new top of the line CRT, at least while Sony still makes them
kny3twalker is offline  
post #99 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 09:09 PM
Member
 
christophersj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Is there any reason to think that the KD-34XS955N has a tube of lesser quality than the 960 had? I am having trouble finding any differences other than the lack of a FireWire port.

-Christopher Johnson
christophersj is offline  
post #100 of 3295 Old 03-07-2006, 09:20 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
the XBR960/960N also has Twinview, and an adjustable(or Customizable DRC) and 2 year warranty

the tube is the same
kny3twalker is offline  
post #101 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 08:41 AM
Newbie
 
Koons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Having established that the 960 has a SFP, justifying presumably its higher cost over its 970 "descendant": what happens if something happens to the SFP on a 960? Can it be replaced these days?
Koons is offline  
post #102 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 09:24 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Q of BanditZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: blurayoasis.com
Posts: 15,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

Sony is afraid that they'll sell less Flat panel LCD sets because the 34XBR960N makes them look pathetic!

Truer words have rarely been written.

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
Q of BanditZ is offline  
post #103 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 01:32 PM
Member
 
paulnccu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 32
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
folks:
i have an xbr960...does anyone know if it is QAM capable (and is there anyone who can also tell me what QAM-capable is/does?) thanks...
paulnccu is offline  
post #104 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 01:47 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Q of BanditZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: blurayoasis.com
Posts: 15,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulnccu View Post

folks:
i have an xbr960...does anyone know if it is QAM capable (and is there anyone who can also tell me what QAM-capable is/does?) thanks...

Yes.

Plug your cable straight from the wall to the TV. Voila. SD and HD are yours.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrat...ude_modulation

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
Q of BanditZ is offline  
post #105 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Newbie
 
Koons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Plug your cable straight from the wall to the TV. Voila. SD and HD are yours.




Do you mean that there is no need for an HD box from the cable company?
Koons is offline  
post #106 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 02:07 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Q of BanditZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: blurayoasis.com
Posts: 15,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koons View Post

Do you mean that there is no need for an HD box from the cable company?

Correct, to a point.

You will probably get some, if not most of your networks in HD, and channels 2-78, but obviously if you want Premium material (HBO, Showtime, etc. etc ) you would still need the box or a cable card for that.

In my case, I get Fox, ABC, and CBS in HD right through the QAM tuner and the cable without any box or cable card. I'm also getting 2-78.

NBC is the straggler. I have no idea when I'm ever going to get that in HD...

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
Q of BanditZ is offline  
post #107 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 07:06 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
unencrypted QAM will only get you the locals most likely everything else is just analogue cable

if you do get other digital cable or HD channels, consider yourself lucky

otherwise you need a cable card or a HD box
kny3twalker is offline  
post #108 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 07:25 PM
Senior Member
 
theanimala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 315
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
There's been a lot of bashing of the XBR970 product to make it sound like crap, which I doubt that it will. I do agree that it is misleading to label the set an XBR set, especially when the previous model kills it. But they are asking a much smaller dollar amount, so it's not all bad.

Over two years ago when I bought my 34XBR910, I really debated between it and the non-XBR model. I mean, until then, the old XBR tube was the HS series tube. I remember seeing the first 34" XBR tube at The Wiz for $9,999 and being amazed at the picture quality. The 34HS410 is essentially the same set, just much less expensive. I couldn't believe that no matter how great that picture was, that Sony was able to come out with the SFP and increase the quality that much. I was really stuck, but when I bought my set I had a great deal on the XBR, and at that time it came with the matching stand for free (which I was going to purchase anyway), making the price only $150 more for the XBR. Natually I went for it.

I guess I'm just trying to say that the XBR970 isn't going to be garbage, just not as good as the XBR910/960. For what people are going to be paying for it, I'm sure that they will be getting their money's worth.
theanimala is offline  
post #109 of 3295 Old 03-08-2006, 08:12 PM
Member
 
lzzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
True, although this forum is littered with video perfectionist such as my self who are willing to pay a premium for the best possible picture. And who don't like settling for second best.
lzzy is offline  
post #110 of 3295 Old 03-09-2006, 12:08 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Artwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hoover, Alabama
Posts: 4,817
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked: 197
I don't think it's garbage--it's better than that--I would say that it is on the flea market junk for sale level!
Artwood is offline  
post #111 of 3295 Old 03-09-2006, 08:20 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Q of BanditZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: blurayoasis.com
Posts: 15,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

I don't think it's garbage--it's better than that--I would say that it is on the flea market junk for sale level!

Ouch! Harsh!

C'mon man, The HS420 is a solid TV. That's all this thing really is.

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
Q of BanditZ is offline  
post #112 of 3295 Old 03-09-2006, 11:29 AM
Senior Member
 
mapson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 329
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The main issue is Sony sticking XBR in the model. Drop that off and no one will complain or open yet another 970 thread. This 970 will be a nice tv. Not on the same level as the XBR or the XS but still fully loaded with a hd tuner, 34" 16:9 screen, Sony name. Very decent and can still potentially blow off any competitor within it's category.
mapson is offline  
post #113 of 3295 Old 03-09-2006, 02:12 PM
AVS Special Member
 
biker19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: McLean, VA
Posts: 3,696
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by mapson View Post

Very decent and can still potentially blow off any competitor within it's category.

There's no potential about it - no one else will be making a 34" tube anymore.
biker19 is online now  
post #114 of 3295 Old 03-09-2006, 05:06 PM
Advanced Member
 
jet757f's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: California
Posts: 753
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I am new to this site. I am way behind on the new HDTV technology since I have been very happy with my Sony XBR100 which I bought in 1995. Now it has broke and dont think it can be fixed.

I started looking for a new TV in the 32" size. After looking at plasma, lcd and tube I found that I like the 34xbr960 or 34xs960. I went to the Sony site and yes it is very confusing since the 34xbr970 does look like the logical replacement. After careful reading I realize that that it is actually a lesser model. Does not have the superfine crt.


BestBuy still has the 34xbr960 for sale at $200 off. I notice that the one on display has a lot of snow in the picture and not so clear. The salesman told me that is cause they are hooked up to coax cable instead of component cable. That makes no sense to me.

My question is if I just hook this TV up to a regular Cox cable box will I get a snowy unclear picture? Do I need to upgrade to HD cable on all my stations to get a clear picture?? If so what would be required??

I just wanted to find out before I jump into this........

Thansk in advance
jet757f is offline  
post #115 of 3295 Old 03-09-2006, 05:56 PM
 
kny3twalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Coppell, Texas
Posts: 4,261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
they split the signal so many times at best buy and using higher quality connections on the TV will make a difference for DVDs, digital cable/satellite, etc....

but analogue cable should be connected directly to the TV via coax

the picture should be fine, I have even been quite happy with analogue over the air when I am more than 5 feet from my KD-30XS955

but its not a source a use often, my analogue cable does look good though too, unless you start stretching or zooming the picture

my directv service seems to look much better when using widezoom, or zoom
kny3twalker is offline  
post #116 of 3295 Old 03-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Advanced Member
 
golferadam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Lake Jackson, TX
Posts: 531
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by jet757f View Post

I am new to this site. I am way behind on the new HDTV technology since I have been very happy with my Sony XBR100 which I bought in 1995. Now it has broke and dont think it can be fixed.

I started looking for a new TV in the 32" size. After looking at plasma, lcd and tube I found that I like the 34xbr960 or 34xs960. I went to the Sony site and yes it is very confusing since the 34xbr970 does look like the logical replacement. After careful reading I realize that that it is actually a lesser model. Does not have the superfine crt.


BestBuy still has the 34xbr960 for sale at $200 off. I notice that the one on display has a lot of snow in the picture and not so clear. The salesman told me that is cause they are hooked up to coax cable instead of component cable. That makes no sense to me.

My question is if I just hook this TV up to a regular Cox cable box will I get a snowy unclear picture? Do I need to upgrade to HD cable on all my stations to get a clear picture?? If so what would be required??

I just wanted to find out before I jump into this........

Thansk in advance


Your picture connecting from regular Cox cable box will probably be better on a tube (i.e. 34xbr960) than an LCD or plasma.
golferadam is offline  
post #117 of 3295 Old 03-13-2006, 03:14 PM
Newbie
 
SecretIons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have spoken to a Customer Service Representative at SONY, and have been informed that the 970 and 960(N) have the same exact tube...Super Fine Pitch...and that the differenced between the two are as follows: the 970 has 1)no cable card slot, 2)no i-link port, 3) no memory stick slot, 4)no twin tuner blah blah...and there was something that the 970 has that the 960 does not, but I can't remember...I'll post again, as I am about to call them again. Hopefully, I will speak with someone different this time, and they will either affirm or contradict what the last person told me...
SecretIons is offline  
post #118 of 3295 Old 03-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Senior Member
 
mapson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 329
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Here we go again. CS rep gave you misinformed info. Go to the website, all the models that have SFP show it in the description AND in the manual, the 970 does not have it in the descriptions or the manual. Look in the manual and check, I already did for the 955 and the 970. No SFP detailed in the 970, specifically addressed in the 955 manual. No matter what CS or any salesperson says, it' not on paper so it's doesn't count. No need asking CS, while they try to be helpful, 970 doesn't have SFP unless it slipped through completely in the manual and on the website.

It's not a bad tv, just inferior to the 955(N) and the 960(N) models.

Once we see this in person, it will end the debate once and for all.
mapson is offline  
post #119 of 3295 Old 03-13-2006, 04:41 PM
Newbie
 
SecretIons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Alright, KIDZ...Here it is...the ultimate comparison of the high end Sony 34" CRTs.

KD-34XBR960N - still Sony's top-of-the-line CRT, upgrade from the KD-34XBR960...the only difference being an anti-glare coating on the CRT itself...this the ONLY difference

KD-34XS955N - upgrade from the KD-34XS955...just as with the 960 and 960N, the ONLY difference between the 955 and 955N is the anti-glare coating...this is Sony's second best CRT. The differences between the 955 and 960 (besides the colors of the sets) ARE found in their features, but BOTH MODELS are equipped with Sony's Super Fine Pitch CRT. The 960 offers these features that the 955 does not: 1)multi-image driver (responsible for the twin view feature which enables you to watch two different programs in two different windows side by side simultaneously) 2)i-link port 3)DRC Palette, which enables the user to further adjust the picture quality balance between "real life" and "clarity" (this feature is found in the Advanced Video Features menu).

KD-34XBR970 - if you are looking for a Super Fine Pitch CRT, look elsewhere...the 970 is a serious downgrade from the 960. No cable card slot, no multi image driver, no i-link, no memory stick viewer, no scrolling index... and did I mention NO SUPER FINE PITCH CRT? In comparison with the 960 and 955, the number of features this tv doesn't have outnumbers the number of features that it does have. With the non-XBR XS955 out-powering this set, it makes me wonder what warranted the XBR label on the 970. Very peculiar.

NOTE: The only reason I listed the KD-34XBR970 is to clear up any misunderstandings about whether or not it is a replacement for the 960...IT'S NOT. As previously stated, the KD-34XS955 is far superior to the KD-34XBR970.

I hope this information helps someone out.

Dan
SecretIons is offline  
post #120 of 3295 Old 03-13-2006, 04:49 PM
Newbie
 
SecretIons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Sorry about that...wasn't trying to misinform, but I did call and speak with another rep, and she confirms what you said, as well as providing me with the exact differences between all three models, as you will see in my last post.

Dan
SecretIons is offline  
Reply Direct View (single tube) CRT Displays

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off