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rwest - does anyone except Epson use the D7 panels right now?
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I guess i'll go with the HC6000 if there is no horizontal lens shift.
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The D7 panels are used in the Epson 1080UB, and in the Sanyo Z2000 & AE 2000Panasonic projectors.
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i think they meant the 5500 offers the vert. stretch for use with anamorphic lens based cih.
not the zoom method, if thats what you're referring to.

Ahh, well yes it was. I suppose if you were planning to use an anamorphic lens then the vert stretch allows you to do so without a scaler (if I understand all this correctly)?

Personally I'm hoping I can set up something and just use zoom, so that puts this one further down on my list. Other than that, it seems like a pretty decent projector.
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Ahh, well yes it was. I suppose if you were planning to use an anamorphic lens then the vert stretch allows you to do so without a scaler (if I understand all this correctly)?

Personally I'm hoping I can set up something and just use zoom, so that puts this one further down on my list. Other than that, it seems like a pretty decent projector.

hometheaterbrothers.com offer an h.e. lens for around $600 or less, great quality. there's at least one thread on them here.
thats what i'll probably use, not sure about pj yet, tho. my current pj would need an external scaler plus lens.

some folks go the diy route for their lenses.

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Cool, thanks!
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Zombie (as you seem to be the only one who has one of the 5500's) did you have an opportunity to comment on or take pictures of the filter on your 5500?

It would be very interesting to see if it is the same as the 6000.

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Can the current owners of the HC5500 confirm that the throw calculation table in the Mitsu manual on page EN-12 is wrong? According to the table, it should be possible to get a 120" diagonal 16:9 image at 175-inch distance from the screen. However, the calculations posted in this thread previously suggest that the image I can throw from 175 inches ranges between 125 and 149 inches. So, I can't have a 120-inch image by placing the projector 175 inches away from the screen. Correct?

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Any more news on panels used. I got sent an email to projectorcentral asking about a review and they said they should get one in a few week for review. It is strange that they were released by any reviewer got one.
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My 5500 just came to my office and I cant wait to get home and try it out. I will post some pics tonight as soon as I finish watching Cloverfield! As far as the air filter goes it does come with a larger filter that can be swapped with the original one. It looks very similar to the one on the 6000, as it does stick out and is not flush with the side of the projector. The manual says to use this if you are placing the projector in a dusty area, but I will use it regardless, given my bad history of dust blobs.
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Can the current owners of the HC5500 confirm that the throw calculation table in the Mitsu manual on page EN-12 is wrong? According to the table, it should be possible to get a 120" diagonal 16:9 image at 175-inch distance from the screen. However, the calculations posted in this thread previously suggest that the image I can throw from 175 inches ranges between 125 and 149 inches. So, I can't have a 120-inch image by placing the projector 175 inches away from the screen. Correct?

if you'd like, I can test this for you over the next day or so and let you know my max / min screensize @ 175 inches from the screen (wall in my case for now)

I will also take a few photos of the filter as requested.


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The blacks on the hc5500 are so much better than they were on the 4900 and 5000, it's extremely noticeable. The auto iris can now be set from 1-5. I have it set to 3 and can barely see it working. On the previous models the auto iris would constantly distract me from the movie. They also added the option to fine tune your auto focus and zoom, which helps get a crisper picture. I have to say so far I am very satisfied with my purchase. Here are some pics I took with my camera....nothing special, but you should get the gist....



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Sweet, I like the beefed up air filter. That should help prevent dust blobs. The Auto Iris was another big concern, so I'm glad to hear that it is smooth. Are those images from a BluRay, HD source, or other? Looks outstanding!

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Looking very good so far, I might have to pull the trigger. What size/typescreen are you using?

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if you'd like, I can test this for you over the next day or so and let you know my max / min screensize @ 175 inches from the screen (wall in my case for now)

I will also take a few photos of the filter as requested.

That would help me a lot! I am replacing Mitsu HC3000 and am kind of stuck with the 120" screen and 175-inch distance from it.

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edit-this post is more a bump than anything else.

what! these things working so well no ones gotta bitch about'em?
no issues, dust blobs, misconvergences, etc.?

thats good!

10' from 84" screen.


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what! these things working so well no ones gotta bitch about'em?
no issues, dust blobs, misconvergences, etc.?

thats good!

Actually as soon as I found out about the 1.2:1 zoom, I dropped it from consideration. If I do settle for such a short zoom range (and that is a big if), I may as well go for the W5000 given its recent price drop.
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what! these things working so well no ones gotta bitch about'em?
no issues, dust blobs, misconvergences, etc.?

thats good!

It normally takes two to three months after release before the "issues" start showing up........ before that is the honeymoon.

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It normally takes two to three months after release before the "issues" start showing up........ before that is the honeymoon.

2 to 3 mos might be the norm but a few of the more recent lcds had been acting up almost 'out of the box'. ie, ae2k, ax100/200, mits 4900, others. i'm going by the related threads. maybe they're just the normal # of issues for new pjs.

i'm glad the 5500 is working out well for folks.

fwiw, my questioning post (#198) was more of a 'bump' than anything.

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There are also only two people in this thread that even have one. That's a pretty limited sample size to start determining what issues may or may not be present.
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FYI, I just saw that these are now available from PP as well. That should get a few more out on the street for review.
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Not to say that there couldn't be problems with this projector but this is hardly a new platform. It is just another offering based on the familiar HC4900, HC5000, and HC6000. As such I would not expect there to be major issues with the HC5500.
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Projector Central announced that they will review the 5500 withing the next 10 days. They are working on the review at this time. It will be interesting to compare this proj. to the Epson 1080UB. I hope we find out what panels are being used.
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FYI, I just saw that these are now available from PP as well. That should get a few more out on the street for review.

yeah, and selling at MSRP--which will not attract a lot of buyers, unfortunately. Once Mitsubishi starts to discount this model the way they have the 4900 in the past, it will sell like hot cakes (or so I would predict).
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yeah, and selling at MSRP--which will not attract a lot of buyers, unfortunately. Once Mitsubishi starts to discount this model the way they have the 4900 in the past, it will sell like hot cakes (or so I would predict).

IF they discount it like the 4900. Also, like most places, you don't pay MSRP from PP or any of the other forum sponsors - I'm sure they will be competitive. Lastly, while I hope they discount it like the 4900, I'm not so sure they will. Seems to me they may they may have been trying to reset their pricing structure with the initial discounts on the 4900 to make way for the 5500 as their mid-range.
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speaking of prospective prices (not deals) and given what it is actually going for, and given what is supposed to roll out on Sept 1, I'd say it's fair to look at this as a $2k (even) pj for the time being - depending upon the competition in the fall, and when it hits the market - we could be looking at a choice of lcd 1080p at 1.5k by november. Heck, we have two 1080p dlp going for around 2k now.
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Am I correct in seeing that for a 100 inch diag 16:9 screen celing mounted, the top of the screen cannot be lower than the center lens of the projector, as the lens shift of 25 inches for a 100 inch screen is about 1/2 the 49 inch screen height?

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pdf/..._spec_4280.pdf

page 12 of the manual for reference:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pdf/...anual_4280.pdf

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hello

i got the projector(hc5500) up and running now after having it for a week or so. i would like to know if anyone knows how to access the service menu so i could do a calibration on it.

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You know, the more I look at this PJ, the more I question what Mitsu's engineers and marketers were thinking. First, they have the 4900 out that is less than a year old and street's within a few hundred dollars of the new 5500. Now, I expect that the image on the 5500 is quite a bit better given the improved DI and contrast ratio. So, in effect, they are cannibalizing their 4900 sales unless there is a significant price change going into effect on the 4900 soon.

Second, they try to add a bunch of functionality to cater to anamorphic lens users, and market the projector in this way, but they screwed those folks over by changing the lens design! The throw ratio of the old lens is much more suited to add on lenses given the typical >=1.6 throw ratio recommendation to reduce pin cushion distortion. This can also lead to problems for external lens users given the recommendation of 14' to 17' for optimal focus.

I'm just not sure where Mitsubishi's head was at in all of this...
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Am I correct in seeing that for a 100 inch diag 16:9 screen celing mounted, the top of the screen cannot be lower than the center lens of the projector, as the lens shift of 25 inches for a 100 inch screen is about 1/2 the 49 inch screen height?

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pdf/..._spec_4280.pdf

page 12 of the manual for reference:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pdf/...anual_4280.pdf

You probably are correct--I am not fond of this--I mounted a HC5500 with the same mount and drop from ceiling as the HC4900 and it was too high-- right now the projector is approx the same height as the top of the screen (88") and the lens shift was not enough--I had to actually tilt the projector down a bit to make it work. It is probably a good choice for a shelf mount but then again with a limited zoom range that probably wouldn't work well either. On a positive note it definitely shows an improved picture over the HC4900.
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