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Mitsubishi is coming out with a super quite new 1080p projector the successor to the 4900.

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations....rs/HC5500.html

The manual is under resources along with spec PDF. (Resources for proj not resources on top of page) No information yet on which panel is being used.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/18/m...rgettable-one/

http://www.cepro.com/article/mitsubi..._aspect_ratio/
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That's exactly the kind of improvements I'm looking for. I have been exploring various PJ options, and there are always improvements that can be made. Since I can wait, I'm very curious what the new crop of PJs will offer in terms of higher light output, lower noise, better control of dust blobs, faster/quieter color wheels, etc.

The question is, is this new Mitsubishi 5500 just a quieter 4900, or are there other improvements? It doesn't seem to be any brighter, based on specs.

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It does seem to have the new LCD's. I would love to compare it to the Epson.
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Three things I care GREATLY about:

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designed to operate at just 19dB

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anamorphic lens support for both 2.35:1 and 16:9 aspect ratios

And, of course, the $2499 MSRP Time to finally put my Optoma HD70 (and its super loud fan) to rest.
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This looks like a solid deal. I am very happy with my 4900 and would jump on this PJ with a street price of $2K or less... HQV.. Yumm.
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I also like that it has the Silicon Optix HQV processor in it. Can't wait for first reviews and release date.
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2.35:1
HQV
and sticker price! THIS IS MINE!!!

Also can anyone confirm if it can accept a 1080/24p signal? The 4900 does not!!

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The 1080/24 is the big issue for me. I would expect that it would be we will have to wait until the full specifications come out.
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I don't know the source, but the link includes availability (June).

http://blog.svconline.com/briefingro...ous-consumers/

I know we need more full specs, but thoughts as to the difference b/t what is known about the 5500 and the currently released HC6000?
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I am wondering if they are lowering the price of the 6000 and calling it a new name.

It will be interesting to compare the specs. Most reviews found that the 6000 was priced higher than other projectors in its class. This could be the reason for this new projector. It will be interesting to see what the unit actually sells for.
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And, of course, the $2499 MSRP Time to finally put my Optoma HD70 (and its super loud fan) to rest.

Are you running your HD70 in AI or High Lamp mode? I can't hear mine in Eco Mode.
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I am wondering if they are lowering the price of the 6000 and calling it a new name.

It will be interesting to compare the specs. Most reviews found that the 6000 was priced higher than other projectors in its class. This could be the reason for this new projector. It will be interesting to see what the unit actually sells for.

IIRC the HC4900 and HC6000 have different outside casings.

I wonder how this will compare to the HC6000 in performance, as teh HC6000 even with the older c6fine panels is an amazing piece of kit.

It may even leapfrog the HC6000 is performance for a time and then they can introduce a HC6500 later at CEDIA with other improvements. But they don't kill HC6000 sales.

If it has the same performance of the HC6000 at less cost, even if its in a different case it would be a winner.

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Dang it. I just ordered a Z2000 and now this shows up.. It bet it will be in the same price class. It has better deinterlacer, will be brighter, maybe even go deeper and run a touch quieter.. kinda depressing for me

On the bright side, the Z2000 has a much longer warranty and since the 5500 is new, it may have bugs.. time will tell.

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I think the black levels will the main sore spot. I expect it won't touch the black levels of Epson or Panasonic 1080p. Win some, lose some.

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IMO the single biggest enhancement is the 2.35 anamorphic lens. It probably also implies an internal 1.85 and 2.35 scaler, which means we can instantaneously switch between 1.85 and 2.35 in a CIH setup. I hope that optical quality is not sacrified for this feature.
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Reon HQV sounds great, BUT it seems like a lot of people at AVS have found that

intense audio processing in AVR + intense video processing in display = intense lip sync problem.
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IMO the single biggest enhancement is the 2.35 anamorphic lens. It probably also implies an internal 1.85 and 2.35 scaler, which means we can instantaneously switch between 1.85 and 2.35 in a CIH setup. I hope that optical quality is not sacrified for this feature.

2nd link said '...lens support'. im taking that to mean just onboard processing/scaling for the vertical stretch needed for the 2.35x1 cih setup and not the actual lens.
i hope im wrong about the lens. that would be one h#ll of a deal as long as the quality is there!
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I'm just hoping this knocks the price down further on the 4900. I have no problem getting the oldie as my first projector if a good bargain is to be had.
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Reon HQV sounds great, BUT it seems like a lot of people at AVS have found that

intense audio processing in AVR + intense video processing in display = intense lip sync problem.

Solved by lossless audio from a Blu-ray source and no AVR processing. Or throttle back on the audio enhancements.

Used a Reon in my HD XA2 a lot and had no issues, but you need only one in the chain. The HC6000s Reon does magic with cable and sat standard def and upconverting DVDs.

I agree that some AVR processing can cause an issue.

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The HC4900 and HC6000 and now probably the HC5500 do share the same case.

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The one big difference between the HC4900 and the HC6000 was the real fast auto iris on the HC6000 that works like magic to improve the black levels and contrast.

If the HC5500 has the new auto iris it will be a super duper item.

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will this have a D6 or D7 panel?
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will this have a D6 or D7 panel?

Dunno

I have calls out to the Mitsubishi sales channel and should get a response within a couple business days at the latest.

It might be a pretty good assumption they would be the latest panels or more current than what is on the HC4900 and HC6000 at the moment.

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The one big difference between the HC4900 and the HC6000 was the real fast auto iris on the HC6000 that works like magic to improve the black levels and contrast.

If the HC5500 has the new auto iris it will be a super duper item.

It does!
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I have found mixed results regarding the use of the D6 or D7 panel. On a site from Japan It states they are using the latest panel. Other sites do not suggest this.

http://translate.google.com/translat...LJ:en%26sa%3DN


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Sounds like a promising unit , can't wait to see one .

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Reon HQV sounds great, BUT it seems like a lot of people at AVS have found that

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intense lip sync problem.

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Solved by lossless audio from a Blu-ray source and no AVR processing. Or throttle back on the audio enhancements.

Used a Reon in my HD XA2 a lot and had no issues, but you need only one in the chain. The HC6000s Reon does magic with cable and sat standard def and upconverting DVDs.

I agree that some AVR processing can cause an issue.

I had an XA2 for a while and liked the Reon. So do you have some experience with the HC6000 and lip sync when engaging the Reon?

It would seem for me that even minimal AVR processing (using player decoding sent over HDMI) might include LFE boost, bass management, DAC, and 5.1 to 7.1.
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It does!

So it basically a less expensive version with the same performance as the HC6000. Time marches on.

Neat.

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