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1800 lumens! $1999! Sounds good to me.

What do people think about this projector?

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/04...e-cinema-6100/
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Looks decent. Looks like a step down model from the TW5000 being released overseas...I wonder if it will be discounted to compete with Sanyo?
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Good. I want to be able to select from lower-price models. I wonder if it will have not-quite-as-good black levels as the Home Cinema 1080UB, or will they be even worse than the regular 1080?

I guess we'll have to wait until November for reviews.

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I really hope the black levels are there for this one. I also hope to compete with the Sanyo, they offer some sort of rebate at launch. Maybe $100 cash rebate and a free bulb...I highly doubt it, but it would be nice. If not, with the newer models coming, maybe the 1080UB will drop under 2k.
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The new case design looks better than the current gen, IMHO.
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So where is the Home Cinema UB model? I notice there are both Pro Cinema AND Pro Cinema UB models... Hopefully they are not moving back to the November/December schedule for the Pro Cinema UB with the HC UB following several months later--like they did with the original 1080's a couple years ago.
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looks like a business projector. but at least they hit the magic price point.
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By Epson's numbers, the current HC1080 is 12,000:1 and the HC1080UB is 50:000:1. The 6100 is in-between at 18,000:1.

The other two new Pro Epsons, the PC7100 and PC7500UB are 18,000:1 and 75,000:1 respectively.

I think last year Epson made a goof and let the cat out of the bag on the current HC1080UB. They denied it's existance on the show floor, but, it showed up in January. So, who knows. Maybe there will be a HC7500UB in the spring.

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By Epson's numbers, the current HC1080 is 12,000:1 and the HC1080UB is 50:000:1. The 6100 is in-between at 18,000:1.

The other two new Pro Epsons, the PC7100 and PC7500UB are 18,000:1 and 75,000:1 respectively.

I think last year Epson made a goof and let the cat out of the bag on the current HC1080UB. They denied it's existance on the show floor, but, it showed up in January. So, who knows. Maybe there will be a HC7500UB in the spring.

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It will apparently be the HC6500UB based on their numbering scheme, but I agree, the PC1080UB probably tanked pretty hard (compared to the prior year) with the much cheaper HC1080UB nearly day and date with it.
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looks like a business projector. but at least they hit the magic price point.

I agree, but I do like it better than the current design

It sounds like the Iris is quicker, or is this description the same as on the present 1080ub iris

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I hope people aren't planning to buy this over the current 1080UB. I think with the recent price drop the 1080UB is still a better buy.
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I hope people aren't planning to buy this over the current 1080UB. I think with the recent price drop the 1080UB is still a better buy.

Everything is pending a review for me. I am waiting for a review of the new Optoma 806 and this projector before I make any decisions. The Infocus X10 is now in the running too, as well as the new Sanyo 1080p. I want to spend less than 2k, I would prefer the 1080UB based on specs, but I don't want to spend the extra money.
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I wonder if this model will have Panasonic making the AX300 1080P?

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The new models are up on Epson America's Home Entertainment page. The blurb there seems to indicate that the iris is new, although it isn't mentioned as new in the press release or fact sheet.

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New High Speed Auto Iris can adjust light output at twice the speed (up to 120 times per second) – ideal for fast action movies, TV shows

BTW, The new models are MUCH larger than the current generation cases.

Dimensions – 17.7” x 15.4” x 5.7” (W x D x H)
Weight – 16 lbs.

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I wonder if this model will have Panasonic making the AX300 1080P?

That would be nice. But I still think we're a year or two away. The AX300 will likely retail for ~$1200, while the 6100 will probably go for at least 50% more (around $1800 or so.) Plus, I'm guessin the AX300 is just about ready for production at this point.
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Orta,

I think you were right on the money about the naming convention.

as I posted above, I think Epson goofed last year by sending out a press relase about the HC1080UB to a few sites instead of sending the press release for the PC1080UB. On the show floor, there was only the PC1080UB.

Just saw this post by AlanG in the the spendy forum. Look at the Epson display case in post#16.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14596045

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Does anyone know if this projector will use organic or inorganic panels?
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I believe all of the D6 and D7 panels are inorganic.

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Based on a comparison chart that I saw in another thread it looks to me like the 6100 will be using organic panels albeit the D7 generation.

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This should be in most Best Buys buy the end of the month. This and the entry level Sanyo will be the first 1080p models available in non-Magnolia BB's.
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I believe all of the D6 and D7 panels are inorganic.

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According to Ekkehart (Cine4Home), there are organic and inorganic versions of both D6 and D7 panels. Only the C2Fine panels are exclusively inorganic.

NOTE: Most of the D6 panels are organic, and most of the D7 panels are inorganic. But neither is exclusive. The development of inorganic LCD panels was started while the D6 panels were still in production.

If a manufacturer states that their panels are inorganic, they could be either D6's or D7s, and the contrast ratio might be the only clue (unless the manufacture is more specific). If they say they are using the C2Fine panels then the panels are D7 & inorganic only, if I remember Ekkehart's post correctly (I can't find his post right now).

PS -- If I'm guessing correctly, the 6100 will be the replacement for the 1080 and the 6500UB will replace the 1080UB models.

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Is there any word yet of what the price will be for the 6500UB? I thinking about jumping on the 1080ub since they are priced pretty nice, but if the new one is is around the same price or just a couple humdred more, than maybe I'll wait. I like the idea of having the better contrast ratio and it looks like it might have a better scaler
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> Looks like a step down model from the TW5000 being released overseas...

That looks like the TW3000/TW3800 released overseas. Good construction (air flow, noise), compared to the old chassis. Preview on a German web site: http://www.cine4home.de/news/TW3800/TW3800Preview.htm (see also: http://www.cine4home.de/news/TW5000/TW5000Preview.htm)
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My local Best Buy (in CO Springs) is taking pre-orders for this projector, with an expected delivery date of 10/26 (Sunday). They're selling it for the MSRP.
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Do you have a sku for that projector Ben?
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I can get it thur.
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Thanks, I'll check into it tomorrow also while I am at work.
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Do you have a sku for that projector Ben?

No, I didn't pre-order it. It wasn't on their main web site accessible to employees (nor is it on the similar site accessible via www), but when they scanned the bottom of the display model and went to their inventory site they saw it and saw that it was available for pre-order.
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Do you have a sku for that projector Ben?

sku 8981239
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Ok thanks a lot for the sku. I could not locate it today.
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