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I just received mine today, and turns out I got a 7150! Maybe yall with have the good fortune to be lucky enough to get the upgraded model as well!

I think we should alter the forum, or make a new one for those of us lucky enough to get the upgrade =). I'll post comments soon as I get it up and running!

Anyone have calibration settings?
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The first thing I noticed is that right out of the gate it has some pretty bad horizontal keystoning

Take a look at page 17 of the manual. See if the projection mode is correct. Page 29 tells you how to change it.
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Same situation here.....just made a shelf that looks good and I mount a small plant at either end of it tp blend in.(like a mantle, which are never very high up at all)
I personally would never want to move my PJ around that much....and then have to deal with re-zooming and focusing.

What do you do with your screen when not in use?
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Take a look at page 17 of the manual. See if the projection mode is correct. Page 29 tells you how to change it.

It is in the correct projection mode. If it wasn't the image would be upside down or backwards . In addition, I noticed my lens isn't straight compared to the body of the projector. See the attached picture. You can see that one one side, the lens is 2-3mm from the body, whereas on the other side the lens is only .5-1mm from the body.

Does anyone else have this horizontal keystoning, and does anyone else's lens look like this?
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I just got my projector and fired it up to play with it. The first thing I noticed is that right out of the gate it has some pretty bad horizontal keystoning. Is anyone else having that problem? I really hate the idea of having to mess with keystoning when my projector is facing the wall straight.

Of course, this is my first projector so I have no idea if this is common or if I have a broken projector.

If it is your first PJ set-up, how can you be sure your dead straight on and it is the PJ?
I have seen laser leveled set-ups be not straight and cause issues.....it isn't quick and simple to get right.

If you are 100% positive the 'lens' is 100% straight on, how much keystoning are we talking about and how big of an image and at what throw distance?
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It is in the correct projection mode. If it wasn't the image would be upside down or backwards . In addition, I noticed my lens isn't straight compared to the body of the projector. See the attached picture. You can see that one one side, the lens is 2-3mm from the body, whereas on the other side the lens is only .5-1mm from the body.

Does anyone else have this horizontal keystoning, and does anyone else's lens look like this?

That does not look good...how about an image picture (screen shot)?

Does the focus and zoom rings move freely?
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That does not look good...how about an image picture (screen shot)?

Does the focus and zoom rings move freely?

The focus ring moves freely, the zoom ring is very hard to move. I'm measuring the keystone right now.
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I personally would never want to move my PJ around that much....and then have to deal with re-zooming and focusing.

Yeah, it is a P.I.T.A., but you get good at setting it up after a while. It has served me well so far, but a more elegant, permanent solution would be nice.

I have a pull down retroreflective screen mounted on one wall. Actually its over top the entrance to the foyer. Setting up for a movie also involves moving a speaker. It's not the best setup, but it is still pretty good and I'm unwilling to give up the music room to home theater; so that's my tradeoff i guess.

Maybe I could put a little table or something right behind the couch to mount the pj on. I'd kill any plants though .
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, the zoom ring is very hard to move.

Double not good.
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If it is your first PJ set-up, how can you be sure your dead straight on and it is the PJ?
I have seen laser leveled set-ups be not straight and cause issues.....it isn't quick and simple to get right.

If you are 100% positive the 'lens' is 100% straight on, how much keystoning are we talking about and how big of an image and at what throw distance?

Well, that's a good point . Let me go get my laser level.
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My lens looks just like yours palsor. Both my rings are easy to move and adjust. I'm not sure what keystoning is but my picture is not level horizontally, I'll post pictures in a few min.
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This PJ has horizontal lens shift, maybe it is just shifted all the way to one side. See if you can shift it sideways at all.
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And this is probably obvious, but center the lens not the PJ.
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Hopefully, the screen caps will be coming soon.
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I can take some friday after I get mine and do some rough preliminary calibrations.
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In addition, I noticed my lens isn't straight compared to the body of the projector. See the attached picture. You can see that one one side, the lens is 2-3mm from the body, whereas on the other side the lens is only .5-1mm from the body.

Does anyone else have this horizontal keystoning, and does anyone else's lens look like this?

The lens does not come out of the center of the projector, it is offset to the left side. Coupled with the fact that the front of the projector's housing is slightly convex it makes one end of the lens look longer and one closer to the housing, but it still points straight.

The zoom ring has some resistance minor resistance to it and isn't weighted like the adjustment knobs. But it shouldn't be hard to turn. It feels like zooming an SLR camera lens.
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The lens does not come out of the center of the projector, it is offset to the left side. Coupled with the fact that the front of the projector's housing is slightly convex it makes one end of the lens look longer and one closer to the housing, but it still points straight.

Well that explains the image then.

New excited owners will have to calm down and get things lined up correctly so they can start the fun of watching!
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Ok, well after playing with my laser level for a bit, it looks like this.

No keystoning: Angle the projector so my laser level line goes through the center of the screen, through the center of the lens, and through the center of the rear of the projector.

Keystoning: Angle the projector so the laser line goes through the center of the screen, through the center of the lens, and then straight down the projector (thus ending up a little off center on the projector because the lens is off center).

So, it appears that to get a clean image, I need to have my projector angled ever so slightly to the screen, though the angle causes the laser line to go through the dead center of the rear of the projector. I suppose if the optics are in the center of the rear of the projector, that explains why the lens doesn't come straight out of the projector, and why I have to have it angled. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why would they put the lens off-center the optics on-center, and then angle the lens?

Again, I'm a newbie here, so tell me if I'm making some fundamental mistake here .
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lens shift? What happens when you shift it? (horizontal in your case)

Keystoning is a smaller (narrower) image at the top or bottom of the image.

If your zoom does not move easily your PJ is FUBAR - I'd get in touch with planar.
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Is the 7150 much different? It seems to get a slightly higher contrast number, probably due to the higher lumens. Otherwise...are they identical?
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Is the 7150 much different? It seems to get a slightly higher contrast number, probably due to the higher lumens. Otherwise...are they identical?

Has the same housing, but has higher lumens and contrast and a larger DLP chip. But that also comes with less lens shift because it shares the same optics as the 7130.

It took me a second to find where it even said 7150 on mine.
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the larger chip is better then?
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They appear to be the same except for the Dc3

The different (larger on the 7150) chip reflects more light.
The optical path has less available movement due to the larger chip, hence the smaller shift for the 7150.

This is 100% speculation.
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the larger chip is better then?

WE NEED A SHOOTOUT! Anyone near Cape Cod?
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If your zoom does not move easily your PJ is FUBAR - I'd get in touch with planar.

Well I'll give a thumbs up to Planar customer support, they're sending me a new one after only a little discussion on the phone.
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+1 for planar customer service, i had issues with my first plasma (first generation) and they sent someone within two days to fix it.
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Well I'll give a thumbs up to Planar customer support, they're sending me a new one after only a little discussion on the phone.

Probably because they typically sell through custom install places. Planar might loose some of the Kudos in the coming weeks - considering the average person on WOOT's mentality! (non-AVSers of course!)

I'm going to call them now and ask why the lumens are so low and the aspect ratio doesn't match my business PJ.
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I'm going to call them now and ask why the lumens are so low and the aspect ratio doesn't match my business PJ.


LMAO. Talking to some of those people on the Woot.com messgaeboard hurt my brain.

"I paid $399 for my 3,000 lumen business projector at Costco and it throws a better image than the RS1 ever could"

^Overly exaggerated, but close.
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Mine arrived today. It's HUGE...dwarfs the X1 I have.

Anyone else have obvious evidence that their PJ has been opened up before? I have 2-3 "Do Not Open Case" stickers over one of the screwholes on the bottom. The 2 underneath have obviously had a screwdriver poked through them...

I thought this was advertised as a NEW product?
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for those of you that have received yours... how long is the component cable that comes with it?
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