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Dave Mack -- At least they aren't charging MSRP (= $3499). They are closer to the MAP, which we are not supposed to post here. But it's still too high a price (given the online prices of it's competition , like the PT-AE3000).

If I can't negotiate a lower price, I may either just go with the HC5500, the AE3000, or wait until Mitsubishi decides to drop it's online sales restriction (in that order). My current 720p PJ can't do justice to my new BD player and BD discs, so I'm getting impatient.

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I have a 120in Stewart Firehawk. Does this projector have enough horsepower for this size screen. I have a completely light controlled viewing environment. I prefer a bright picture. I'm currently using the Mits HD1000 and I want to upgrade to 1080P.

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Art uses a 128" Firehawk in his personal HT room, and had no problem using it (http://www.projectorreviews.com/mits...nce.php#screen). He prefers a bright picture too. He did say that he zoomed the picture to a smaller size for watching sports programs over TV (which he likes really bright with some ambient light. Read his entire review for all the details.

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I have a 120in Stewart Firehawk. Does this projector have enough horsepower for this size screen. I have a completely light controlled viewing environment. I prefer a bright picture. I'm currently using the Mits HD1000 and I want to upgrade to 1080P.

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I've been looking for a replacement for my HD1000 as well. From reading Art's review (that CT_Wiebe linked to), it hit 663 lumens with calibration. I would guess this is close enough to the HD1000 for it to work as a good replacement. The high lamp setting on the 6500 would at least match the HD1000 in low lamp.

Keep in mind though, those lumen measurements are almost always done with the zoom at it's widest aperature (with the projector as close to the screen as possible). If you mount the projector at the other extreme (as far away from the screen as possible), then you will see significantly less light output. Art didn't measure this, so we don't know the exact number, but it will likely be quite a bit less.

The 6500 only has a 1.6x zoom, so it won't be as much of a loss as the projectors with 2x zoom, nevertheless if you want to get close to the HD1000, you'll definitely want to mount the 6500 as close as possible to the screen.
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According to Art from Projector Review they came up with these numbers. I have not tried them yet.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/mits...6500/index.php

Contrast= -2
Brightness= 3
Gamma= Auto
Color Temp= Medium
Lamp Mode= Standard (unless noted otherwise)
Iris= Off
Color=0
Tint=0
Contrast
Red= -1
Green= -6
Blue= -11
Brightness
Red= -4
Green= 6
Blue= -1
Gamma was manually set to:
(All - as in same for R, G, and B)
High= -3
Medium = -3
Low = -7

Isn't it a bit weird that he turned the iris off?

Also, where do you find those red, green, blue options listed under Brightness and Contrast? I can't find that anywhere in the menus.
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anyone notice a burning smell when they turn it on and it runs for a few minutes? Is this normal, and if so, is it unhealthy?

Just the first couple times I smelled something. After that odorless. I figured it was normal for something brand new that was "plastic" to smell when it was superheated the first time. Call mitsu service center and ask about it.

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I did not notice any smell or odor like something was burning. For what it's worth I did notice a faint smell coming from the vents after more than a few hours of use. It's hard to describe the smell. The best way I can describe it is that is smells like the small emissions from the bulb breaking in, which I would think is common. But it has never smelled like something burning.
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Dave Mack -- At least they aren't charging MSRP (= $3499). They are closer to the MAP, which we are not supposed to post here.

They are online. Full MSRP.

I just realized that tax on this PJ would be over $200. eesh. Another reason to wait for a different model or if this gets released to internet vendors.
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Any word on this projector with motion lag?
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I watched a Bond chase scene last night. Also, Iron Man over the weekend. No lag time to my eyes. So far, this projector (30 Hrs) makes me very happy. It is my first one though, so others might see something I don't. It is bright (100" 16x9) and easy to use for a novice. I hope to callibrate it this weekend. Out of the box, it seems to be slightly "reddish" on some face shots. Closeups seem just a tiny bit off. Greg

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Isn't it a bit weird that he turned the iris off?

Also, where do you find those red, green, blue options listed under Brightness and Contrast? I can't find that anywhere in the menus.

For calibration, you have to turn the auto-iris off - otherwise you can't get a good calibration. Once you finish the calibration, you turn the auto-iris back on.

Those settings are under IMAGE => COLOR TEMP. => USER => REFERENCE. It's on about page 25 of your manual (at least that's where it is in the HC5500's manual) - in the "Menu Operation" table.
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It's not selling at list price now. You may want to check it out if you have a Bestbuy near you.

BB has it listed online at MSRP. Does Magnolia within BB negotiate or is it only sold at the listed price?
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I have to make a store run tomorrow, near my local BB, I guess I'll stop in and check. From what I've heard, they are still selling them for way too much money, compared to their direct competition.

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If you go to the mitsu elec. site, click on buy it now, find dealers, I contacted projectorusa in an email and was given a price of $xxxx in a response, that I then took to BB for a price match as projectorusa did not yet have them in stock. If they had though I would of bought from them. They are also a B&M store under a different name, so the warranty should apply.

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If anyone is interested in a brand new 6500 never opened from an authorized Mitsubishi dealer, I have one coming in on Monday. PM me for price.
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For those that purchased or are planning on purchasing an HC6500. I'm curious, with the current discounts on the HC5500 and what appears to be no discount on the HC6500 ($1500 difference), what pushed you into purchasing the more expensive HC6500? I'm not judging by any means but just trying to make an informed decision for myself and it would help to understand the thought processes others similarly went through.

The HC5500 would cause me to rethink my setup due to having to move the projector 36" closer to the screen. The HC6500 would only need to be move about 12" closer. That's a difference between having the projector just behind vs. being in front of me.

I'm asking a similar question in the HC5500 thread to see why they went that direction.
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For those that purchased or are planning on purchasing an HC6500. I'm curious, with the current discounts on the HC5500 and what appears to be no discount on the HC6500 ($1500 difference), what pushed you into purchasing the more expensive HC6500? I'm not judging by any means but just trying to make an informed decision for myself and it would help to understand the thought processes others similarly went through.

The HC5500 would cause me to rethink my setup due to having to move the projector 36" closer to the screen. The HC6500 would only need to be move about 12" closer. That's a difference between having the projector just behind vs. being in front of me.

I'm asking a similar question in the HC5500 thread to see why they went that direction.

I was already set to get the HC5500 but with my room layout, the Projector going to a 100" Screen would not work for me. I did not want the projector 2 feet in front of my sitting arrangement. Also I bought mine from a installer buddy for not much more than the HC5500. I couldn't be happier. The PQ on the HC6500 is truly amazing.

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I was already set to get the HC5500 but with my room layout, the Projector going to a 100" Screen would not work for me. I did not want the projector 2 feet in front of my sitting arrangement. Also I bought mine from a installer buddy for not much more than the HC5500. I couldn't be happier. The PQ on the HC6500 is truly amazing.

That's great you did not get hit with the cost difference. I'm having a similar issue with setup but just not sure how much more I want to pay to cover that one issue.
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That's great you did not get hit with the cost difference. I'm having a similar issue with setup but just not sure how much more I want to pay to cover that one issue.


Shoot me a pm, I can get you an HC6500 for around the same price as the 5500.
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I'm watching the World Series and now I know why I wanted this instead of the 5500. The detail in the picture is really nice. Shadows under their caps, lights glinting off of the umpire's black helmet, being able to see in the dugout's shadows. Way cool!

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For those interested in a 6500 at a great price, purchased in-person from an authorized dealer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230303297522
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For those interested in a 6500 at a great price, purchased in-person from an authorized dealer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230303297522

What about the warranty...how does that work? I already own the 6500, my installer friend handled the warranty registration...I didn't even see a warranty card in the box!

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What about the warranty...how does that work? I already own the 6500, my installer friend handled the warranty registration...I didn't even see a warranty card in the box!

Mitsubishi wraps the warranty information on the outside of the box, similar to a packing slip. You should have received a white envelope with everything in side of it for warranty registration. I will provide the receipt from the dealer as well.
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hey all, i just pulled the trigger on it. got it for a steal from the ebay seller above using my 10% off ebay coupon and $200 back from microsoft livesearch casback.

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=846962

When all is said and done, I will have paid just over $2200 for a new unit with warranty. Not too shabby.

will post impressions when i get it.
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Anyone have any mount suggestions? I bought a wall mount from "mout direct" for my hc3000 that I never used and don't know if it would work.

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hey all, i just pulled the trigger on it. got it for a steal from the ebay seller above using my 10% off ebay coupon and $200 back from microsoft livesearch casback.

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=846962

When all is said and done, I will have paid just over $2200 for a new unit with warranty. Not too shabby.

will post impressions when i get it.

Sweet deal Dave...You will not be disappointed! As far as a ceiling mount, I ended up getting a Chief RPAU I think that's the model...it's not cheap but it worked perfect. Looking forward to your review. I really love this projector!

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thanks, jwv. i would love to use the wallmount if I can as I rent and am wary to make holes in the ceiling. We have a hc3000 that is on a shelf in a cabinet projecting upwards but our baby is now a toddler and she keeps wanting to walk over and look into the light, (would NOT be good, I'm sure) so now I am looking to aim it from above. The lens shift is one of the selling points as I could shelf mount it.
Can't wait to see this puppy. I always love Mits and they have never let me down.

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I bought this pj a couple of weeks ago. Made a custom shelf and have it mounted up high on the back wall,

Hi Dan!

Can you by chance describe what you used, how you did it and maybe show some pix? thanks!
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Anyone have any mount suggestions? I bought a wall mount from "mout direct" for my hc3000 that I never used and don't know if it would work.

thx

I bought a Peerless PRG-UNV on the "Bay" from Buy.com. It mounts with 2 screws into the ceiling. It has tilt and other fine adjustment knobs. Look for it. It is universal fit, so in the future when you buy another projector, it will still work! Greg

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I finally I got my very 1st projector....the HC6500.....it's been a long time coming....now I'm inspired again to continue redesigning my basement dedicated theater....time to bring out the paint brush and rollers....and finally mount those movie posters that have been collecting dust and cobwebs all these years...hehe
I don't have a screen yet....just projecting on a wall right now, but the picture is still sweet!!!
Anybody got any suggestions on whether a white screen or gray screen is better for this projector? The dealer recommended that unless I'm planning on a Stewart Gray screen (which i can't afford), he said to go with a White screen for brightness instead....
I did notice some lamp smell for few hours.... i used to DJ....it's the same smell from all my lighting equipment (and they are all still working)....maybe its just the new lamp breaking in......
I used the old AVIA calibration disc....I bought the HD by JKP but it's too complicated to use....gotta spend some more time figuring out that bluray calibration disc.
BTW i got's mine for less than $2300 + free mount....free shipping....bought it last Tuesday afternoon...it arrived Thursday afternoon....pretty good deal!!!
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I have an optoma graywolf screen that I like for the better blacks. Also in a white room like I have it helps reduce ambient light spillage.
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I went with a white screen with 1.1 gain (Elite 100" fixed)...this was recommended from a installer buddy and a few others for price and performance. Blacks are very solid with this projector/screen combo. Bottom bars are really black...no gray bars here. Also colors really seem to pop with a white screen. So far I am really happy with this combo. Good luck!

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