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Hello,

First off I got my InFocus X9 today. Thanks to a suggestion from a AVS member. This is the first projector I've ever owned and I'm completely blown away!

I've watched many movies on projectors, at my friends growing up (they actually had the whole movie theater setup), at my dads (he owns 4 projectors) and I've never seen a picture this good.

I've been watching clips on the projector projected on a white wall in my bedroom. The picture is exactly 7 feet wide. It looks AMAZING! I'm a videographer so being able to watching my work on such a big screen is an amazing experience. I literally left the light on in the room and didn't even think to turn it off because the projector is so bright. I'm going to be using this projector this weekend to show off a Love Story and Same Day Edit at a wedding reception. I'm so excited!

Thank you AVS forums for your help! I'm sorry I can't give more feedback on the X9!

I will say the picture looks great to me out of the box. The menu is easy to use. The 15% keystone is more then enough. The skin tones look great and the image is crisp. Really no complaints yet!
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Jordan,

I just ordered an X9 to replace my aging X1, and should receive it by Thursday. Needless to say, I'm pretty excited! I will post my first impressions as soon as I've had a chance to put it through its paces.

Enjoy your X9!

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I'll be joining the x9 club tomorrow as well . Moving up from an old Viewsonic PJ501. My screen wont be in till next week though so I'll still be using the wall for a few more days.
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My X9 will be here Thursday. I am replacing my tried and true sp4805 after years of great service. Light tunnel issue showed up about a month ago so it is time. was saving my money for a panny AE3000U. but with the recent price drop and a tighter budget at home I went for the x9. I am hopeful, we shall see

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I have an infocus in 72 and am contemplating the upgrade
I would be more than content to have the in 72 with 720p capabilities
but i hear the black levels are lacking in this unit
if anyone has compared the 2 could you please post your judgment
I love the in 72 but it is getting long in the tooth and i would love to see hd
in 720p (i only get hd on satellite) and am not yet ready to buy blu ray
so if the colors are as good and it is hd i would be satisfied
thank you
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I have an infocus in 72 and am contemplating the upgrade
I would be more than content to have the in 72 with 720p capabilities
but i hear the black levels are lacking in this unit
if anyone has compared the 2 could you please post your judgment
I love the in 72 but it is getting long in the tooth and i would love to see hd
in 720p (i only get hd on satellite) and am not yet ready to buy blu ray
so if the colors are as good and it is hd i would be satisfied
thank you

Yes, I've read the black levels are on par or below par.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/infocus/X9/image.php
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has anyone seen both the infocus x9 and the in72
and what analysis do you have of both?
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Curious: What made you decide on the X9 over, say, an Optoma HD65 or a Mitsubishi HC1600?

Always remember: The pessimist is never disappointed.
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x9 is only $540 with cash back (dt-510 is a few hundred more unless you get a refurb) and has a 4x color wheel (HC1600 is 2x)
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My x9 came today and these are just my first impressions. Keep in mind that my only other projector experience is with my old PJ501 which is an ancient lcd but so far I am totally blown away by the PQ right out of the box. Since my screen isn't in till next week, I'm projecting onto a Heavily textured off white wall. The room I'm using is not light controlled at all, in fact Im projecting on a wall across from a 10' bay window, and while its very overcast today the projected image is extremely bright. The colors are great especially skin tones, contrast seems very good although I wont be able to report on black levels till after dark.

The fan is very quiet on eco mode which seems to have plenty enough gain, even for a daylight. The remote's a little cheesy and its so small it could easily get lost but other than that, so far so good! Blu-ray test tonight!
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Screenshots would be great if you have the time.

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Reasons to choose the X9;

-Lowest new in box price (when I purchased).
-Brightest output (good for when bulb ages/dims).
-Best warranty: 2 years parts and labor, 6 months on bulb.
-Long bulb life: 4000 hours in eco-mode, and a good reputation for getting there.
-Low bulb cost, about $250.
-Excellent out of box color accuracy and image sharpness.

To sum up, a great, economical HD projector to get me through until 1080p DLP drops to the $1k level (the X10's pre rebate price was just a little too rich for me at the moment, as I also am looking to get a bluray player and a new AVR to support HDMI switching and the newer audio codecs). I'm betting 1080p DLP will be commonly available at the $1k level within 12 months without the current need of aggressive rebates to get it there. At least I hope so!
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Could someone PM me with the name of the seller. Looking for a low cost 720p.

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x9 is only $540 with cash back (dt-510 is a few hundred more unless you get a refurb) and has a 4x color wheel (HC1600 is 2x)

No it's not actually. Tigerdirect ran out. I was considering biting when I had the money to

O well, factory refurbed HD65 with brand new bulbs are still selling for $630 on eBay. After cashback that's about the same price so I doubt I'll be disappointed.

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Screenshots would be great if you have the time.

Here you go:

First is a shot of the wall I'm projecting on showing the AVS forum page via my HTPC. I have 2 table lamps turned on and the x9 set to the lowest light level. You can see how textured the walls are here, so keep that in mind for the rest of the shots.



A couple of shots from Vicky Cristina Barcelona on BD:







And one dark bar scene from the new TLJ movie on DVD:



After watching 2 films tonight I remain extremely impressed, especially for the price
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Jimmy3d,

Your screenshots look fantastic! My X9 should arrive today, and I'm really looking forward to it!
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has anyone seen both the infocus x9 and the in72
and what analysis do you have of both?

http://www.projectorreviews.com/info...ompetitors.php

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Curious: What made you decide on the X9 over, say, an Optoma HD65 or a Mitsubishi HC1600?

http://www.projectorreviews.com/info...ompetitors.php

There ya go!

I can't believe Tiger Direct sold out... that sucks.. haha!
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got mine last week i am in the process of building my room so i do not have a good surface to test on but i could not pass up 500.00 price tag at compusa . i feeling better about my purchas now .
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x9 is only $540 with cash back (dt-510 is a few hundred more unless you get a refurb) and has a 4x color wheel (HC1600 is 2x)

woah! I was told the x9 was a x2 color wheel otherwise I would've bought it already! Are you positive it's x4?
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woah! I was told the x9 was a x2 color wheel otherwise I would've bought it already! Are you positive it's x4?

I'm skeptical about this as well. From just about everything I've read, including Art's review over on Projector Reviews, the X9 has a 2x color wheel. Were it not for that I probably would have jumped on the Tiger Direct deal.

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under specs on the infocus web page it lists it as a 6 segment color wheel.

got it, and mounted it last night. First impressions based on a few years using a infocus 4805: Its small darn near half the size of the 4805. The thow is different and had to move my ceiling mount about 3 feet forward, was able to keep it at the same height as my 4805. had to build a new face plate for my universal mount (not to hard). Remote is not much but will be setting up my harmony 880. was able to use my DIY screen with no adjustments (sanded and black framed drywall, painted, light Grey)

Picture: very,Very pleased. Its bright, and my wife can crochet with some light on when we watch a movie (used to drive me crazy, the 4805 needed a darker room). I was pleased with the way my 4805 handled hd tv. but the x9 upgrade to 720 is a big jump. color looks good out of the box. upscaled DVD's with my oppo look great. the biggest difference is shadow detail, 4805 struggled with darker movies, the X9 is big improvement. black levels, can only compare to my 4805 and a samsung plasma tv, not as good as the plasma, but better than the 4805, black level is not an issue, it's just good enough. dont have a bluray yet but watched king kong HDVD on my xbox, and was very impressed.

My x9 is mounted on a basement 8ft ceiling and is 11' 10" from the screen. the screen size is 94 inches, no keystone was required.

so far I am very pleased and if 3500 to 4000 hrs lamp live is true and lamps due cost 250.00 then i will stay pleased

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Nice review since I have almost the exact same setup. Still trying to sell my 4805 and using my DIY 105" screen. I think a light gray paint would work, but I may try to go on the whiter brighter side, and try to get some more gain. Please let us know if you come across any "rainbow effect" with the 2x color wheel. Maybe a nice action movie.

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Nice review since I have almost the exact same setup. Still trying to sell my 4805 and using my DIY 105" screen. I think a light gray paint would work, but I may try to go on the whiter brighter side, and try to get some more gain. Please let us know if you come across any "rainbow effect" with the 2x color wheel. Maybe a nice action movie.

I watched the hd dvd movie king kong last night and saw no rainbows. also watched the office and 30 rock HD and saw no rainbows. truth is in three years with my infocus 4805 i only noticed rainbows a few times, guess they dont bother me. I love action movies and will keep a eye out for rainbows

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Do you think the X9 would work with my room? I cannot find it in the PJ calculator.

Info about my basement room:
7' ceiling
15' feet long.
DIY painted screen is a sitting about 7 inches from the ceiling. It's now painted as a 105".
Walls are cement so a cannot nail into them.
Seats are at about 12' from the screen.
I hope I didn't leave anything out.

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Do you think the X9 would work with my room? I cannot find it in the PJ calculator.

Info about my basement room:
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15' feet long.
DIY painted screen is a sitting about 7 inches from the ceiling. It's now painted as a 105".
Walls are cement so a cannot nail into them.
Seats are at about 12' from the screen.
I hope I didn't leave anything out.

sounds like it should work, I have 8' ceiling and my screen is 8 1/2" down from the ceiling, my x9 is mounted just 3 1/2" off the ceiling and about 11'10" away from the screen. This gives me a 94 " screen. you might be able to move it a little further back to fill your screen(very limited zoom). You will also want to mount it as close to the ceiling as possible.

The more i watch it the better i like it, I also got a thumbs up from the wife without prompting

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Well add one to the X9 club. I just mounted and gave it my full test. Coming from a 4805 this is a step in the right direction. Of course I wanted 1080p but I think that will be at least a year away. I picked it up from ProjectorPeople from their demo models so I scored a decent deal. Unfortunately, they said the PJ is now discontinued. Might have to do with recent InFocus news.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index...s_a_buyer.html

Thanks everyone in this thread. It was the exact kind of PJ I was looking for. This thread and the review below provided comfort. I have no problem with the black levels. Wherever black level suffers, detail shows (IMO).

http://www.projectorreviews.com/infocus/X9/index.php

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the x9 is back on sale at tiger direct for 599.00 .
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Shhh, I was trying to keep that on the DL, until I get my tax return!

MY DILEMMA: New car or PJ? New car or PJ? New car or PJ?
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Thanks wickednebula, I missed out last time. I also have a few questions:

Does anyone know what size screws are needed to mount it? I've got a homemade Monkeyman-style mount, with M4s I believe for my 4805.

My 4805 has a HDMI-M1 cable and it looks like the X9 has no M1. What gauge HDMI should I get for a 30' run, 22 or 24?

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I bought the X9 today on Tigerdirect.ca for $699.99 (Canadian eh!) and it cost only $3.99 for shipping... I can't wait to get my PJ! I'm upgrading from a BenQ PB 6100, which has held out pretty good for five years...
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