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post #811 of 6389 Old 11-18-2009, 05:51 PM
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What is the advantage...two narrower blk bars vs one large one at top/bottom...? I would slightly adjust zoom on the old 4805 when format changed and just deal with it. Never bothered me. I personally like the whole picture look of 16:9 vs 'true' widescreen 2:40 or thereabouts. That's me. I know it's not as director/cameras captured the acting but then again lots of this stuff is personal tastes.

It makes an enormous difference if you mask off the area that projects the black bars. I do the opposite of fleaman and have the black bar on the bottom and drape masking material over it.

Example:


Here's a ****** picture of the result, but you get the idea:

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I see...nice. You use hd20, right?
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I see...nice. You use hd20, right?

No. I'm currently running a Mits HD1000U (screenshots). I'm a few months away from upgrading, so I'm in full research mode - checking the forums every 8 minutes, waiting for pro reviews, waiting on screenshots, telling my wife stuff she couldn't care less about......
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Haha Billbofet

I just went through the same scenario.

Now that I bought my first PJ, I actually feel less anxiety and excited and spend a little less time here. PJ is still on truck for delivery - . Mits HC6800

BTW for those of you insterested in seeing a video of the HC3800 in action - Art at Projector Reviews just posted a mini trailer of the HC3800 on You tube. Check in his blog. Its quite funny video - Cool to put a face to the name.
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Haha Billbofet

I just went through the same scenario.

Now that I bought my first PJ, I actually feel less anxiety and excited and spend a little less time here. PJ is still on truck for delivery - . Mits HC6800

BTW for those of you insterested in seeing a video of the HC3800 in action - Art at Projector Reviews just posted a mini trailer of the HC3800 on You tube. Check in his blog. Its quite funny video - Cool to put a face to the name.

IMO that video gives hardly any information, other than yeah a face to the name. The longer 7 minute video will come this Friday.
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Just so it's clear, the HC3800 has no true lens shift, but what it does have (and many projectors including my H31 Optoma have) is more correctly called 'image shift', because it shifts an image up/down within the 16:9 screen area (of the 16:9 image the HC3800 projects).

On my H31, when watching say a 2.40 image, I'll shift it down, to the bottom of my 16:9 screen area (but not beyond it). So in essence, instead of having black bars top/bottom, I just have one large black bar on top.

Thanks fleaman. I got it.
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Purchased Mits HC3800 and experienced the same shutdown problems that others have experienced, but ran last night for 8 hrs until shutdown (kept on until failure). Is it possible that some lamps are initially eratic with fluctuations that cause a shutdown mode? Projector is not hot.
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It is sounding more and more like a lamp issue. Has anyone had any luck with contacting Mitsubishi about this?

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Serial numbers may still provide a clue to the problem.

If Mitsubishi is reading this like future HC3800 customers are,
they must realize that they are loosing money.

Until there is a solution to the shutdown problem,
I am keeping my money in the bank.
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in a competitive market like this, companies must focus on quality assurance.
how can a problem like this be missed by Mitsubishi! i wonder.

i, just like the 80% majority, will wait awhile for a solution, but if not solved (soon). i think i'll go with epson or something else.
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I got mine today..my first projector...so far so good..going strong for over 2 hours...Just wish i knew how to work it...
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No. I'm currently running a Mits HD1000U (screenshots). I'm a few months away from upgrading, so I'm in full research mode - checking the forums every 8 minutes, waiting for pro reviews, waiting on screenshots, telling my wife stuff she couldn't care less about......

Dito...all except for the every 8 minutes thing...every 7 min...
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No problems after over 4 hours of play time..some movies and xbox 360 gaming...Wish i would have discovered high def projection sooner......Having the time of my life
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How is it for gaming? Any lag or slight blur?
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No problems after over 4 hours of play time..some movies and xbox 360 gaming...Wish i would have discovered high def projection sooner......Having the time of my life

We know you are...nothing but
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No problems after over 4 hours of play time..some movies and xbox 360 gaming...Wish i would have discovered high def projection sooner......Having the time of my life

And you have yet to view a true 1080p source on it .

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How is it for gaming? Any lag or slight blur?

Well coming from a 34 sony wega crt, no it's not better than that....But more smooth than my 42" lcd tv..So i would say it's great for gaming..
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Worked for 8 hours yesterday, but went into 2 hour shutdown mode again tonight plus another error where projector lights were green (no error mode) but no display on screen, although I could bring up the projector menu. I am sending it back for reimbursement and will wait till problems resolved before another purchase. Otherwise a real fine picture, equal to my BenQ W5000.
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Just got an HC3800 to replace my Sony HS10. It arrived tonight. The picture was bright and beautiful even in low power mode and the Dexter Blu Ray looked amazing. But then I too experienced random shutdowns. Two in my two hour viewing session on the projector. I love the projector but hope this issue gets solved. Will call Mitsubishi tomorrow and let them know.
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Bummer for you early 3800 owners. I have my eye/wallet on this thing. I'm sorry the probs are there but happy of the reporting. This really keeps us 'in the know' Thanks.

What do you think of the overall build quality? Does it look/feel cheap or substantial?
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The quality is great otherwise. Seems to be a well designed projector. Probably not for table top mounting if you sit right next to it as it does generate a good amount of heat but otherwise it's a steal. It has an anamorphic mode eliminating the need for an external scaler if you want to do 2.35:1 with a lens, which I hope is in my future. I'm sure the shutdown problems will be fixed soon. I seem to recall similar initial problems with the HS10 and it turned out to be a great projector. The picture simply blew me away when I turned it on. Like the best LCD or plasma sets only much bigger.
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Otherwise a real fine picture, equal to my BenQ W5000.

Can you elaborate a little more on this? How did the black levels compare?

And if the HC3800 really is an 'equal' to your W5000, why did you get it?
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My W5000 developed vertical banding display problems and is in process of getting repaired. I am working with MackCamera warranty, and the process is taking a "long" time. Thus, I purchased the HC3800 to have as a back up projector, noting the 2 year warranty. Unfortunately, I won't have a projector for a while because of the shut down problems.

The picture qualities of both projectors seem comparable, as do the black levels; brightness is good and noise level acceptable.
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Mits is sending me a replacement bulb. Hopefully, this will put an end to the shutdowns. I'll let you know if this resolves the problem.

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My W5000 developed vertical banding display problems and is in process of getting repaired. I am working with MackCamera warranty, and the process is taking a "long" time. Thus, I purchased the HC3800 to have as a back up projector, noting the 2 year warranty. Unfortunately, I won't have a projector for a while because of the shut down problems.

The picture qualities of both projectors seem comparable, as do the black levels; brightness is good and noise level acceptable.

So I guess those who were looking at the HC3800, but can't deal with the large offset, should look at the W5000 then

I was hoping the HC3800 would best it a little in black levels. Was thinking of using a high contrast grey 0.9 screen, so that might help a little.
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With the problems in my Hc3800 and BenQ W5000, and the money spent on shipping/insurance, I am beginning to appreciate the need for reliability. Purchase costs are one issue, but if firmware updates, lamp replacement, and repairs cause too many shipments, then the original sale price becomes mute. What projectors display a good picture and have proven to be reliable and stable? Perhaps many of us would like feedback here.
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ered, can you give a bit more details about the banding?

When is it happening?

Does it happen all the time or maybe just for the first x number of minutes when the PJ has been on?

Just curious

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Kind of hard to describe, but on the W5000 it appears that horizontal pixel segments shifted up and down in vertical bands on the right half of the display, appearing as bands, but not as dark lines, as the pixels displayed but were shifted. It appeared consistently for several days and was definitely in the projector. Similar problems are described in the W5000 thread, and at least one post said that the DMD had to be replaced...hope not as MackCamera will not be very happy.
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. What projectors display a good picture and have proven to be reliable and stable? Perhaps many of us would like feedback here.

Unfortunately you really don't know until after the fact.

My Optoma H31 has been reliable for 4 years, but I've only put about 700hrs on it (yet from the H31 thread, they all seemed reliable). Later Optoma's have been less reliable, some much less reliable. There were lamp issues with the H78dc3 (same era as my H31).

The Mits HC3000 has appeared to be reliable (for a projector that is).

BenQ's seemed to be reliable, but the W5000's appear to have more problems(?).

Bottom line: Past reliability with a brand doesn't guarantee future reliability with the same brand but newer model. And with a newer model, you either wait it out a 6-12 months while reading posts on AVS about it, then purchase. But by then there will be an even newer and better model out, and you're back to square one
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how loud is the fan on high mode for those that have heard it now, and if you have had pj's in the past compare it to them, specifically the HC3000 how do they compare on standard lamp mode?
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What about setting and calibrations for HC3800? Any tips?

I'm expecting to receive mine next wednesday, bought at the Big A. Just hope it's everything ok with my unit, since I live in Brazil and it will be a pain in the ass to return it.
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