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post #181 of 6368 Old 09-16-2009, 04:17 PM
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Just FYI, the Tigerdirect Bing cashback has gone down from 15% to 10% for all projectors...

Seems like 5% today, at least for the sharp from tiger.
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Based on the preliminary reviews at projector central and projector reviews I am really excited about this projector. Ill wait for the official reviews and price and probably pull the trigger on this one. I've noticed some people comparing this one to the Sharp. The one thing that bothers me about the sharp is (according to projector central) the price of the replacement bulb at $600. I have yet to replace any bulb in any of my projectors in the past but I know that they can fail prematurely and I have never purchased an extended warranty for any equipement. I am not sure of the sharp bulb warranty but I believe the Mits has 1 year /500 hours or something like that bulb warranty and is rated at 5000 hours in eco-mode. That is hard to beat.
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Yeah, the Sharp bulbs are really only $400 as far as street pricing goes. Heh, "only."

Still that isn't any more money that what I pay for bulbs on my VP4001. I'm strongly considering the XV-Z15000 myself and plan on getting the Mack projector and bulb combo warranty offered through Tapeworks Texas.

Just waiting for the unit to drop further in price (I hope). I think if it dropped to $1500 it would be extremely competitive.

The thing that worries me about the HC3800 is the total lack of an iris. I would have preferred at least a manual 2 step iris. According to Art the HC3800 has lesser black levels than the XV-Z15000. However the HC3800 would be a real steal if it ends up premiering at a price of $1000. I would take the Mitsu any day over the other $999 projectors.
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I almost decided on the HD20 but it looks like this one is definitively, atleast in my opinion worth the extra money. The worst part is waiting the extra time lol Any other options in the $1,000-$1,600 range?
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Not really. Unless you're willing to deal with some nasty banding issues on the Pro8100. Used you may be able to find some deals, but personally I like having a warranty.
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Look like most of those 8100 don't have any problems and do come with 3 years warranty for parts and labor (one of the best in its class).

I just sold my Optoma HD72 after 3.5 years of use and really missing my PJ. So the question is - which one to choose - 8100 vs HD20 vs Vivitec vs waiting for 3800 - probably at least for another month ((
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If you're really dead set on getting a projector right now I would go for the Pro8100. It's price is right and you can pray you don't get the vertical lines of doom.
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or get HD20 and have brighter, cheaper, newer pj that could potentially be upgradable to 3D )))
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According to Art the HC3800 has lesser black levels than the XV-Z15000. However the HC3800 would be a real steal if it ends up premiering at a price of $1000. I would take the Mitsu any day over the other $999 projectors.

Yes, but again, Art didn't compare them with the DI 'off' on the Sharp, so not really that fair IMO. Especially if you don't like DI projectors like myself.

I'll wait for the full review myself.
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Looks like this is the replacment for my ceiling mounted Mits 3000.

I see where "short throw" is mentioned will the HC3800 mount in about the same location ?

110 inch screen dedicated theater.

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Yes, but again, Art didn't compare them with the DI 'off' on the Sharp, so not really that fair IMO. Especially if you don't like DI projectors like myself.

I'll wait for the full review myself.

Yeah, that's one of my problems in a way. I've never actually seen DI in action and no dealers in my area carry the Sharp so I'm hesitant to pick it up. What I'd really prefer is a manual iris which the Sharp has in addition to the DI but it only goes down one step apparently. At least that's what I've gathered from the manual.
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Looks like this is the replacment for my ceiling mounted Mits 3000.

I see where "short throw" is mentioned will the HC3800 mount in about the same location ?

110 inch screen dedicated theater.

It should be the same. Since my HC3100 has a 1.81 Lens throw ratio while the HC3800 list a range from 1.52-2.26.

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It should be the same. Since my HC3100 has a 1.81 Lens throw ratio while the HC3800 list a range from 1.52-2.26.

The offset is a little less on the HC3800. So if ceiling mounted, you will either have to lower the PJ a little or raise your screen a little (or a little of both).
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And don't forget about the offset of the lens, 3800 is not centered.

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How does the noise spec compare to my HC3000 ? I always run in low setting. If same or less then I may be sold...pending a positive qualified review

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Eco-mode in the HC3000 is 26dB while the HC3800 is 25dB in eco-mode.

"What do you mean it's too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!"

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I know I sound like a broken record, but I would have already put in my order if this PJ had a manual iris. Its torture to think about, I would have paid more for it actually, several hundred more. This projector just seems to do everything so right, just the blacks may be lacking. The ND2 filter seems to dim the image too much.

I was thinking, maybe a gray screen could achieve excellent blacks, while maintaining its other attributes, it being a bright PJ in best mode. This might be a way around the lack of an Iris, but I've never owned a projector before so I'm speculating a bit.
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Looking like the 3800 is going to be the top contender for 'bang for the buck' this season. Getting more excited every day to see one in action .

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AVS said that they are not going to carry it - weird, something about too low of a margin for them. Projector people taking orders - it will probably be awhile before the we see a price drop. Should I just place an order?
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Just speculation here... I would bet pre-orders for this unit are going to back-log initial shipments for at least a month or two so if anybody wants one of these as soon as they are released I would suggest ordering sooner rather than later .

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where should I pre-order one from? can I use bing cashback while pre-ordering?
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I was hoping a review would come out soon as I was contemplating the HC3800 or INfocus X10. Now that the X10 stock is almost depleted I hope I made the right choice by waiting.
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tgferg67 -- Per Art's latest blog (see www.projectorreviews.com), he should have his HC3800 review posted next week (the same unit that was at CEDIA). He is working with it now.

In Art's Sept 6th, "First Look", blog (http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...look/#more-445), he stated that the HC3800 should ship ". . . in late October" (he could be optimistic, of course).

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DGP.... remind me again, how fast was the color wheel on the 4805? I've been on an LCD projector for a while and am daydreaming about DLP.
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I've preordered.

Though it probably won't match the image of my Sharp Z3000, my bulb is flickering rather badly, and late October should be just about right. I'll post a review here with pics when it arrives...

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Did you have to call for the preorder? I don't see it on any sites. What's the preorder price?
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http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...t&entry_id=286



The Mitsubishi HC3800, anticipated to retail for $1,495 upon release, has outstanding picture quality for the money. We set it up yesterday against the Optoma HD20, another high-profile 1080p model that is getting a lot of attention due to its aggressive price of $999. These are both DLP projectors with 4x speed, RGBRGB color wheels. So one might presume they'd have similar picture quality dynamics. They don't. When seen side by side the HC3800 has an evident advantage in image sharpness, color saturation, contrast, and three-dimensionality.



Came accross this. I have a Benq PE7700. The first year I owned it was nothing but problems. It has since been a very good PJ. I have the upgrade bug and was going to jump on the HD20. After reading this. Its the Mitsu for me. Time to pre-order.
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DGP.... remind me again, how fast was the color wheel on the 4805? I've been on an LCD projector for a while and am daydreaming about DLP.


4805? Infocus? 4x

same as my H31 Optoma.

I suspect the Mits will be the same - though I'd welcome 6x since I do see rainbows with my H31 still (4.5 yrs later).

One can "live with it" if you have to ;-/.
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