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Don't know the cause, but medium to long shots aren't as clear as close ups. Really, I'm not pulling any ones leg.

That has to be in the source material. Really... a pixel is a pixel. It may just be the effect of more pixels being used in a closeup. If you expect to see the same detail in a distant face as you see in a closeup face, that's not a realistic expectation. If you see eyelashes in a portrait, you aren't going to see them in a full body shot.
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When you see peoples faces closeup it looks really sharp but when its normal veiw it just looks lacking in sharpness to me.

I kinder wish I went DLP now
This is my second HD PJer. This one better than the last. They get better and cheaper...I'll ignore the lack of sharpness for another year and then upgrade...
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After remembering suggestions from a company tech and posts on another forum, I tried turning the components ON in this order :
PJ (wait) then receiver (wait) then Blu-ray player.

So far I've watched two long movies without a drop in signal. Is my problem fixed? I'll only know for sure after 500 hours. Hahaha
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After remembering suggestions from a company tech and posts on another forum, I tried turning the components ON in this order :
PJ (wait) then receiver (wait) then Blu-ray player.

So far I've watched two long movies without a drop in signal. Is my problem fixed? I'll only know for sure after 500 hours. Hahaha

I generally do that same sequence and it has always been fine!
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Are there any ways around color uniformity issues on this machine?

I have green and red tints at the sides of the screen that are distracting on lighter scenes.

I used to have an Hitachi TX100 several years ago that had hidden menu's allowing to eliminate this problem with a little time and effort.

Any such luck for the epson? Or maybe a pc program that allows control of colour uniformity?
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Are there any ways around color uniformity issues on this machine?

I have green and red tints at the sides of the screen that are distracting on lighter scenes.

I used to have an Hitachi TX100 several years ago that had hidden menu's allowing to eliminate this problem with a little time and effort.

Any such luck for the epson? Or maybe a pc program that allows control of colour uniformity?

It seems the days of LUT's for screen uniformity are over, or maybe they never existed at this price point. William Phelps made a real name for himself doing a great job with this sort of calibration. He name was even turned into a verb! If you had your projector "Phelpsed", that was really good.
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Are there any ways around color uniformity issues on this machine?

I have green and red tints at the sides of the screen that are distracting on lighter scenes.

I used to have an Hitachi TX100 several years ago that had hidden menu's allowing to eliminate this problem with a little time and effort.

Any such luck for the epson? Or maybe a pc program that allows control of colour uniformity?

I am actually thinking of getting a replacement because of red/pink tint on the left side that very annoying. Any white scene is all pink on the left half of my screen.
Worse with normal lamp. I think it's gotten worse or it bothers me more. Can't say which.
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Hey everyone. I'm pretty new to the world of projectors, and I was hoping someone could help me with this.

I just received a replacement 8500UB for different problem. With my replacement unit, I believe I may have a convergence problem. Could someone assess this picture and give me some advice? Bad enough to exchange it?

Thanks!
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Hey everyone. I'm pretty new to the world of projectors, and I was hoping someone could help me with this.

I just received a replacement 8500UB for different problem. With my replacement unit, I believe I may have a convergence problem. Could someone assess this picture and give me some advice? Bad enough to exchange it?

Thanks!
yes I would

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That convergence doesn't look too bad actually, to me anyways. Green is off a bit, but I don't know what the odds are of getting one that is all that much better.
just my 2cents
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Just got my new replacement - Now thinking of selling it.

I had one of the 8500UB's that had the red dancing lights. But it was fairly intermittent. I moved recently and the new house doesn't have a spot for a projector I know.. tragic.

So I finally got around to calling Epson, and wow, what customer service, they shipped me a new replacement unit in about 5 minutes on the phone.

So now I'm thinking of selling it. Anyone interested? (i'm in the bay area) Figure it's good as new from Epson.

What's it worth?

Definitely bummed I can't use it anymore.
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Hey everyone. I'm pretty new to the world of projectors, and I was hoping someone could help me with this.

I just received a replacement 8500UB for different problem. With my replacement unit, I believe I may have a convergence problem. Could someone assess this picture and give me some advice? Bad enough to exchange it?

Thanks!

If you can't see it from about half the distance from the screen to your seats, I wouldn't stress over it. So long as you're not seeing discoloration on the far left and right edges of the screen with a full-white pattern, this isn't an awful convergence.

"Never believe any quote you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln
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So 2 weeks ago when I left for a trip, it looked great. Got back a couple of days ago and the colors seems washed out and a little on the green side. I checked all of the settings and even tried adjusting them and I can't find any reason for the blah image. I used to drool over Avatar and now it looks just ok. I have 1052 hrs on the bulb. Does this perhaps mean that the bulb is going?
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Guys need some fast help, were is the serial number located on this projector ? . Its just that I need to register it and dont want to unmount it to find it.
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Guys need some fast help, were is the serial number located on this projector ? . Its just that I need to register it and dont want to unmount it to find it.

It should be on the back next to the power cord input.
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Serial number should also be on the plastic bag that the manual is in.
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Lamp explosion (CRAACK) at less than 500 hours using high altitude mode, ceiling mount in ECO, living room level. Chinese lamp.

Great customer support in replacing the lamp. Hope they get it fixed.
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Quick question for those that got warranty replacements. How do you know if your replacement is a refurb or a new unit?

I got mine replaced and it looks brand new with even the clear sticker on the IR port. Not a hairline scratch anywhere. But since I'm selling it, I want to let people know if it's "NEW" or a "refurb"

thanks!
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I got mine replaced and it looks brand new with even the clear sticker on the IR port. Not a hairline scratch anywhere.
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Is this the case with most replacements?
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The PJ looks great with movies - not good for football. My 42" Sony LCD is MUCH sharper when showing plays on the field. The background green turf does not appear sharp - picture almost looks like what I would get off a huge Mitsubishi tv. Is there some setting I can adjust - I tried most of the color modes and adjusting sharpness to no avail. Anyone else having clarity issues with football?
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A lot of sports are in 720p, so that won't be as sharp on 1080i or p as they will on a 720 set with 1:1 mapping. If that is the case, where is your conversion happening, in the converter, or the projector. I find I like the PQ on 720P soaps better if I let the Epson convert, rather than the TiVo driving it.

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I just painted my HT room to a rather dark brown, added drapes so it's totally light controlled, and acoustic panels for room treatment. The THX Eco mode looks fantastic. I think I'll leave it on this setting to maximise lamp life. I just received a replacement I bought to have as a backup just in case...
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A lot of sports are in 720p, so that won't be as sharp on 1080i or p as they will on a 720 set with 1:1 mapping. If that is the case, where is your conversion happening, in the converter, or the projector. I find I like the PQ on 720P soaps better if I let the Epson convert, rather than the TiVo driving it.

I'm watching football from FiOS HD box. Wouldn't the Epson be doing the conversion here automatically, or do I need to set something in the menu?
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Is this the case with most replacements?

Not at all, unfortunately. Epson's policy is that, if you purchased the projector within 30 days of needing a replacement, they send out a new one. If it's past 30 days, it's always a refurbished unit (unless you put up a significant fuss).

I had a dust blob about 28 days after I purchased the projector. I called and the support was fantastic. They mailed me a replacement projector the same day. Unfortunately, the replacement I received was a refurb-- hairline scratches on both the case and the lens (!).

I called back and put up a fuss (not being a jerk, obviously). They told me they had the policy stated above, and that I should have received a new projector, considering it was less than 30 days. They gladly sent out a new replacement, in the original retail box. Very happy.

But, if it's past 30 days, the chances of receiving a new one drop off significantly.
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I just painted my HT room to a rather dark brown, added drapes so it's totally light controlled, and acoustic panels for room treatment. The THX Eco mode looks fantastic. I think I'll leave it on this setting to maximise lamp life. I just received a replacement I bought to have as a backup just in case...
I did this as well and I added foam covered in black velvet to the ceiling. What an amazing difference!
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I'm watching football from FiOS HD box. Wouldn't the Epson be doing the conversion here automatically, or do I need to set something in the menu?
Most cable boxes or similar automatically output at the native rate of the HDMI display, and do not output other resolutions unless you elect it on a setup menu. Check the Users Guide on your Fios Box, and enable 720p output. I have found that enabling 480i or p does little good, as they double to 1024 with few artifacts, and channel switching is often slower when you ask the box to change resolutions. But 720p seems to be worth the delay -- peoples' skin seemed to always be vague when 1080 converted in the cable box.

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I did this as well and I added foam covered in black velvet to the ceiling. What an amazing difference!

I was wondering if you guys could post pics of your room setups. I have a completely light controlled room, and the light spillage is taking away from the beauty of this projector. I wish I had stumbled across the SI Black Diamond earlier, but I know it has its drawbacks also.

I see that the two main sources of reflection are the ceiling and the floor (both light colors). I'd like to see pics of setups that don't make the room look like a bat cave.

Perhaps there is a better forum for this questions, and I apologize if so.
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^mine looks like a cave now...
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Fact is this projector lacks in sharpness! and for me its a huge turn off really!

My advice would be to go DLP which I am thinking of doing or maybe the JVC 250
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I find it bad as well...I don't know why I never noticed it earlier than I did. But it bugs me. I want to find out more about the JVC's
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