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Can anyone recommend a mount model that will work with the 8500?
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I agree that you have a good shot with the 50' cable working. Some have reported that the Epson seems to work with longer cables than the Panasonic.
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I agree that you have a good shot with the 50' cable working. Some have reported that the Epson seems to work with longer cables than the Panasonic.


I recommended a 6500 to a friend and they used a 75 foot monoprice cable with no signal booster and it works just fine - blu-ray and HDTV.
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I'm prolly gonna order the 8500...

Edit: I guess I should ask...will I see a noticeable difference from a AX200U?

The quick answer is YES.

I had a Panasonic PT-AX100U and stepped up to a Epson 1080UB last year and I was thoroughly impressed with the upgrade. You will have no regrets. Now the Panasonic was a tad brighter but the contrast is so much better in the Epson you will never regret the upgrade!! So go for it!!

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The quick answer is YES.

I had a Panasonic PT-AX100U and stepped up to a Epson 1080UB last year and I was thoroughly impressed with the upgrade. You will have no regrets. Now the Panasonic was a tad brighter but the contrast is so much better in the Epson you will never regret the upgrade!! So go for it!!

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I just got a epson 6100 and it replaced my ax200.Difference was night and day.The blacks are that much better.
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Many of you may have seen my posts in the last 3 months agonizing over the many choices. Glad I waited! This is one SWEET projector for the price (at least if the reviews are to be trusted), kinda funny that it is listed in the $3000 and up forum!

Now the waiting begins!
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Many of you may have seen my posts in the last 3 months agonizing over the many choices. Glad I waited! This is one SWEET projector for the price (at least if the reviews are to be trusted), kinda funny that it is listed in the $3000 and up forum!

Now the waiting begins!

I was in the same position as you, especially after the Panasonic came out for $2000 and improved brightness. Finally i pulled the trigger on the Epson 8500 because it is still brighter than the Panasonic, slightly better contrast and better warranty. I am first on Projector People's list. Would have love to buy from AVS but the tax totally killed the deal for me!! Can't wait to have it in my hands.

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Can anyone recommend a mount model that will work with the 8500?

We are recommending the RPAU for our clients.
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I was in the same position as you, especially after the Panasonic came out for $2000 and improved brightness. Finally i pulled the trigger on the Epson 8500 because it is still brighter than the Panasonic, slightly better contrast and better warranty. I am first on Projector People's list. Would have love to buy from AVS but the tax totally killed the deal for me!! Can't wait to have it in my hands.

It's no problem...it is the thought that counts. We appreciate your presence never-the-less. Thanks for trying!
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Anyone know how much the 9500ub costs?

That is restricted to non-internet based dealers...CI. Though we are a CI and used to sell the Pro, we decided that we'd be better served with the Home version for the other side of our business. Made more sense since the 9500 competes price-wise with other superior projectors (JVC, Sony, etc...).
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I was in the same position as you, especially after the Panasonic came out for $2000 and improved brightness. Finally i pulled the trigger on the Epson 8500 because it is still brighter than the Panasonic, slightly better contrast and better warranty. I am first on Projector People's list. Would have love to buy from AVS but the tax totally killed the deal for me!! Can't wait to have it in my hands.

Me too. Talked to Jason this morning (thanks, Jason!) but the tax thing in California was the deal breaker. Sarah at PP took good care of me though, and I now I eagerly await the unit!
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Welcome. PP is a good alternative if there are reasons you cannot buy from AVS. Thanks again!
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It's no problem...it is the thought that counts. We appreciate your presence never-the-less. Thanks for trying!

Thank you Jason you are so kind. I feel indebted to AVS for "launching" me into home theater. I learned so much here. Hopefully i will get the chance to support AVS in the future.

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In the process of waiting for my 8500ub ( I feel like a kid on christmas..hurry up Jason, hehe)... i have been busy upgrading my HT, which is actually more of a big basement family room, with bar, fireplace, etc. Anyway I placed a combination of wood-framed fabric panels and fabricmate track, with GOM and linacoustics insulation. Got lots of tips/photos if anybody is interested? Also I upgrade the front stage with a velur valence, bass shakers in the seats, and a center 7.1 speaker. Possible the best improvement was the installation of a ceiling mounted cabinet for my 8500ub....no mo ceiling mounts!!!!!!!!!!! There was a previous post that used a cabinet from IKEA, which I took and reserved things a lil and improved the design in my opinion. I will post a complete tread in HT Design once I have my new PJ in place... I still have to attach the GOM 701 and finish the cabinet once I have the PJ in hand

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Thank you Jason you are so kind. I feel indebted to AVS for "launching" me into home theater. I learned so much here. Hopefully i will get the chance to support AVS in the future.

Welcome!
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I want to upgrade from a Epson 6500 to 8500 -- will there be a noticeable difference in brightness, contrast and sharpness?

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There will be only a very little difference between the 6500 & 8500. The FI might be slightly better and the iris can produce slightly deeper blacks. I would think that it would be smarter to wait another year unless you can sell your 6500 for a good price.
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add me to the list of not-so-patiently waiting No tax issues from me, thanks for the heads up Jason. I'm seeing ETA's of the 19th and 20th at other websites, here's to wishful thinking...

I chose this over the Panny for the brightness and longer lasting/cheaper replacement bulbs. 50% will be sports/football etc so some ambient light will be a must. I almost bought the Panny 4000 but kept reading about sub-par brightness, plus if the bulb dimms even faster... there were some reports of longer HDMI cables not working... I've got a 45' run. I do have to admit, though, the black PJ would look better on my (soon to be) darker ceilings...

This will be my first 1080 display, on to shop for blu-ray players I guess.
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Jason , when will power buy end ?
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There will be only a very little difference between the 6500 & 8500. The FI might be slightly better and the iris can produce slightly deeper blacks. I would think that it would be smarter to wait another year unless you can sell your 6500 for a good price.

Ya know, I was all excited about the 8500, and was _this_close_ to pulling the trigger on the introductory AVS deal.

But then my sanity returned. My 6500 is not even a year old. I've had some issues with it, but Epson support has been great and my replacement unit looks really good. Thanks to the FW fix, the FI is quite usable on 'low', and the blacks look exceptional now that I took down my mat white screen and put up my original dalite high contrast cinema vision. I know the 8500 is a bit better on paper, and has some interesting new features, but given the economy and uncertain job outlook I can't see shelling out the money for improvements that in all honesty probably won't be that noticeable.

I've decided to save my pennies, and we'll see what the next generation (or two) brings...
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Ya know, I was all excited about the 8500, and was _this_close_ to pulling the trigger on the introductory AVS deal.

But then my sanity returned. My 6500 is not even a year old. I've had some issues with it, but Epson support has been great and my replacement unit looks really good. Thanks to the FW fix, the FI is quite usable on 'low', and the blacks look exceptional now that I took down my mat white screen and put up my original dalite high contrast cinema vision. I know the 8500 is a bit better on paper, and has some interesting new features, but given the economy and uncertain job outlook I can't see shelling out the money for improvements that in all honesty probably won't be that noticeable.

I've decided to save my pennies, and we'll see what the next generation (or two) brings...

I was soo looking forward to upgrading my 6500 if the difference was noticeable. I went from a 1080 UB to a 6500 and thought the difference was great -- but if the consensus from 6500 to 8500 is not that big an upgrade, then I guess I'll have to wait? I do have the itch to upgrade though.
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I think many of us should wait until next year. I spoke someone who was involved with the 8500/9500 and he even said to wait. There are are a few improvements but If you have a good calibrated unit with the firmware upgrade I don't think you will notice much of a difference. Even at Cedia the 9500 was demonstrated without FI and the auto iris turned on.
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I was soo looking forward to upgrading my 6500 if the difference was noticeable. I went from a 1080 UB to a 6500 and thought the difference was great -- but if the consensus from 6500 to 8500 is not that big an upgrade, then I guess I'll have to wait? I do have the itch to upgrade though.

So really, you saw a true visual improvement from a 1080UB to the 6500? If so I am now really excited. I always skip a generation in my upgrades. I still have a 1080UB and honestly love the picture, it's just tough because I know there is something better. Well this is great news to here. I know in the reviews they say the 6500 is better, but that's a review, it's another thing to have a real user say he saw an improvement. Any comments you have to share on the difference will be appriciated

So yes I am like many of you, I feel like kid waiting for Christmas day. I have seen were some other sites show an ETA of the 11/19 or 11/20. It would be awesome to have our units ship by then so we can have them installed for Thanksgiving..but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

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I too am going to the 8500 from the 1080 UB and Ive had no issues with my 1080 UB so crossing my fingers that last years 6500 issues have been addressed and wont be an issue, thats about my only concern at this point.
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I too am going to the 8500 from the 1080 UB and Ive had no issues with my 1080 UB so crossing my fingers that last years 6500 issues have been addressed and wont be an issue, thats about my only concern at this point.

You know the past 6500 issues have not crossed my mind. I feel that in this current economical environment most, if not all companies are really focusing on customer service and quality. Very few of us, or lest say, fewer people today have the spending money that we all use to just two years ago. So we really shop for our purchases and really want a good value for our money. If any company were to come out with a bad or even troublesome product in this day, the news would spread like wildfire and could really hurt their bottom line.

What I will do is once I have my unit installed and if it does work just like expected and blows me away... I may stay away from the forums or at least the projector forums for a bit. There always the guy who discovers this one tiny little issue that no one would have ever noticed or cared until someone points it out. Then it drives you nuts and we all are rushing to get our projectors replaced... I have played this game way to long... and have learned. If it all works right and you enjoy am amazing Movie experience, then sit back and enjoy it and forget all the technical things.
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...once I have my unit installed and if it does work just like expected and blows me away... I may stay away from the forums or at least the projector forums for a bit... I have played this game way to long... and have learned. If it all works right and you enjoy am amazing Movie experience, then sit back and enjoy it and forget all the technical things.

Horta, I think that these are the most true words I've read in a forum in ages.

And I'm following your advice.
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Right now no end date...if that changes I will make a post.
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Hi Jason - thanks for the quote, you gave a great price but the CA tax thing also killed it for me. My current Epson 1080 (non-UB) I purchased from forum sponsor Visual Apex and they were great to deal with, so I'll go that way if I take the plunge on the 8500UB.

That would be a 3 generation leap for me so I'm assuming quite an upgrade? Still happy with the 1080 but coming from a Barco 1209 the Epson Black levels are a letdown, hoping to regain some of that magic.
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Ya know, I was all excited about the 8500, and was _this_close_ to pulling the trigger on the introductory AVS deal.

But then my sanity returned. My 6500 is not even a year old. I've had some issues with it, but Epson support has been great and my replacement unit looks really good. Thanks to the FW fix, the FI is quite usable on 'low', and the blacks look exceptional now that I took down my mat white screen and put up my original dalite high contrast cinema vision. I know the 8500 is a bit better on paper, and has some interesting new features, but given the economy and uncertain job outlook I can't see shelling out the money for improvements that in all honesty probably won't be that noticeable.

I've decided to save my pennies, and we'll see what the next generation (or two) brings...

Same here. I have 6500 which I got from Jason, it was a major step up from Panny AE2000. The 8500/9500 will be a good step up from lesser/older PJs, but not from 6500. By most accounts the 8500 is very close to the 6500 with same D7 panels and optical path, save for some improvement in dynamic IRIS.

I think to see an appreciable step from 6500 you need to look for the new Sony or JVC with all the $$$ consequences unless you get a good deal on a used RS20.

Myself, I'll wait for LED and next-gen LCOS panels.
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Same here. I have 6500 which I got from Jason, it was a major step up from Panny AE2000. The 8500/9500 will be a good step up from lesser/older PJs, but not from 6500. By most accounts the 8500 is very close to the 6500 with same D7 panels and optical path, save for some improvement in dynamic IRIS.

I think to see an appreciable step from 6500 you need to look for the new Sony or JVC with all the $$$ consequences unless you get a good deal on a used RS20.

Myself, I'll wait for LED and next-gen LCOS panels.

Agreed...going away from LCD into a superior technology would make more sense if one already had the 6500 (assuming price wasn't an issue).
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