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Yeah, this is my 5th weekend watching football on a 50 plasma....how barbaric is that?

It's blasphemy! Sad part is I have a high end projector (JVC RS35) and a 10.5' wide 2.35:1 screen with high end sound system. I find that 99% of the time I watch my 50" Panny plasma through the internal TV speakers.
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Hey, if you really don't like it that much and would rather watch your tv. I could take it for you to clear up your space. Just trying to be neighborly.
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It's blasphemy! Sad part is I have a high end projector (JVC RS35) and a 10.5' wide 2.35:1 screen with high end sound system. I find that 99% of the time I watch my 50" Panny plasma through the internal TV speakers.

TV's have speakers?
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It's blasphemy! Sad part is I have a high end projector (JVC RS35) and a 10.5' wide 2.35:1 screen with high end sound system. I find that 99% of the time I watch my 50" Panny plasma through the internal TV speakers.

I've found myself doing the same recently. Although probably more like 90% in my case. When I have a good movie on Blu-ray, two hours to dedicate, I make a night of it. Otherwise, I just turn on the flat panel to watch CNN or Discovery for a bit - doesn't make sense to go to the HT room, sit in the dark and turn on the PJ for 1/2 an hour, especially for 'regular TV'. All the same, it makes the movie night all that much more of 'wow' experience. It blows me away each time!

Eventually I'll probably get an ultra bright projector for the living room with something like a motorized black diamond screen that just drops in front of the plasma - something that still looks good (and is bright enough) with subdued ambient lighting.
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So I am still considering getting a panasonic AE4000 over the Epson unit. Mainly because of their implentation of CFI vs Epsons. But I am wanting to factor in my particular situation. I have the capability of hanging my projector anywhere from 9 to 15 ft from my screen. My screen is a white screen with a 1.1 ratio. I have my lights on a dimmer and I essentially have a cave. 0 light if I choose and dark green walls and a dark blue cieling. I will watch sports during the footbal season but my primary use would be for movies and gaming. If I chose the panasonic how far away should I hang it for a good balanced performance. Also does it make more sense to wait on the Epson? If so why?
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I'm choosing the Epson over the AE4000 because of its FI implementation! I'm familiar with the present implementation of FI and low with movies looks great. I want a more aggressive, artifact free, FI in normal and high modes for animation and music concerts.
I just reread Cine4Home's Epson review again and these guys were really impressed with the FI in all modes.
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Link to the rebate in case anyone wants to get a head start filling it out...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWor...SON_8500UB.pdf

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Hey Jason, Can you post a link to the PDF manual for the 8500 when you get it pleaze?

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Does anyone know if the 8500ub has the input to hook up a 12V trigger to activate an electric screen?
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Also, what kind of cable would one use to trigger a screen? Could I use a 50' cable?


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Does anyone know if the 8500ub has the input to hook up a 12V trigger to activate an electric screen?

Yes it does.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...500ub/tour.php
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Also, what kind of cable would one use to trigger a screen? Could I use a 50' cable?

I looked at the picture of the back panel of the projector. It looks like a simple 1/8" mono cable. These things require a relatively low voltage. I would guess a 50' mono cable would work fine.
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I looked at the picture of the back panel of the projector. It looks like a simple 1/8" mono cable. These things require a relatively low voltage. I would guess a 50' mono cable would work fine.

If someone can confirm exactly what type of cable (including ends) that would be great. I need to run the cable through the ceiling soon before they finish the plastering of my basement. Also, I trust most electric screens have the trigger cable input. I'm looking at the Da-lite Tensioned Cos. Electrol. I'm trying to avoid paying for the expensive addition of the RF remote control for this unit. In Canada they are asking $300-350.
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If you run a simple CAT5 or even speaker wire, you can put the mono 3.5mm end on later.

http://www.tvcables.co.uk/images/ite...ca-adapter.jpg

the projector end will look like this, the other end depends on your trigger input, maybe this or RCA...

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If someone can confirm exactly what type of cable (including ends) that would be great. I need to run the cable through the ceiling soon before they finish the plastering of my basement. Also, I trust most electric screens have the trigger cable input. I'm looking at the Da-lite Tensioned Cos. Electrol. I'm trying to avoid paying for the expensive addition of the RF remote control for this unit. In Canada they are asking $300-350.


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I found a stereo 50' cable on amazon but no mono. Will stereo work?


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You need mono.

Do you have a radio shack nearby?

Just get a 50' spool of speaker wire and a 3.5mm to 3.5mm 3' cable for $2.
Cut the mono cable and add the two ends to the speaker wire..

All done for under $10.

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I found a stereo 50' cable on amazon but no mono. Will stereo work?


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will buy epson 8500ub soon but i'm worry about stuck/deah pixels. should i buy QC service to check for dead/stuck pixels, dust blobs, convergence errors, etc...?
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Link to the rebate in case anyone wants to get a head start filling it out...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWor...SON_8500UB.pdf

rebate doesn't work for bestbuy instore or online purchase, maybe they will have it as an instant rebate?
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"I just reread Cine4Home's Epson review again and these guys were really impressed with the FI in all modes."

Got a link? For the life of me I can't find anything recent at the cine4home site on Epson.

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will buy epson 8500ub soon but i'm worry about stuck/deah pixels. should i buy QC service to check for dead/stuck pixels, dust blobs, convergence errors, etc...?

If you are worried about QC issues order it from AVS and ask Jason to perform his check over it. Plus if you call him soon you should be pleasantly surprised about how much it will cost after everything is said and done.
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If you are worried about QC issues order it from AVS and ask Jason to perform his check over it. Plus if you call him soon you should be pleasantly surprised about how much it will cost after everything is said and done.

Will order from Jason soon, i just worry because look like 6500 have some problems
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Hey Jason, Can you post a link to the PDF manual for the 8500 when you get it pleaze?
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I'd like that link too. Does anybody know of such a thing?

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I have never seen a Panasonic you could watch in daylight, with my old Epson 6100 I could turn on 10 can lights in the basement and still have a watchable picture. My buddy has a Panny 3K and you need all lights out, and then the image is soft with that smooth screen stuff. Even the reviews support the same for the new 4000 vs 8500, its Epson all the way for me.

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I've got an 8500 on order. In my current setup (Epson Cinema 550), I simply have it mounted via a plumbing pipe on a piece of black particle board with holes cut in the right location for the mounting screws.

Might do the same with the 8500, but toying with the Monoprice mount. Anyone have experience with this mount, and any knowledge if it will fit the 8500?

thx for any info or experience with the 6500, 6100 or 8100.

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"I just reread Cine4Home's Epson review again and these guys were really impressed with the FI in all modes."

Got a link? For the life of me I can't find anything recent at the cine4home site on Epson.

Check page 4 of this thread - Darinp2 gives the link. I just tried the link again and it doesn't work now. At the time I printed out the whole review. What would you like to know?
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"What would you like to know?"

What on/off and ANSI CR he got, brightness, how much highlights were dimmed by the DI in dark scenes.

Thanks

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I wonder what people did back in the day before there were projectors Instead of staring at a blank wall you could do a puppet show for the family, or play board games, or talk to each other, or sing songs, or cancel thanksgiving because the damn projector won't be there on time and just tell them to come over for Christmas instead.

If I could pull off a puppet show or board game in 1080p with 7.1 surround sound I would be all over it. and the idea is to not talk to my family
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If you are worried about QC issues order it from AVS and ask Jason to perform his check over it. Plus if you call him soon you should be pleasantly surprised about how much it will cost after everything is said and done.


I am about to pre-order the 8500UB. Where do I go to order it from Jason? I would like to support the foum, but just not sure where to look. Thanks

BTW - started working on the theater about a week ago. I will have a theater build thread starting pretty soon. watch for it!
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Go to the AV Science Store link at the top of the page to order from Jason.
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