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great shots, cant wait for mine!
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Out of the box settings on cinema 1. So whatever that is. You really have to see this projector in person though. Camera shots are never going to do it justice.

I was thinking about getting a 2.35 screen to go with this projector, but the bars are so dark on my 16x9 I don't really need to zoom or go any wider.

Thanks for taking the time to indulge those of us who are still waiting! Any chance you could post a non-cropped image (showing bars)?
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I am legend

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Just got done watching Legend, my first Blu-Ray. I did nothing (today) to tweak the settings, just watched the defaults. That second shot is quite representative of just how good this projector looks. Put it this way, if you're an actor, you don't want to have one blackhead
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The projector and my theater.

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Very nice, Mr. AugDog. No doubt the AE4000 will help get you through that cold Minnesooooota winter!
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Thanks for taking the time to indulge those of us who are still waiting! Any chance you could post a non-cropped image (showing bars)?

Here is one. Good luck at making it out.

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Here I blew out the brighness and you can barely see the difference between the frame and the screen. '

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Wife just came in and said wow. Asked if we could get a new movie for tonight. Life is good.
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Here is one. Good luck at making it out.

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Here I blew out the brighness and you can barely see the difference between the frame and the screen. '

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Impressive! Thanks a lot.
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Just got done watching Legend, my first Blu-Ray. I did nothing (today) to tweak the settings, just watched the defaults. That second shot is quite representative of just how good this projector looks. Put it this way, if you're an actor, you don't want to have one blackhead

What picture mode did you choose?
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OK, these don't do this justice and sorry for the not so good pictures. Going to switch lenses on my camera and roll out the tripod. Anyway, here are the handheld shots with big f-stop. Like I said, not the right lens for this job.

Dark Knight.

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Congrats on being the first owner up with pics. They look quite good especially the last one. Lot's of detail.

Enjoy

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Thanks for taking the time to indulge those of us who are still waiting! Any chance you could post a non-cropped image (showing bars)?

One more. You can see there is no light leaking outside of the image. Off to the gym, late dinner, and a movie. Catch you all later. Interested in what others think.

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Here is one. Good luck at making it out.

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Here I blew out the brighness and you can barely see the difference between the frame and the screen. '

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Very instructive. With black borders like this many may reconsider the need for a CIH setup. Looks to be even a darker black than my almost new Panny plasma. Very promising.

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Here is one. Good luck at making it out.

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Here I blew out the brighness and you can barely see the difference between the frame and the screen. '

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Wow, that is impressive! The blacks are excellent. You can't even pic out where the screen and frame meet!
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What picture mode did you choose?

Just left it on Normal, which is the default setting. Had to go to Hollywood Video to pick up a Blu-Ray (Netflix Blu-Rays won't show up for a couple days), so I'll have Legend to play around with for a few days with some of the other settings.
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The projector and my theater.

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I am surprised you have a big reflective surface so close to your screen. You don't get glare and other weird light movement? Nice wall color.


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I am surprised you have a big reflective surface so close to your screen. You don't get glare and other weird light movement? Nice wall color.

No, never see the picture when the lights are down. Paint is Ralph Lauren Warwick Lodge matte. It is essentially a very dark green. The ralph lauren paint goes better than any paint I have tried. Wife picked Patton for the movie tonight.
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My bulb just crossed 2 hours. I turned it on, set to cinema 1 and adjusted the screen size and focus, no other setup yet. Image is very bright, I have a 110" carada brilliant white screen. I don't see any pixels, black levels are excellent, depth is crazy...image just pops but still has most of that crt feel. Played with some bluray's, comcast, ps3 and my htpc. Can't wait to calibrate, should get to spend some time with a Chroma 5 this weekend after I paint and get some more hours on the bulb. I had to put up some of the curtain fabric as a temp fix around the screen, the brightness combined with builder beige is not a good solution...the new darker paint color is in the can and going up in the morning while the curtains are finished. This is my second digital, first was the Sony HS51 and prior to that I was in the CRT world, sony 1292/marquee 8500. I never had much HD on the CRT's but this projector blows them all away. I don't have anything else to reference except for the 6 or so hours I watched a RS20 and I am thrilled with the image quality I have out of the box. It is bright, deep and has plenty of punch. Blacks are far deeper than my old sony lcd and from a quick comparison don't seem to be that far off from my 50 inch kuro downstairs. The iris is 1000 times better vs my old sony. Scaler is perfect even on news crawls and my old dvd's. Pj is about twice the size of the old sony and is near silent even while it is sitting on the table 2 feet away as I type this. My ceiling mount should be in next week. I have a lot more setup to do (new room in a new house, new receiver too) but man LCD projectors have come a long way. Very happy.
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Room is still a work in progress, with new seating scheduled to show up next week and a little more painting to finish. As mentioned in previous posts, the L, C and R front speakers are behind an acoustically transparent screen, due to the narrowness of the room.
Screen is 114".
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Room is still a work in progress, with new seating scheduled to show up next week and a little more painting to finish. As mentioned in previous posts, the L, C and R front speakers are behind an acoustically transparent screen, due to the narrowness of the room.
Screen is 114".

Very intimate. I bet that is an immersive experience. Congrats.
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Donkie, thanks for your assessment. I totally agree.

Couple of things. Didn't realize it, but had turned off the dynamic iris when i was messing around in the menus. Still looked great.

Played with the frame creation modes a little more. 2 and 3 give it what I would describe as a video effect. Almost video camera like. I like mode 1. Still had a film quality but reduces the motion blur of the 24 fps by just a hair.

2 and 3 should be great for sports though. Will give it a try for football this weekend.

Also, logitech does not have the remote codes out on its site for those of you using harmonys. I am trying the 3000 codes.
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Quick General Question:

If I were to set up the AE 4000 with a ceiling mount (keeping in mind that I have the attic right above this room), there is a power outlet in the attic. Can I just run an extention cord in the attic and plug the AE4000 power to that? or is that classified as breaking housecode?

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Quick General Question:

If I were to set up the AE 4000 with a ceiling mount (keeping in mind that I have the attic right above this room), there is a power outlet in the attic. Can I just run an extention cord in the attic and plug the AE4000 power to that? or is that classified as breaking housecode?

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How far away is the power outlet? Panasonic supplies a very long cord (I'm guessing 10'); in my case, it was a bit of a PITA, since my receptacle is about a foot from the projector and I could only hide maybe half of the cord in the mount bracket. I'm thinking that so long as you use a similar gage extension cord, there wouldn't be any harm. Another option would be to run a new box from the existing box and place it in the ceiling or in the attic within reach of the Panny cord. I think that's how I'd do it. Should be a relatively easy task.
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Played around for about 2 hours tonight. Setup was a snap (though navigating the menus to find the focus was fun). Watched a bit of IronMan, streamed some 30 Rock through NetFlix and played a bit of Halo ODST.

I had changed the no-signal background from the default Blue to Black, and noticed right before turning the unit off that there's a single blue pixel near the bottom toward the middle. I'm assuming this is a stuck pixel.

My prev/first projector was a DLP, so this was never an issue. I remember the PSP debacle with everyone returning units to get a perfect screen. Is a single pixel expected / better than average, or grounds for replacement? I remember some tricks people had for the PSP that would flash the screen a bunch and often were able to "unstick" a pixel. Is this a common thing to deal with in the world of LCD projectors?
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Quick General Question:

If I were to set up the AE 4000 with a ceiling mount (keeping in mind that I have the attic right above this room), there is a power outlet in the attic. Can I just run an extention cord in the attic and plug the AE4000 power to that? or is that classified as breaking housecode?

Thanks

Technically, that would be against code most likely.
For a solid solution, you could branch off the "hot" in the attic outlet, and put in a brand new outlet right in the ceiling where you have the pj mounted.
This is very easy to do considering all the wiring is in the attic.
If you do not have the knowledge and/or experience to do it yourself, you could hire a professional and it shouldn't cost very much at all.
About an hour or so for a pro to get it done.

Only drawback I can see, it surge protection. However, for those type of situations (which I have a few in my house), Monster makes a little two outlet protector that plugs right in to the outlet and is the same size as the outlet for length and width.
The depth is about 2 inches though.
Even with the surge and plug, it still probably wouldn't have down below the pj.

Just some thoughts for you...

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I am hoping that Panasonic did not achieve this price point by doing what they did with the AX100/200, by making them unreliable. Browsing through those AX100/200 threads is frightening.
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Room is still a work in progress, with new seating scheduled to show up next week and a little more painting to finish. As mentioned in previous posts, the L, C and R front speakers are behind an acoustically transparent screen, due to the narrowness of the room.
Screen is 114".

Alice in wonderland feel to it. But hey, it works.
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Technically, that would be against code most likely.
For a solid solution, you could branch off the "hot" in the attic outlet, and put in a brand new outlet right in the ceiling where you have the pj mounted.
This is very easy to do considering all the wiring is in the attic.
If you do not have the knowledge and/or experience to do it yourself, you could hire a professional and it shouldn't cost very much at all.
About an hour or so for a pro to get it done.

Only drawback I can see, it surge protection. However, for those type of situations (which I have a few in my house), Monster makes a little two outlet protector that plugs right in to the outlet and is the same size as the outlet for length and width.
The depth is about 2 inches though.
Even with the surge and plug, it still probably wouldn't have down below the pj.

Just some thoughts for you...

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He said the M word...I recommend a Panamax product or a ps audio soloist for that new pj. If you're going to do it...do it right. Otherwise branch off a nearby point and install new box/receptacle.
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I don't have anything else to reference except for the 6 or so hours I watched a RS20 and I am thrilled with the image quality I have out of the box.

Can you comment on how black level, dark scene detail, and sharpness compared to the RS20? I know the JVC is much higer priced projector, but I am curious if the AE4000 was close in any of those areas.
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Here is one. Good luck at making it out.

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Here I blew out the brighness and you can barely see the difference between the frame and the screen. '

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With blacks like that there is no need for masking.

I want to hear opinions from people who don't have a dog in the fight.
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I am hoping that Panasonic did not achieve this price point by doing what they did with the AX100/200, by making them unreliable. Browsing through those AX100/200 threads is frightening.

I never had a problem with my ax100 or 200.Panny is just as good as any other brand as for as quality.Wake up
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