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Does AVS sell the rs25 I wonder ?? edit: the RS25 is more then the rs40, am I missing something ???

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Just meant it's value has now essentially hit bottom. RS1 worth ~$1000 to $1500 from MSRP of $6295 in 2007

I remember shopping for a used RS1 last year and saw that range of pricing back then, well, maybe a little higher (some 500hr RS1's for around $1500).

But really, look at the used value of any $6000 msrp HT projector from 2007. It's not exclusive to RS1's.
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Nope they work but you might want to image tag them.
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I went to my local Best Buy and they had a 350 running in a dedicated room that was totally dark. After hearing rave reviews everywhere about the JVC, I expected the picture to be amazing. The blacks just weren't anywhere near what I thought they should be. Could this one projector have been adjusted so badly that it would skew the picture that much??
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Let's see if these work from photobucket.com .
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I went to my local Best Buy and they had a 350 running in a dedicated room that was totally dark. After hearing rave reviews everywhere about the JVC, I expected the picture to be amazing. The blacks just weren't anywhere near what I thought they should be. Could this one projector have been adjusted so badly that it would skew the picture that much??

That's the point. You don't know what the settings where.

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I agree. That was my point !
I was referring to the RS1's value when I say it's had it's last legs knocked out from underneath. Sorry for unclarity; my fault.
RS1 is still an awesome PJ. Just meant it's value has now essentially hit bottom. RS1 worth ~$1000 to $1500 from MSRP of $6295 in 2007

Thanks for the clarification, and I agree

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I went to my local Best Buy and they had a 350 running in a dedicated room that was totally dark. After hearing rave reviews everywhere about the JVC, I expected the picture to be amazing. The blacks just weren't anywhere near what I thought they should be. Could this one projector have been adjusted so badly that it would skew the picture that much??

I just received my 250 today so I havent been able to play with it for long but went through a few blu rays for a couple hours. I notice a SIGNIFICANT improvement from the epson 8100. The black levels were good enough that I could not see black bars on top and bottom when watching 2.35:1. So far I'm very pleased with the purchase. More than the black levels I noticed a distinct contrast upgrade from the epson to the jvc.
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Here.. lemme help. Mine looks the same except I don't have a Pro sticker on it















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I just received my 250 today so I havent been able to play with it for long but went through a few blu rays for a couple hours. I notice a SIGNIFICANT improvement from the epson 8100. The black levels were good enough that I could not see black bars on top and bottom when watching 2.35:1. So far I'm very pleased with the purchase. More than the black levels I noticed a distinct contrast upgrade from the epson to the jvc.

I'll have to go back tomorrow and see if I can fiddle with it and truly see what this projector can do....it seems like everyone is loving this bad boy.
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I ordered my 250 from AVS on Monday and it arrived Wednesday morning. Jason and AVS came through big! Now I guess I need to call them back and get a ceiling mount too. Definitely recommend!
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I ordered my 250 from AVS on Monday and it arrived Wednesday morning. Jason and AVS came through big! Now I guess I need to call them back and get a ceiling mount too. Definitely recommend!

I ordered mine from Jason today and I'll be getting it on Friday. I've been reading up on all of the RS10 and 15 reviews and looking at settings. This projector is very very good based on the reviews of its twin brothers.

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I went to my local Best Buy and they had a 350 running in a dedicated room that was totally dark. After hearing rave reviews everywhere about the JVC, I expected the picture to be amazing. The blacks just weren't anywhere near what I thought they should be. Could this one projector have been adjusted so badly that it would skew the picture that much??

I'm not sure what screen my BB uses but I detest the screen they have it setup on which has major sparklies and viewing angle issues. For best black level results on the 350 you need to close down the IRIS (3 step I believe) and put the lamp in low lamp mode.
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I just received my 250 today so I havent been able to play with it for long but went through a few blu rays for a couple hours. I notice a SIGNIFICANT improvement from the epson 8100. The black levels were good enough that I could not see black bars on top and bottom when watching 2.35:1. So far I'm very pleased with the purchase. More than the black levels I noticed a distinct contrast upgrade from the epson to the jvc.

So if you knew what you know now, would you have still upgraded from your8100 to the HD250? did you change anything else in your home theater besides the projector? I'm in the same boat. I have a 8100 and and am pondering the HD250 or a RS40. Not really big into the 3d...
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Screens you guys are pairing with your HD250?

Not sure if I'm making the best or worst possible decision on screen material for my HD250 but thinking of going with the High Power 2.4.

130" 2.35:1 CIH screen using anamorphic lens
Room is 17 x 30. 10 foot ceilings. Light controlled dedicated HT room. All 4 walls covered with dark gray fabric panels, typical white ceiling, no windows, dark wood floor w/ rug. HD250 sits 16.5 feet from screen wall. Only projecting movies; never sports or TV. Usually have 4 fam members in room on movie night so viewing angle is key.

I like the theoretical brightness of the Da-lite High Power. And the 2.4 gain should permit better viewing angle than the original 2.8 HP screen.
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I can't tell if I'm rushing into a screen I don't need due to all the Da-lite High Power hype / enthusiasm or not.
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You need to post the size of the screen, and color/shade of the room.
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Thanks, Fleaman.
I edit-added the info into my orig post.
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Screens you guys are pairing with your HD250?

Not sure if I'm making the best or worst possible decision on screen material for my HD250 but thinking of going with the High Power 2.4.

130" 2.35:1 CIH screen using anamorphic lens
Room is 17 x 30. 10 foot ceilings. Light controlled dedicated HT room. All 4 walls covered with dark gray fabric panels, typical white ceiling, no windows, dark wood floor w/ rug. HD250 sits 16.5 feet from screen wall. Only projecting movies; never sports or TV. Usually have 4 fam members in room on movie night so viewing angle is key.

I like the theoretical brightness of the Da-lite High Power. And the 2.4 gain should permit better viewing angle than the original 2.8 HP screen.

have you considered a larger 16:9, there's still plenty of movies in 16:9. I just upgraded my original dalite 2.8 to a 142" diagonal Cinema Contour also with the 2.8 material. No issue sitting 4 across, still within the max gain of the viewing cone.

My goal was to have the screen width the same as a 133" diagonal 2:35:1 setup, so my scope movies are quite large and the 16:9 even bigger.

check out my setup if your interested.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post19310440
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Screens you guys are pairing with your HD250?

Not sure if I'm making the best or worst possible decision on screen material for my HD250 but thinking of going with the High Power 2.4.

130" 2.35:1 CIH screen using anamorphic lens
Room is 17 x 30. 10 foot ceilings. Light controlled dedicated HT room. All 4 walls covered with dark gray fabric panels, typical white ceiling, no windows, dark wood floor w/ rug. HD250 sits 16.5 feet from screen wall. Only projecting movies; never sports or TV. Usually have 4 fam members in room on movie night so viewing angle is key.

I like the theoretical brightness of the Da-lite High Power. And the 2.4 gain should permit better viewing angle than the original 2.8 HP screen.

I'm using the same screen I've had for the last 5 years. It is a gray, glass beaded, 1.8 gain screen. However, my walls and ceiling are now yellow instead of white they were in my previous place.

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For the lucky ones that have received the HD250 how are the setting right out of the box?

Also if ordered from AVS are you getting it calibrated by AVS?

By the time (6 months) I order either this one or the Mits HC6800 there will be numerous posts with settings posted.

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I had mine calibrated by AVS.

Beautiful picture in a light controlled very darkly painted room.

The blacks are black. The grey hue over all colors in dark scenes is gone compared to my Panasonic AX100.

The image is better than that in any theater I've ever been in.
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Does anyone know if JVC "tweaked" the colors on this particular projector release? I know everyone keeps saying that it's an HD350/rs10 clone, which I understand. But they are certainly able to do a little software adjustment for the colors if they wanted to. I'm refering to the generally oversaturated colors of the machine. And NO, turning down "color" a bit doesn't correct anything. This reduces color brightness, not color saturation. (Heck, I've even seen that control on plenty of televisions called "color saturation", but that's not really what it's doing).
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So if you knew what you know now, would you have still upgraded from your8100 to the HD250? did you change anything else in your home theater besides the projector? I'm in the same boat. I have a 8100 and and am pondering the HD250 or a RS40. Not really big into the 3d...


I had purchased a clearanced 8100 from the local BB last week to see its quality before purchasing a new model. I was happy with the 8100 for the 2 weeks I watched it but thought it had dark grey blacks and some scenes appeared more washed out then I thought they were intended. I rewatched an episode of Spartacus that I had watched twice watched on the 8100 and noticed a big improvement in contrast. Was it worth the additional $1400 well that's a tough argument but if you're anything like me you want the best option available for your money and I decided the 250 was the route to go.
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For the lucky ones that have received the HD250 how are the setting right out of the box?

Also if ordered from AVS are you getting it calibrated by AVS?

By the time (6 months) I order either this one or the Mits HC6800 there will be numerous posts with settings posted.

I didn't have it calibrated from AVS and I'm happy with it right out of the box. I am sure the performance would be that much better with calibration but in my opinion it looks better than any screen I've seen at a movie theater and for me thats more than enough. Besides I have to still spent money on a chief mount and new subwoofer so I figured Id save the calibration $ and so far no complaints.
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You know you purchased a damn good projector when the company can re-release it under a different name 2 years after it was originally made !!

I hope eveyone enjoys thier JVC as much as I have.

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I'm going with the SeymourAV XD screen (narrow room so need to get an acoustic screen so it can be a good size).

Any pointers for how to setup/configure the projector? Also, I'm going to mount it as close as I can for increased brightness if it's needed.
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Screens you guys are pairing with your HD250?

Not sure if I'm making the best or worst possible decision on screen material for my HD250 but thinking of going with the High Power 2.4.

130" 2.35:1 CIH screen using anamorphic lens
Room is 17 x 30. 10 foot ceilings. Light controlled dedicated HT room. All 4 walls covered with dark gray fabric panels, typical white ceiling, no windows, dark wood floor w/ rug. HD250 sits 16.5 feet from screen wall. Only projecting movies; never sports or TV. Usually have 4 fam members in room on movie night so viewing angle is key.

I like the theoretical brightness of the Da-lite High Power. And the 2.4 gain should permit better viewing angle than the original 2.8 HP screen.

If you like brightness don't hesitate getting the Dalite screen. I'm considering the RS40 and I went to a dealer today and saw the HD250 but the room could only be darkened slightly so I couldn't make any judgements on it one way or another. I hower saw an HD550(RS15) and it was a step down from my RS2 setup with the Dalite HP 2.8 screen. The setup I saw was a larger screen with an anamorphic lens but the Dalite screen put my setup in another league. After seeing the 550 I think my black levels on my RS2 might be slightly higher because of the screen however the difference in brightness levels is dramatic (and remember that the 550 is a brighter projector than my RS2 clone).
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For those who have this unit, how is the sharpness? Have any of you been able to compare sharpness to Epson or Dlp?
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