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So if I wanted to zoom between a 2.35:1 and 16:9 screen; I would not have to place the projector within the field of the screen, correct? ...because I can zoom and shift all I want from the comfort of my armchair.

That's right, though if you frequently change between 2.35:1 and 16:9, it might get rather tedious after a while.
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I have a RS20 and for a while I did the zoom version of 2.35. I now have a anamorphic lens. To me it was a pain zooming and shifting everything i had a different aspect ratio. The zooming is no big deal, but having to shift made it harder.
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Well if that is true (can anyone confirm this?) then it would look fine in my setup. I have complete light control (bat cave). I thought being that the projector was so close to the screen that it would be brighter (more light) therefore hampering the black level.

it will be brighter, but if you don't need the lumens close down your iris. 3 steps are available, more if you read the first couple pages.

how black looks to your eyes, which is what you're talking about, will be affected by your screen & your environment.

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Being an RS-1 owner I am happy with the overall picture and blacks
look black to me on a hi power screen. From what I read thru this thread
is the 250 would be somewhat of a lateral move? Correct me if I am wrong!
Haven't seen the 250 but have seen a 550 and didn't make me want to switch.

With that being said should I focus my attention on the RS40 since it is
new generation technology?

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Can you give a ballpark figure on what you paid for your pre-order?

Call AVS -- they have a great price on the RS40. I was looking at at the HD250 too and decided to stretch and just go for the newer model...
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I have a RS20 and for a while I did the zoom version of 2.35. I now have a anamorphic lens. To me it was a pain zooming and shifting everything i had a different aspect ratio. The zooming is no big deal, but having to shift made it harder.

Was it ever necessary to refocus too?
I think I could live with zoom/shift, but refocus would be a pain.
Been zooming in/out for a while now myself, and every once in a while the focus gets off, but I think just cuz the dial is a bit loosey-goosey on my (non-JVC) pj.
I bought a cheap lens a while back, but have never used it cuz I was told it causes to much degradation to the pic unless you use a high end lens.
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Call AVS -- they have a great price on the RS40. I was looking at at the HD250 too and decided to stretch and just go for the newer model...

I looked at this also, but I need powered focus/zoom/H+V shift and the RS40 does not have this.

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I looked at this also, but I need powered focus/zoom/H+V shift and the RS40 does not have this.

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I looked at this also, but I need powered focus/zoom/H+V shift and the RS40 does not have this.

What makes you think that? The RS40 does have powered focus, zoom & shift.
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I looked at this also, but I need powered focus/zoom/H+V shift and the RS40 does not have this.

The RS40 (as well as all other recent JVC models) does have powered focus/zoom/H+V Shift.

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...more progress today. If everything arrive I should have the projector working by the weekend(fight night). I added some photos with a little write up in my sig. I now have power! at least to the screen and projector locations. I took a step by step approach. This hobby is so much fun.
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What makes you think that? The RS40 does have powered focus, zoom & shift.

On Projector Central I have the RS40 in my compare file and it shows it to be manual. It also shows the new Sony VPL-VWPRO1 to be manual also. Is there a good comparison website that compares all of the new JVC PJ's?

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You just had two JVC guys tell you the specs. I would take their word over a third party website.

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You just had two JVC guys tell you the specs. I would take their word over a third party website.

I did not realize these were JVC guys!!

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I did not realize these were JVC guys!!

Yep. They are.

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Does this unit (HD250) have a 12v trigger? And if so does it output a constant 12v signal when powered on, or is it temporary?
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got mine today took one day to drop ship to me from jersey found the guy on videogon and he was in my area code 570. he had killer feedback and i'm currently trying to get a stewart screen as well. it was weird i talked to the guy from avs he said national backorder. not sure where they are located. i noticed a huge difference from the epson 8100 i replaced. i had it for a week and just wasn't happy. i have a painted screen with screen goo. it's the gray high contrast which isn't the correct paint for my new projector. decisions decisions repaint or screen?
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The RS40 (as well as all other recent JVC models) does have powered focus/zoom/H+V Shift.

Chris

So the HD250 does have H lens shift???
I'm thinking if I get this pj, I can maybe just drop it right in the same spot as my current pj... but, that pj does not have a centered lens... however if the HD250 has H lens shift, maybe I can use just pinch of that.
-OR- would it be better to relocate the mount so the lens is centered on the screen?

I don't know why I even ask, because even if I can use lens shift, I will probably center it anyway cause I'm too damn anal...

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On Projector Central I have the RS40 in my compare file and it shows it to be manual. It also shows the new Sony VPL-VWPRO1 to be manual also. Is there a good comparison website that compares all of the new JVC PJ's?

Don't trust the specs on PJ Central until they actually review the PJ - even still, I've seen numerous errors in Zoom range values, throw ranges, etc.

Always go the manf site for the definitive specs with lower chance of errors.
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Quick review: blu-ray on Da-Lite High Power 2.8, 119" diagonal, 12-foot throw, Panasonic BD-55, testing with movies: Fantastic Four, State of Play, Donnie Brasco, Wild Things, Silver Surfer...

I think the HP 2.8 is a good match for this projector. Detail level is excellent. Dynamic range is excellent. Once things are dialed in (gamma/color/tint), the colors look very, very good. Only negative I have seen so far is a bit of blur on heavy motion scenes.

Good value for money here. For a ambient light room, I probably wouldn't go larger than 119". 110" is probably about perfect.
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I don't know why I even ask, because even if I can use lens shift, I will probably center it anyway cause I'm too damn anal...

Yes it does have H shift as well. Before you get too anal about centring it anyway, read this thread (mainly from post #9) and the others below it as to why putting it dead centre might not be the best position, it certainly wasn't for my HD350 and benefited the image by not being dead centre:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post19363449

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I did not realize these were JVC guys!!

Just FYI - cdeutsch works for JVC US and I'm Technical Manager across the pond at JVC(UK).
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And here is a link top the specs and functions for the RS 40:
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/s...&feature_id=03

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Wait a minute... Horizontal Lens shift!?! Meaning I could put this PJ in the corner of my room 6 feet of center?
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Wait a minute... Horizontal Lens shift!?! Meaning I could put this PJ in the corner of my room 6 feet of center?

Only if your screen is 18feet wide.

Horizontal shift is only +/- 34%. which I think means it can be 2feet off center for a 6 foot screen.

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paradigm -- The HD250 does not have the lens shift range of the Pannasonics or Epsons (they are the lens shift kings). Woof Woof (this thread starter) has one, so he can verify that. In addition, the vertical lens shift is +/- 80%, AFIK.

Smarty-pants -- AFIK, the HD250 has a horizontally offset lens. It's basically the same physical package as the RS10. Only the more expensive RS40/50/60 have the new box with a centered lens.

To answer your question, from the "RS40, 50, 60 & HD250" thread, in the "Over $3K" Forum, The HD250 seems to have about the same calibrated (best mode) Lumen output as it's competition (Epson & Panasonic), so your existing screen should work just fine (you said a 2.35:1, ~100" wide).

One of our 2 resident JVC reps (or Woof Woof), should be able to verify that (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=473).

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paradigm -- In addition, the vertical lens shift is +/- 80%, AFIK.
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Is that 80% of screen height or 80% of screen diagonal?
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Is that 80% of screen height or 80% of screen diagonal?

80% of screen height.
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Cham313 -- Vertical lens shift is always given in reference to screen height. Horizontal lens shift is in reference to screen width. It doesn't really make any sense, in general, to specify those any other way. Also those are, I believe, only for a 16:9 screen (is that true, Gary or Chris?).

Also, the zero offset reference is with the lens center lined up with the center of the screen.

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