Originally Posted by kdog750
So the general concensus is that the 8500UB is better for black levels than the 8350 but you would need a dedicated theater room to notice?
No, actually the 8500 possess a different Multi'Layered Lens that allows for a level of brightness to be present while maintaining it's dynamic Contrast specifications much closer to what they are/should be. (200K:1)
Originally Posted by detroit1
the 8350 is a much better buy; keep in mind the 8350 uses the same inorganic panels that the 8500 does and it is brighter; better for sports and can be used in bigger variety of settings with great results and it's cheaper !!
In keeping with the above, the lack of the same lens the 8500 has makes the Dynamic CR of the 8350 only 50K:1. Given the same lens, the 8350 would most likely achieve 100K:1 (...purely speculative that....) but it's 400 extra Lumens would limit such gains beyond that, I'm certain.
The real advantage the 8350 has is it's brightness, and ability to perform well in a wider variety of settings. Using a High Contrast Gray surface can help deliver better Black Levels, but care must be taken to choose wisely. It doesn't take much additional "Gray" to make a significant difference in perceived Contrast, but also...it doesn't take very much above a certain level to affect the quality of the Colors and Whites as well.
It's all about balancing everything...Room...Lighting....PJ....Throw Distance....Screen surface. Nail them all and WoWser! Ya got it goin' on!
Make any real degree of compromise on any of the aforementioned and don't whine too loudly about the end result.
In short, the 8500 is the best choice if your Room's lighting and Wall/Ceiling colors are under control. All it needs then is a very light Gray surface to allow for a slight degree of low Ambient Light view-ability. Or if in a dedicated room with non-reflective surrounding surfaces, a good reference white Screen...Mfg or DIY, makes no difference.
Personally I love the 8350 and it's flexibility, and it's contrast is just fine for most normal Mortals.
But that's me....but excepting the "normal" business.