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the 8345 is an improvement on the 8350.
That's yet to be proven.

To be safe people should start looking at the Epson 3000, and not the 8350 / 8345.

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That's yet to be proven.

To be safe people should start looking at the Epson 3000, and not the 8350 / 8345.
Agreed. Except for the shorter throw and less lens shift, the hc3000 is an improvement over the 8350/45 in every other way. Brighter by far, better contrast, better motion handling, slightly better SDE, panel convergence controls, and maybe the best 3D on the market. A true no brainer. (Unless you really need more lens shift and throw)
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new topic? my 8350 has been great for a month or so,
but ive seen a new problem, when using zoom to fill my 120" screen ive noticed that the image is narrower at the top than the bottom, changed inputs, no difference, use the pattern, focus is good, not sure where to look for a solution, have tried auto iris on and off, thanks in advance for ideas
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new topic? my 8350 has been great for a month or so,
but ive seen a new problem, when using zoom to fill my 120" screen ive noticed that the image is narrower at the top than the bottom, changed inputs, no difference, use the pattern, focus is good, not sure where to look for a solution, have tried auto iris on and off, thanks in advance for ideas
Have you played with the angle its tilted on...higher vs lower?
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Have you played with the angle its tilted on...higher vs lower?
the only on purpose change I've made is lower the position of my screen for a better front seat row viewing, i've tried adjusting shift left and right and up an down, I guess I should check the level and plum of screen again
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The cure for keystone is lens angle and shift

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new topic? my 8350 has been great for a month or so,
but ive seen a new problem, when using zoom to fill my 120" screen ive noticed that the image is narrower at the top than the bottom, changed inputs, no difference, use the pattern, focus is good, not sure where to look for a solution, have tried auto iris on and off, thanks in advance for ideas
Image narrow at the top indicates the lens is aimed down. adjust the angle of the projector body slightly upward and use the vertical lens shift to place the image at the desired vertical elevation. Iterate that sequence until the keystone is eliminated. As your later post implies its also possible the the screen isn't plumb, but its less likely because people have a good natural sense of vertical and the screen is usually where a wall provides an additional vertical reference.
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Image narrow at the top indicates the lens is aimed down. adjust the angle of the projector body slightly upward and use the vertical lens shift to place the image at the desired vertical elevation. Iterate that sequence until the keystone is eliminated. As your later post implies its also possible the the screen isn't plumb, but its less likely because people have a good natural sense of vertical and the screen is usually where a wall provides an additional vertical reference.

yep, that was it, project was un level, a lot better now,, avs members are great thanks
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Not everything about the HC3000 is an improvement

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Agreed. Except for the shorter throw and less lens shift, the hc3000 is an improvement over the 8350/45 in every other way. Brighter by far, better contrast, better motion handling, slightly better SDE, panel convergence controls, and maybe the best 3D on the market. A true no brainer. (Unless you really need more lens shift and throw)
There are at least 3 reasons why a buyer might prefer the HC8350 to the HC3000 - a summary might be that some buyers find the product features added to the HC3000 to support the now moribund 3D fad increased the product cost significantly while some other desirable features were degraded.

The HC3000 is around 30% more expensive than the HC8350 ($1,200 vs $900).

The HC3000 has at best a couple of additional frames of input delay (fast), at worst over 100mS (fine) which is enough to noticeably degrade lip-sync. The 8350 is noted by gamers for its short input delay (aka lag) (according to projectorcentral and also my daughter and son-in-law who use their 8350 for gaming).

The HC3000 has noticable fan noise at full lamp power. (according to projectorcentral, the Epson spec for the HC3000 is 35dB, vs 28dB for the HC8350, neither should be noticeable unless seated close or in front of the projector and are less likely to be noticed if ceiling mounted)

The lens shift limits of the HC3000 are 60% V and 24% H of the image size, vs 96% V and 47% H for the HC8350. (only important if the availability of mounting positions is limited)

The zoom lens of the HC3000 is shorter than the HC8350, the throw limits for a 100" diagonal screen are 9'10" to 16', vs 9'10" to 20'10". (only important in a larger room)

Conversely, it should be added that the HC3000 accepts an optional USB wireless network interface, but the HC8350 can't.

Also the HC3000 supports 3D (glasses not included $100/ea OEM, $50/ea generic) but the HC8350 does not.

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I think Epson must have also spec'd out a different fan for the 8345 than is used in the 8350. The fan on this 8345 seems to be a bit louder than the one on my 8350 that I sold. Actually, I am on my second 8345, the first one also had the same fan noise which I had thought was a problematic fan so I asked Epson to exchange my 8345 for another new copy. At first the fan was pretty quiet but, just like on my first 8345, the fan has gotten a bit louder after 20-30 hours of usage. I'm now thinking that it was a waste of time to exchange the 8345 but now I know this is basically inherent to this model of projector.

Overall I'm still happy with the projector, however, I can see myself changing out this unit for something else in a few years as technology improves and the price for high quality unit continues to decrease.
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Hoping I'll be able to get some help with my current issue.
I've noticed that the brightness on my projector is shifting/changing on its own as of late. The brightness seems to decrease and be a touch dimmer then go back to being brighter a couple minutes or seconds later. It'll then be normal for a good duration then start up again for a bit. Not sure what is causing this. Is it a sign that the bulb is about to go or is starting to die? I'm close to 500 hours on my bulb, running it on eco mode.

Any insight would be appreciated.
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I think Epson must have also spec'd out a different fan for the 8345 than is used in the 8350. The fan on this 8345 seems to be a bit louder than the one on my 8350 that I sold. Actually, I am on my second 8345, the first one also had the same fan noise which I had thought was a problematic fan so I asked Epson to exchange my 8345 for another new copy. At first the fan was pretty quiet but, just like on my first 8345, the fan has gotten a bit louder after 20-30 hours of usage. I'm now thinking that it was a waste of time to exchange the 8345 but now I know this is basically inherent to this model of projector.

Overall I'm still happy with the projector, however, I can see myself changing out this unit for something else in a few years as technology improves and the price for high quality unit continues to decrease.
The Fan on the 8345 is definitely a little louder than the 8350. It's still quieter than the new hc3000 and 3500 by the way. I believe this is one of the tweaks from Epson's previous experience with the 8350 in order to prevent premature lamp burnouts.
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Hoping I'll be able to get some help with my current issue.
I've noticed that the brightness on my projector is shifting/changing on its own as of late. The brightness seems to decrease and be a touch dimmer then go back to being brighter a couple minutes or seconds later. It'll then be normal for a good duration then start up again for a bit. Not sure what is causing this. Is it a sign that the bulb is about to go or is starting to die? I'm close to 500 hours on my bulb, running it on eco mode.

Any insight would be appreciated.
After 500 hours it's normal for a lamp to get dimmer, but what you're experiencing is not normal. What you're describing does happen sometimes before lamps die, but 500 hours is way too early. If it does die, call Epson and demand a new lamp. 500 hours is premature to say the least.
However, it may be some sort of power fluctuation problem with the lamp running in ECO mode. Try NORMAL mode for awhile to see if the problem persists.
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