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post #61 of 8948 Old 10-01-2010, 08:29 PM
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How about the brightness? And what mode did you start with? Just take your time and tell us everything.

Brightness is awesome! Can see a decent pic with the lights on. I've left it in cinema mode and it looks really good to me like I said though once we get somebody to calibrate it,i think its really gonna shine.
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The real question is how does the Madden look you intended to play all day, LOL

Madden looks awesome the graphics are crap not the proj fault but madden on 126" is pretty sweet.
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Does the "motion detection" feature (page 38 of manual) have any noticeable effect?
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A few people asked about iris and fan noise.
I can tell you it is whisper quiet. No Iris noise.
I'm sitting right under the projector and cannot hear anything.
The Bulb mode is now called "Power Consumption". Normal and Eco choices.
I have the Bulb in Eco Mode and Cinema Color Mode chosen.
Just now I tried the other Color Modes such as Natural, Living Rm, and Dynamic and I still don't hear the fan.
To hear the fan I have to stand right in front of the projector where the heat comes out and take it out of Eco Mode and into Normal and then I hear the fan.
Even then it is still fairly quiet.
I have the audio muted now so that's pretty good.
With a movie playing even quiet sceens you won't hear it.
I could hear the fan with my Epson PLHC400 if I put it in any of the color modes above Theater Black. The 8350 is much quieter.
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With 2k lumens is this thing really brighter than the LG181d?
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With 2k lumens is this thing really brighter than the LG181d?

Calibrated correctly? I'd be surprised if it was, but I don't know.

Personally, and off topic, I'm still wondering why the 8700 is rated 400 lumens lower than the 8350 with the same bulb...unless it's targeted squarely at enthusiasts with completely light controlled rooms and these two projectors are more different than the 8100 and 8500 were.

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i am a 720HC owner and just bought a new bulb for mine....

but this price point is almost identical to what i paid for the 720HC almost 1 1/2 years ago.

This definitely has my interest.


I must have a white cabinet PJ as it is the only way it looks decent in a living room setup like mine.
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A few people asked about iris and fan noise.
I can tell you it is whisper quiet. No Iris noise.
I'm sitting right under the projector and cannot hear anything.
The Bulb mode is now called "Power Consumption". Normal and Eco choices.
I have the Bulb in Eco Mode and Cinema Color Mode chosen.
Just now I tried the other Color Modes such as Natural, Living Rm, and Dynamic and I still don't hear the fan.
To hear the fan I have to stand right in front of the projector where the heat comes out and take it out of Eco Mode and into Normal and then I hear the fan.
Even then it is still fairly quiet.
I have the audio muted now so that's pretty good.
With a movie playing even quiet sceens you won't hear it.
I could hear the fan with my Epson PLHC400 if I put it in any of the color modes above Theater Black. The 8350 is much quieter.

eddie are you usimg a white or grey screen?

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Ok, for hdmi 1080p 24/30/50/60hz

and it's at amazon

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eddie are you usimg a white or grey screen?

Not Grey.
I'm using a Da-Lite Model B with CSR.
It's Matte White and I think the Gain is 1.0.
And it's 106" diagonal screen.
My throw is just under 12'.
Can't do a bigger screen at this distance.
I tried one of those Optoma GrayWolf screens awhile back.
I think I had the Panasonic AE900U at the time.
It did help with blacks and contrast.
But I thought it made the colors a little muddy.
Didn't like it. Still have it though.
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Ok, for hdmi 1080p 24/30/50/60hz

and it's at amazon

It is still only through 3rd party Via amazon.com right now. I have already purchased a $1300 Gift Gard @ amazon and will get back $150 through rewards and the gift card promotion right now .

I am just waiting for Amazon.com itself to get stock. Oh yeah, and I have prime so 1 day shipping
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Not Grey.
I'm using a Da-Lite Model B with CSR.
It's Matte White and I think the Gain is 1.0.
And it's 106" diagonal screen.
My throw is just under 12'.
Can't do a bigger screen at this distance.
I tried one of those Optoma GrayWolf screens awhile back.
I think I had the Panasonic AE900U at the time.
It did help with blacks and contrast.
But I thought it made the colors a little muddy.
Didn't like it. Still have it though.

How would you compare this Epson to the 900 you had?

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How would you compare this Epson to the 900 you had?

I have not used the AE900U in a really long time.
Picture went Red on me a couple of years back.
I bought an Epson HC400 after the AE900U and before the 8350.
Just moving from 720p to 1080p is quite a noticable difference.
And to my eyes this 8350 is a huge improvement.
Makes the whites on my previous Pj look yellow in comparison.
It's much brighter, blacks are way better, and colors pop more.
I notice a lot more fine detail in the image especially with Blu Ray.
I don't think you would notice the difference between 720p and 1080p as much on a small screen as you do with a projector and large screen.
Don't forget, a 720p frame has roughly about 1 million pixels.
Compared to it, a 1080p frame has 2 million pixels.
You are seeing twice the amount of pixels now.
I really notice the difference when I use my Mac Pro.
The text was a little small at first but you can adjust that.
But the image, especially when I play a 1080p movie trailer with Quicktime is just amazing.
Once seen you will never go back.
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I have not used the AE900U in a really long time.
Picture went Red on me a couple of years back.
I bought an Epson HC400 after the AE900U and before the 8350.
Just moving from 720p to 1080p is quite a noticable difference.
And to my eyes this 8350 is a huge improvement.
Makes the whites on my previous Pj look yellow in comparison.
It's much brighter, blacks are way better, and colors pop more.
I notice a lot more fine detail in the image especially with Blu Ray.
I don't think you would notice the difference between 720p and 1080p as much on a small screen as you do with a projector and large screen.
Don't forget, a 720p frame has roughly about 1 million pixels.
Compared to it, a 1080p frame has 2 million pixels.
You are seeing twice the amount of pixels now.
I really notice the difference when I use my Mac Pro.
The text was a little small at first but you can adjust that.
But the image, especially when I play a 1080p movie trailer with Quicktime is just amazing.
Once seen you will never go back.

Thanks for the input.

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With 2k lumens is this thing really brighter than the LG181d?

Highly, highly doubt it. Remember that the LG is rated at 2500 which it doesn't achieve pre or post calibration. The 8350 is similar to the 8100 in terms of lumens. Calibrated the 8100 produced something like 460 lumens in best mode (Theater 1/normal lamp) and 340ish in low lamp in best mode mid zoom and 560 in normal lamp mode at wide angle (zoom out). The 8350 won't produce substantially more.

The LG when calibrated produced lumens in the mid-800s.

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Would this screen work for the 8350. Room is roughly 15x25x8 seating first row around 10 ft back projector would be 15 ft or so back ceiling mounted. There is a front stage area picture in my profile. Elite TE120HW2-A1080 CineTension2 Acoustic Series - 120" Diag. (58.8"x104.5") - Tensioned Electric Screen - 16:9 HDTV Format - 1.0 Gain - A1080 Material with Black Case - Includes IR & RF Remote Controls and 3-Way Wall Switch

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according to projectorcentral the projector has Anamorphic Ready! Is that true?

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according to projectorcentral the projector has Anamorphic Ready! Is that true?

I can only find the anamorphic ready mode confirmed for the 8700.

The screen shots posted look amazing for a $1200 projector, I didn't expect that at all (hope it's not the camera making the images look blacker etc.).

Also would love to hear anything about gaming on this, lag/delay. I'm guessing they didn't include a game mode to disable video processing?

Last, is this a plastic or glass lens?
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Last, is this a plastic or glass lens?

The OptiCinema lens system is a precision, high-quality,
optical grade system. Co-developed with Fujinon, a
top supplier of precision camera optics to the world’s
leading HD camera makers, this system offers excellent
picture uniformity and clarity across the screen. This lens
system also provides precision focus with a 2.1x zoom
ratio. And, it delivers maximum installation flexibility with
96% vertical and 47% horizontal lens shift (without image
distortion).
Taken from....
http://www.epson.com/cmc_upload/0/00..._ProdSpecs.pdf

It doesnt say specifically but I am guessing optical grade would be glass.

I looked at the users manual too and it doesnt say anything about a gaming mode.
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/p.../plhc87uug.pdf
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Hello.

I have a question about the new Epson projectors (namely the one posted), does this projector offer a V stretch mode? I have a DIY lens and have been watching movies in my Infocus x10, which lacking that feature would be a deal breaker for me (until I get an oppo). I am also interested if they still offered the ultra bright "dynamic" modes, since I heard they can go up to 2000 "real" lumens while looking good, which I may plan on making a large screen (some say it can power 25 foot wide screens).

An answer to this question would be greatly appreaciated. The projector should just offer a picture mode that stretches the image to fill it up for scope (2.35:1) films. I am not interested in the zoom method.

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For someone looking to watch a good amount of sports, and play video games on a PJ, how big a deal is it that this PJ is only 60hz?

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EddieB...what kind of screen to you have? Thanks...

Sorry I didn't see your question in the title and the thread moved to page two.
I'm using a Da-Lite Model B with CSR.
It's Matte White and I think the Gain is 1.0.
And it's 106" diagonal screen.
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For someone looking to watch a good amount of sports, and play video games on a PJ, how big a deal is it that this PJ is only 60hz?

Well I have played video games semi-professionally on a 60Hz tv's/monitors for years. I am still not sold on 120Hz. I would just ensure that the input lag is not horrible on the projector. The 8100 was fine on this. I have not seen any tests yet on the input lag of the 8350.
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Anyone have any input lag numbers for the 8350? I'm assuming that it uses the same Pixelworks PW392 processor in the 8100, which would give around 30-40ms of lag (from others' measurements). I'm planning on using this PJ mainly for video games, so every millisecond counts.

Anyone have an answer for this? I'm wondering the same thing. (it's understandable that the people who have this projector right now don't have equipment to do accurate tests though)
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If there are any 8350 owners out there who also owned 8100. Can you please make a comparison? I just ordered 8350 and will be here on friday but I found clearance sale 8100 for less than $1000. is it worth extra $200? I paid $1199 for 8350. blacks and picture is better? I could save little more with 8100 but I think they have a bulb issue. 2 of them I owned bulb blow up within 700-800 hours even though I cleaned the filters always.
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If there are any 8350 owners out there who also owned 8100. Can you please make a comparison? I just ordered 8350 and will be here on friday but I found clearance sale 8100 for less than $1000. is it worth extra $200? I paid $1199 for 8350. blacks and picture is better? I could save little more with 8100 but I think they have a bulb issue. 2 of them I owned bulb blow up within 700-800 hours even though I cleaned the filters always.

Its worth the extra money in the panels alone. Your getting Inorganic D7 panels (same ones used in the better 6500/8500ub projectors, the 8100 has Organic panels that are not D7.
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Thanks buddy. I can't wait to power it up
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According to epson.com - # Compatible with 4:3 and 16:9 video formats (with anamorphic lens and scaler) with Normal, Full or Zoom Modes

so it has anamorphic lens! Please can someone record video how this lens working?

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If there are any 8350 owners out there who also owned 8100. Can you please make a comparison? I just ordered 8350 and will be here on friday but I found clearance sale 8100 for less than $1000. is it worth extra $200? I paid $1199 for 8350. blacks and picture is better? I could save little more with 8100 but I think they have a bulb issue. 2 of them I owned bulb blow up within 700-800 hours even though I cleaned the filters always.

Please relate where you got the 8350 for $1199.00????

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According to epson.com - # Compatible with 4:3 and 16:9 video formats (with anamorphic lens and scaler) with Normal, Full or Zoom Modes

so it has anamorphic lens! Please can someone record video how this lens working?

No Vao....

It has a feature that makes it work well "With the addition of" an anamorphic lens.

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