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Thanks so much to posts like the ones from Protonus and Tesla 1856 concerning fans and the dreaded temp shutdown issue. I'm having that issue now and have pulled the projector apart to find all four fans. They all four work when voltage is applied so I wondered if anyone could advise how to further troubleshoot. I've searched the web trying to find some info on these fans such as normal resistance to try to determine which fan is the potential culprit.

Also, can anyone tell me how to check the temp sensors to eliminate them as the issue as opposed to a fan?

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Arrow Lamp Replacement

After 5 years and 1515 hours, the original lamp in my 8350 is starting to flicker. Temporarily dropping back to ECO-Mode helps, but only a little.


Put off by the poor reviews on all the "cloned" lamps on Amazon, I just ordered another genuine lamp from Epson.com (with free next-day delivery). Only other place I would trust for a genuine lamp is B&H Photo & Video. If I get anywhere near 5yrs/1515hours with the next one, I'll be happy.


Poor reviews of $20-$150 lamps on Amazon (and other places) including things like dim output, wrong colors, beeping, various picture abnormalities, and early failures (some violent).


I don't know about you guys, but I want the projector to operate as close to new as possible. The target is to produce a perfect picture at 2000-Lumens in both color and white-light output. I think to get exactly this ... we need the exact lamp the 8350 was designed to use.
Genuine Lamp: 200w Ultra High Efficiency E-TORL (Epson Twin Optimized Reflection Lamp) ELPLP49
- Part # V13H010L49


I think $250-$300 is a fair price for this lamp. I've always been a firm believer that you get what you pay for. I have a feeling the cheap lamps are different somehow. A cheap 150w bulb from China, not a true TORL, or who knows what corners they cut.

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If anyones still looking for it this is the total breakout diagram of the projector

https://compassmicro.com/media/wysiw...loded-diag.pdf
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If anyones still looking for it this is the total breakout diagram of the projector

https://compassmicro.com/media/wysiw...loded-diag.pdf
Thanks. Saved that for sure.


BTW, I replaced my lamp with genuine $300 lamp from Epson.


Flickering is gone.
Brightness is back (back to running in ECO, even in non-light-controlled multi-use room).
Picture is perfect ... like new.

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After 5 years and 1515 hours, the original lamp in my 8350 is starting to flicker. Temporarily dropping back to ECO-Mode helps, but only a little.


Put off by the poor reviews on all the "cloned" lamps on Amazon, I just ordered another genuine lamp from Epson.com (with free next-day delivery). Only other place I would trust for a genuine lamp is B&H Photo & Video. If I get anywhere near 5yrs/1515hours with the next one, I'll be happy.


Poor reviews of $20-$150 lamps on Amazon (and other places) including things like dim output, wrong colors, beeping, various picture abnormalities, and early failures (some violent).


I don't know about you guys, but I want the projector to operate as close to new as possible. The target is to produce a perfect picture at 2000-Lumens in both color and white-light output. I think to get exactly this ... we need the exact lamp the 8350 was designed to use.
Genuine Lamp: 200w Ultra High Efficiency E-TORL (Epson Twin Optimized Reflection Lamp) ELPLP49
- Part # V13H010L49


I think $250-$300 is a fair price for this lamp. I've always been a firm believer that you get what you pay for. I have a feeling the cheap lamps are different somehow. A cheap 150w bulb from China, not a true TORL, or who knows what corners they cut.
So did you buy an original bulb, if so, how is it performing?
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So did you buy an original bulb, if so, how is it performing?
Yes, $300 genuine OEM from Epson.com (with free shipping) ... Looked identical to the original one (black plastic holder, bulb, etc.) and had the small round genuine Epson sticker on it.


Working Perfectly.


Flickering is gone.
Brightness is back (back to running in ECO-Mode, even in non-light-controlled multi-use room).
Picture is perfect ... like new.


B&H Photo has them for $250 but you have to pay shipping. My guess is those are genuine also.


Been cleaning the original air-filter with air-compressor all these years, so I went ahead and installed a new one also.

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I've found it on ProjectorPeople for $245 with free shipping right now (http://www.projectorpeople.com/Epson...ccessory/24204) or at B&H for $235 (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._Lamp_for.html). Might be worth a shot

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Quick question, I've had my 8350 for a few years now and got over 3000 hours on the first bulb. A new aftermarket bulb uis working well but now I'm getting the auto-iris error message about once every 20 startups. I've tried searching but as far as I know there's still no solution other than breaking down the projector.

Am I correct in my assumption and should I continue looking for a replacement?
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Has anyone made a hush box for their 8350?
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Im only at about 1,300 hours but I have had my 8350 for 3 years. I use to get random brightness changes in ECO mode but that went away with using normal mode. Now I get it with normal mode also. It probably gets brighter every 60 seconds or so. AutoIris has been off since I got the unit. Is it bulb time?
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Im only at about 1,300 hours but I have had my 8350 for 3 years. I use to get random brightness changes in ECO mode but that went away with using normal mode. Now I get it with normal mode also. It probably gets brighter every 60 seconds or so. AutoIris has been off since I got the unit. Is it bulb time?


Yes, I would say try a new lamp unless you would rather upgrade to a new projector. A new lamp fixed the flickering on mine. Read back a few pages to see my repair adventure. Yes, I mostly keep Auto-Iris OFF on mine also since new (seems to work fine without it).
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Yes, I would say try a new lamp unless you would rather upgrade to a new projector. A new lamp fixed the flickering on mine. Read back a few pages to see my repair adventure. Yes, I mostly keep Auto-Iris OFF on mine also since new (seems to work fine without it).
The issue with getting a new projector is I don't know if anything out has the same lens shift swing of this. I have a very peculiar setup where the projector shines through a hole in the wall and has to aim WAY down to hit my screen.

Do the newer epson's have the same range as the 8350?
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has anyone found the speaker that beeps due to non-oem bulbs? I just want to stab the thing with an ice pick.
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Thanks for the Schematic Mach250

Thanks for the schematic.
After 4 years....I had to unzip my E P S O N..... to address 'dust issues'.
I used an air compressor
AFTER a thorough dry-vacuuming.
Quality is better....but not 100%
Your PDF is as good as titties and beer.

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has anyone found the speaker that beeps due to non-oem bulbs? I just want to stab the thing with an ice pick.
Funny, I just discovered this issue myself. Bought this bulb:
[AVSforum won't let me post a link]

Took the projector apart, did the dust glob fix for the first time, and replaced the lamp. Upon startup, brightness and picture were awesome. Then immediately I start noticing the BEEP. Thinking I'm crazy, bring my wife over to confirm and she can hear it as well.

We start watching a movie and doing loud scenes you cannot hear it, but when it is quiet the BEEP is driving me crazy. Put the OEM bulb back in and BEEP is gone.

What is the damn fix for this? There has to be some little speaker on the mainboard producing the noise. Can we turn it off?
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Anyone who has gotten the Auto-Iris error, have you actually gotten rid of it for good? I have gotten it 2 time now since yesterday and worried I'm going to have to start looking for a new projector.

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Anyone who has gotten the Auto-Iris error, have you actually gotten rid of it for good? I have gotten it 2 time now since yesterday and worried I'm going to have to start looking for a new projector.
Guess not. If I turn off the Auto-Iris when I get it on it doesn't come up again when again, which seems odd. So now I'm going to sell it.

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Guess not. If I turn off the Auto-Iris when I get it on it doesn't come up again when again, which seems odd. So now I'm going to sell it.


Please say that again, maybe in two sentences?

I've never gotten the Auto-Iris Error.

It seem to work fine with the Auto-Iris off. With it off, I don't need to worry about getting the "Auto-Iris Error" ... right?

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Please say that again, maybe in two sentences?

I've never gotten the Auto-Iris Error.

It seem to work fine with the Auto-Iris off. With it off, I don't need to worry about getting the "Auto-Iris Error" ... right?
Sorry about that. When the Auto-Iris is turned on, when it boots up I get the Auto-Iris error. Lately when I turn the Auto-Iris off the error on boot up hasn't come up. I'm saying that's odd as I thought I remember someone stating that it goes through the initial test on boot up and that is one of the things that gets tested.

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Sorry about that. When the Auto-Iris is turned on, when it boots up I get the Auto-Iris error. Lately when I turn the Auto-Iris off the error on boot up hasn't come up. I'm saying that's odd as I thought I remember someone stating that it goes through the initial test on boot up and that is one of the things that gets tested.
Thanks. That answers my question.

In your case ... yours is the perfect test because yours is going out. Maybe it's just intermittent? Maybe it needs some grease or cleaning (not really sure how Auto-Iris mechanism is built or how it works). I assume you find a big difference with it operational, and since yours is bad, you would rather buy a new projector ... rather than just leaving it off?

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Thanks. That answers my question.

In your case ... yours is the perfect test because yours is going out. Maybe it's just intermittent? Maybe it needs some grease or cleaning (not really sure how Auto-Iris mechanism is built or how it works). I assume you find a big difference with it operational, and since yours is bad, you would rather buy a new projector ... rather than just leaving it off?
I have cleaned it. The unit only has just over 300hrs on it. I'm not really wanting to rip this thing apart. If I could leave it off then sure I would rather but that doesn't necessarily going to say that it won't happen again. I already purchased a new unit to replace it. So either way I'm selling the unit.

Update: I just checked the settings again and the Auto-Iris is off. after about 30 minutes I went back to start it up again and the Auto-Iris error came up.

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Update: I just checked the settings again and the Auto-Iris is off. after about 30 minutes I went back to start it up again and the Auto-Iris error came up.
So, it DOES get checked on Start-Up, whether it's on or off. More good info. but an unfortunate situation for you.

What make/model did you replace it with?


Edit: So, you replaced it with a Sony VPL-HW45es ?

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So, it DOES get checked on Start-Up, whether it's on or off. More good info. but an unfortunate situation for you.

What make/model did you replace it with?


Edit: So, you replaced it with a Sony VPL-HW45es ?
Yes, I replaced it with the Sony VPL-HW45ES.

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Has anyone made a hush box for their 8350?
Eco Mode is virtually inaudible at 22 db. And Normal is just 28 db. Unless you use "High Altitude Mode" or the PJ is stationed within 3' of your head (...or you have Owl Ears...and some do...) I cannot fathom why you might need / want a Hush Box?

I cannot remember seeing anyone even bring that up in the 6 years since I started this Thread. In fact, for many, the quietness of the 8350 was always a much appreciated virtue, second only to the ultra low Lag Time.

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I like the brightness of normal mode. For very quiet scenes I can hear it. I've built a hush box, and dampened the sound.
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Just bought one of these off Ebay for $225 which was listed as "Working but dim" with original box, remote, manuals, Etc. so I went ahead and took a gamble on purchasing it.

Arrived today and worked but "dim" as described.

Went into the service menu and it showed 2231 hours total use, 1 lamp replacement and 487 hours on that bulb.

Let it cool down, checked inside and just as I expected, cheap knockoff bulb.

Popped in an OEM Epson lamp and *Ta-Da*.. Perfect image, nice and bright.

Very happy with the picture. Not quite up to the image that my 8500UB puts out in my dedicated theater but this 8350 will be replacing my old Epson 1080 (non-UB) in the living room so it will be a nice upgrade overall for that non-light controlled space.
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Eco Mode is virtually inaudible at 22 db. And Normal is just 28 db. Unless you use "High Altitude Mode" or the PJ is stationed within 3' of your head (...or you have Owl Ears...and some do...) I cannot fathom why you might need / want a Hush Box?

I cannot remember seeing anyone even bring that up in the 6 years since I started this Thread. In fact, for many, the quietness of the 8350 was always a much appreciated virtue, second only to the ultra low Lag Time.
I agree on the low noise levels that came from it. In our old house we had it right above where we sat hanging from the mount and never had any sound issues. When I framed out the basement I made a box for the projector (and future ones) so it was closed off. I like the clean look of a box instead of it hanging and any wires showing.
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Fan issue

Quick Question:

My 8350 fan seems to have failed. I ve researched some of the pages on this thread, sorry if its been answered but it is 300 pages deep. I learned that there are 4 fans, air inlet, power supply, lamp blower fan and exhaust fan. The one that seems to have gone is the loudest one. The projector turns on, and runs for a little and then overheats and shuts down. Now if I shut it down before it overheats, it just turns off. I know the fan always kicked on after I turned it off, as a cool down period. but now there is no fan noise after it shuts down. The exhaust fan seems to work as it blows hot air out. I cant tell if its the air inlet (best way to test?)


Again, it seems to be the fan that stays on after the unit shuts down. Which one would be my best bet and how hard is it to fix? I ve fixed tons of iPhones and other electronics so i am sure I can handle this but is it worth my time?

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