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post #9241 of 9308 Old 01-04-2017, 06:11 AM
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Is this projector still worth considering in 2017? I just bought a house with a finished basement, which I'm planning on turning into a theater room. I have a total light control in the room. Screen is going to be about 100 inches. Probably going to ceiling mount whatever projector I go with. I like the high contrast ratio and lens shift flexibility this projector offers, compared against a new projector in this price range.
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Is this projector still worth considering in 2017? I just bought a house with a finished basement, which I'm planning on turning into a theater room. I have a total light control in the room. Screen is going to be about 100 inches. Probably going to ceiling mount whatever projector I go with. I like the high contrast ratio and lens shift flexibility this projector offers, compared against a new projector in this price range.


I think it is a great starter projector at this point considering its age. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 5040UB myself and would be willing to sell my 8350 with an unused bulb (aftermarket) for $450 + shipping. PM me if you're interested.
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An unused aftermarket bulb is not that comforting.
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An unused aftermarket bulb is not that comforting.
I'm not sure I understand the animosity towards after market bulbs. I've had this bulb: [V13H010L49] from projectorlampsworld.com for over 3 years now and it's been great. I paid $150 at the time for it and now it's down to $89. I don't know how many hours are on it, but I could check when I get home if people are curious. About 2 months ago it did start flickering, but instead of immediately replacing it I continued using it and the flickering went away. I wonder if some people just replace the moment they see flickering and don't give it a chance. Regardless I'm happy with 3 years for half the price of the OEM.
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I'm not sure I understand the animosity towards after market bulbs. I've had this bulb: [V13H010L49] from projectorlampsworld.com for over 3 years now and it's been great. I paid $150 at the time for it and now it's down to $89. I don't know how many hours are on it, but I could check when I get home if people are curious. About 2 months ago it did start flickering, but instead of immediately replacing it I continued using it and the flickering went away. I wonder if some people just replace the moment they see flickering and don't give it a chance. Regardless I'm happy with 3 years for half the price of the OEM.
"Animosity" is a bit strong. The fact is that many users on this forum have tried non OEM bulbs...some with limited success, some with abysmal failure. So it's a flip of the coin which is a bit of a gamble IMHO.
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The aftermarket bulbs for the Epson 8350 are fine, maybe a little less bright, but you can play with settings and picture quality will still be just as good! That being said, I think $450 + shipping is a bit steep for how old the projector is. A buddy of mine just picked one up for $200 recently (with the original OEM bulb and 400 hours on it). This was a crazy good deal though.
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NEED HELP ON MY 8350!

Everything was working well until I hooked the PJ on a refurb Pioneer sc 80 that was replacing my old Denon. It was working just fine on the number 1 output on the receiver when I started, then I tried to hook it up on the zone 2 out when it started having problems. So TV is on output 1 and projector was on output 2, but when I tried to switch from TV to projector the receiver just got stuck to "please wait.." for a few minutes. I turned off the pioneer avr then tried to switch back the projector to output 1, thinking output 2 is faulty, but it gave me the "no signal" message. I thought it was the cable at fault, so I tried to connect by WD media player and xbox one directly to the EPSON and it worked.

I thought it was the pioneer at fault so I hooked it up to my old Denon, then the same message "no signal" came up. So the PJ stopped being able to receive signal though my DENON and Pioneer all of a sudden.

Funny thing is the projector wouldn't work directly from an AVR, cable box (Fios), or my PS 3. But would connect to the x box 1 s and WD media player. I eliminated the HDMI as faulty. I don't know if trying to output on number 2 on the pioneer sc 80 damaged the Epson HDMI board some way.

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NEED HELP ON MY 8350!

Everything was working well until I hooked the PJ on a refurb Pioneer sc 80 that was replacing my old Denon. It was working just fine on the number 1 output on the receiver when I started, then I tried to hook it up on the zone 2 out when it started having problems. So TV is on output 1 and projector was on output 2, but when I tried to switch from TV to projector the receiver just got stuck to "please wait.." for a few minutes. I turned off the pioneer avr then tried to switch back the projector to output 1, thinking output 2 is faulty, but it gave me the "no signal" message. I thought it was the cable at fault, so I tried to connect by WD media player and xbox one directly to the EPSON and it worked.

I thought it was the pioneer at fault so I hooked it up to my old Denon, then the same message "no signal" came up. So the PJ stopped being able to receive signal though my DENON and Pioneer all of a sudden.

Funny thing is the projector wouldn't work directly from an AVR, cable box (Fios), or my PS 3. But would connect to the x box 1 s and WD media player. I eliminated the HDMI as faulty. I don't know if trying to output on number 2 on the pioneer sc 80 damaged the Epson HDMI board some way.


To test HDMI ports on Epson 8350 Projector ...


Connect known-good HDMI component (Blu-Ray player, etc.) directly to 8350 with short (around 10 ft) high quality (heavy gauge) HDMI cable (non-generic, spec-ed at 1.3b or 1.4, non-Redmere). Test both HDMI ports while you are at it. It's old-school, but I always power-down stuff while connecting even HDMI cables.

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To test HDMI ports on Epson 8350 Projector ...


Connect known-good HDMI component (Blu-Ray player, etc.) directly to 8350 with short (around 10 ft) high quality (heavy gauge) HDMI cable (non-generic, spec-ed at 1.3b or 1.4, non-Redmere). Test both HDMI ports while you are at it. It's old-school, but I always power-down stuff while connecting even HDMI cables.

Thanks. I tried to connect WD media player and the Xbox to the projector directly and it works either with a long hdmi or a short hdmi. All of a suddent the projector wouldn't get any signal to from any kind of AV receiver. I have a feeling that when I used the hdzone 2 on the pioneer that it somehow jacked up my HDMI board--since it got stuck to "pls wait" for minutes without doing anything when I tried to switch output sources.
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Thanks. I tried to connect WD media player and the Xbox to the projector directly and it works either with a long hdmi or a short hdmi.


Good. Then HDMI board should still be good (ie, it survived).

If that failed to work, I would continue by trying:
1. Reset 8350 to Factory defaults
2. Turn off HDMI-CEC on all connected components.

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Question Fixed sliding filter got off color

Hello epson gurus of the world

I have an epson 8350 which turns on but when we switch color modes, it fails with two red leds blinking.

I thought it was the auto iris, and took it apart, cleaned and lubricated it twice, before i found out it was not the iris, it was a sliding thing just behind it.

Took that one out, carefully cleaned it , lubricated it and re insterted it.

The first two times i did the iris cleanup the colors were perfect, but the proyector failed.
The last time i cleaned this sliding filter, now the colors are off ... but it has not failed.. So i fixed one issue and created another.

Im pretty sure i seated everything as I should but i see everything in magenta-ish see attached images.
I can see the three LCDs light up, green red blue, at firts i thought i had missed a ribbon cable, but nope.

Any idea what i did wrong? all pointers and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Where does everyone buy their replacement bulbs and what's a good price?
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I just took my 8350 apart to try and find the Auto Iris as I have been getting that error on startups. I found the Auto Iris motor and gears, cleaned them up, and tested. Seems to be working fine now after doing about 10 startups. Hopefully it sticks as I do plan on selling it in the next few days.

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I just took my 8350 apart to try and find the Auto Iris as I have been getting that error on startups. I found the Auto Iris motor and gears, cleaned them up, and tested. Seems to be working fine now after doing about 10 startups. Hopefully it sticks as I do plan on selling it in the next few days.
Good work.

No pics? Did you re-lube with maybe plastic-safe silicone grease or oil?

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Good work.

No pics? Did you re-lube with maybe plastic-safe silicone grease or oil?
Sorry no pictures of what I did as I wasn't really sure what I was looking for. I had to take the circuit board off and the Auto Iris is right next to the Lamp. It has 3 screws that come out, has a round motor (All parts are gray), and has a shutter. I checked the gears but that seemed fine so I cleaned the grease and put new silicone grease on it.

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I simply look for the best priced Lamp that also comes with a 180 day Warranty. They are very inexpensive...and for the price of one Epson Lamp you can purchase 3-4 of the OEM'ers.

If they have that Warranty, your risk factor is minute.....
.......aggravation tax? Perhaps a bit more likely, but usually the 180 day'ers are better than the 90 Day Wonders

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I prefer a genuine Epson lamp from Epson.com or B&H Photo. Should be around $250-$300. 8350 works perfectly again. Look one page back.

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I simply look for the best priced Lamp that also comes with a 180 day Warranty. They are very inexpensive...and for the price of one Epson Lamp you can purchase 3-4 of the OEM'ers.

If they have that Warranty, your risk factor is minute.....
.......aggravation tax? Perhaps a bit more likely, but usually the 180 day'ers are better than the 90 Day Wonders
Did you find that with non-OEM lamp, the projector makes a faint high pitch periodic noise? I went through two non-Epson lamps with the same annoying behavior. i remember reading somewhere that it could be somethinng built-in with the motherboard that recognizes when the lamp is not genuine. Anyhow, it is weak enough that I can get accustomed to but I'd prefer that it wasn't present.

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I purchased new in 2010 and just had my first lamp failure last night. I bought a genuine Epson lamp from B&H Photo, hopefully it will arrive later this week. I continue to be blown away at the picture this puts out - I have recently completed a renovation and now have a dedicated 12 x 14 light-controlled theater room in my basement, Guests are blown away by the picture as well. I keep getting the itch to upgrade to an Epson or JVC eShift projector but am having a hard time believing that the increase in picture quality will be worth the $2500 (Epson 5040UB) - $5500 (JVC RS520).
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So I need to know how to get to the lens inside the outer focusing lens to clean it. Here are some shots of what has been developing over the last few months.
Just blurs the right side and makes it hazy and adds that green shadow on high contrast scenes.





I had thought it was on the outside since my projector is located right around the corner from my kitchen and I know that smoke and grease can build up. But this has made it inside the lens assembly. Any clue is appreciated.
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I purchased new in 2010 and just had my first lamp failure last night. I bought a genuine Epson lamp from B&H Photo, hopefully it will arrive later this week. I continue to be blown away at the picture this puts out - I have recently completed a renovation and now have a dedicated 12 x 14 light-controlled theater room in my basement, Guests are blown away by the picture as well. I keep getting the itch to upgrade to an Epson or JVC eShift projector but am having a hard time believing that the increase in picture quality will be worth the $2500 (Epson 5040UB) - $5500 (JVC RS520).
New OEM lens from B&H installed and it is running great. Also cleaned the air filter. I do really like this projector!
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Focus ring removal

I have two 8350 projectors. Each with issues but one is missing the focus ring. Seems to be working as it should but has a out of focus picture. I cannot figure out how to remove the focus ring from my other unit.
Also were can I find another ring for a reasonable price. The second unit was working great until the screen turned to a deep blue tint.
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So I need to know how to get to the lens inside the outer focusing lens to clean it. Here are some shots of what has been developing over the last few months.
Just blurs the right side and makes it hazy and adds that green shadow on high contrast scenes.





I had thought it was on the outside since my projector is located right around the corner from my kitchen and I know that smoke and grease can build up. But this has made it inside the lens assembly. Any clue is appreciated.
It looks like the front of your lens might be permanently scratched. I think they are truly glass, but still scratch-able.

Just a reminder ... lens should only be cleaned with a 100% cotton optics-grade cleaning cloth. Gently with a bit of rubbing alcohol or eye-glass cleaning fluid.

It would have to be disassembled and cleaned like a fine DSLR Camera lens ... maybe by a professional.

I'm not sure that screen image is affected by a bit of dust. Like when we focus on and view screen, we don't focus on and see dust particles in the air. I wonder if your poor image quality might be some other malfunction.

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I have two 8350 projectors. Each with issues but one is missing the focus ring. Seems to be working as it should but has a out of focus picture. I cannot figure out how to remove the focus ring from my other unit.
Also were can I find another ring for a reasonable price. The second unit was working great until the screen turned to a deep blue tint.
Since the lens assembly is on a movable "lens shift track" I think I would just swap-in the good lens from the other projector.

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It looks like the front of your lens might be permanently scratched. I think they are truly glass, but still scratch-able.

Just a reminder ... lens should only be cleaned with a 100% cotton optics-grade cleaning cloth. Gently with a bit of rubbing alcohol or eye-glass cleaning fluid.

It would have to be disassembled and cleaned like a fine DSLR Camera lens ... maybe by a professional.

I'm not sure that screen image is affected by a bit of dust. Like when we focus on and view screen, we don't focus on and see dust particles in the air. I wonder if your poor image quality might be some other malfunction.
The outside lens isn't scratched I baby that thing. But yeah I imagine a lot of complex disassembly is required to get inside and clean the lens.
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Since the lens assembly is on a movable "lens shift track" I think I would just swap-in the good lens from the other projector.
Thanks. I will look up how to do that instead.
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The outside lens isn't scratched I baby that thing. But yeah I imagine a lot of complex disassembly is required to get inside and clean the lens.
Cool.

As for your image quality pic, try taking a picture with a real camera and a tripod. We might be able to troubleshoot better.

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Cool.

As for your image quality pic, try taking a picture with a real camera and a tripod. We might be able to troubleshoot better.
Its basically a green haze blob over 20% of the screen area, like as if a really bad smudge is on the lens. Just happened to form on the inside lens where the air is moving slowly. The projector is right around the corner from my kitchen so I imagine it is grease of some sort just gathered in there.
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Its basically a green haze blob over 20% of the screen area, like as if a really bad smudge is on the lens. Just happened to form on the inside lens where the air is moving slowly. The projector is right around the corner from my kitchen so I imagine it is grease of some sort just gathered in there.
Possibly. However, I thought abnormalities like that were related to one of the 3LCD lcds, their lenses, or other primary color optics.

Find the pics or diagrams of how it works and I think you will see what I mean.

Some have reported that "dust balls" in one of those primary paths cause similar, IIRC.

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Onkyo TX-sr607 AVR ~ Cisco 8742hdc DVR (Spectrum) ~ Panasonic BD60 Blu-Ray Player
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Harmony 670 Remote ~ HTPC (Kodi/Win10-64) Media-Server ~ Synology DS412+ 16tb Raid-5 NAS
Polk Audio Monitor Series-II CS-2 Center & 60,40 Pairs / PSW-505 12-Inch Subwoofer
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Hello all,

My 8350 from 2011 has given me the cinema filter error message and now does not work. The projector is fine for my situation and I don't really have the cash to upgrade so I am wondering if anyone could point me to a link with enough detailed info that I could fix this. I have never had to open the pj but I am fairly handy with this sort of stuff.

Any help and pointers appreciated.
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