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If there are any 8350 owners out there who also owned 8100. Can you please make a comparison? I just ordered 8350 and will be here on friday but I found clearance sale 8100 for less than $1000. is it worth extra $200? I paid $1199 for 8350. blacks and picture is better? I could save little more with 8100 but I think they have a bulb issue. 2 of them I owned bulb blow up within 700-800 hours even though I cleaned the filters always.

Slightly OT, but where can the 8100 be had for under 1K?
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Slightly OT, but where can the 8100 be had for under 1K?

Reconditioned...perhaps. I've been scouring the Engines and forums for 8100's and other lessor cost Entry Level 1080p's or 720p units" and haven't found anything under $999.00 worth a Hoot ( Optoma HD-20s' notwithstanding )

I did see a Optoma unit called "120"...a re-badged-re-labeled HD-20 for $899.00 for sale yesterday at a popular "Member's Buying Club" that whose name must/will remain unmentioned.

Off Topic...even for the "Thread Starter? Nope...because if you can spend just $400.00 more and get 50K:1 contrast and 2K lumens with the 8350, where's the decision? better to wait if the price is the issue and save for a few more weeks. It's that good....and that big a difference performance and feature wise.

....with all due respect due to any/all HD-20 owners. Of course.

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Anyone see any issues pairing this projector with a 133" High Power screen?

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Anyone see any issues pairing this projector with a 133" High Power screen?

Keep it on "low lamp' and place the PJ optimally "height to viewing level" to maintain that brightness and avoid any potential lamp Hot Spotting.

Should look PDG!

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Keep it on "low lamp' and place the PJ optimally "height to viewing level" to maintain that brightness and avoid any potential lamp Hot Spotting.

Should look PDG!

Thanks. I'm using a smaller HP now, I just want to go bigger and get a new projector to go along with it.

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its Monday, and PP SHOULD be getting my stock in today I hope. My new mount it ready to go. My HDMI inputs a positively buzzing (figuratively speaking) at the prospect. I've told them all to chill out but their excitement is clear.
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I'm pondering buying one of these. Any thoughts on screen choices? Am I better off with a laminate or some sort of paint?
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No Vao....

It has a feature that makes it work well "With the addition of" an anamorphic lens.

sorry......

neah... it was too good to be true
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just received an email from my contact at PP. their entire shipment of 8350 units was stolen on Friday. they stole the whole truck!

he assured me things were ok though because epson is now drop shipping my unit. who knew the mafia was so into projectors?!
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No Vao....

It has a feature that makes it work well "With the addition of" an anamorphic lens.

sorry......

I am getting confused here. I have been trying to ask about this, but does this projector feature a v stretch mode for anamorphic lens set ups (I DIY one) and would appreciate it if someone can give it to me straight. I am not interested in the zoom method or some other weird method.
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just received an email from my contact at PP. their entire shipment of 8350 units was stolen on Friday. they stole the whole truck!

he assured me things were ok though because epson is now drop shipping my unit. who knew the mafia was so into projectors?!

I cant help to wonder if this related in any way to the lower price of the 8350's a previous poster mentioned! These will have to show up somewhere!
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I am getting confused here. I have been trying to ask about this, but does this projector feature a v stretch mode for anamorphic lens set ups (I DIY one) and would appreciate it if someone can give it to me straight. I am not interested in the zoom method or some other weird method.

I have been wondering the same thing. In the manual it looks like the aspect ratio setting that is needed is called "Anamorphic Wide" but it also looks like it is only available on the 8700UB. Can anyone with a 8350 confirm if this setting exists on the 8350 or not?
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I am getting confused here. I have been trying to ask about this, but does this projector feature a v stretch mode for anamorphic lens set ups (I DIY one) and would appreciate it if someone can give it to me straight. I am not interested in the zoom method or some other weird method.

Let me clarify.

The V Stretch mode is ONLY a method that at first "Vertically distorts" the image, allowing for the correction of the opposite "Horizontal distortion" the A-Len's itself produces.

This essentially equalizes everything out to present a normal looking image.

There is no technical, software, or magical method employed by ANY PJ currently in the Consumer Domain that can actually transform 16:9 imagery into 2.35:1 without introducing a distorted image. Only expensive "out board" Image Processors can do that, and those items are not something to be construed as being affordable by any stretch.

To date, the only "Lens-less" options exist in those PJs that employ Lens Memory that simply adjusts Zoom and Lens Shift to allow the use of a 2.35:1 formatted Screen, so that 16:9 can be shown at the same "Height" as 2.35:1, and vice versa. ie: CHI = Constant Image Height.

This feature is more for the benefit of those wishing to see 2.35:1 / 2.39:1 content as WIDE as possible, and sacrificing potential extra screen width in 16:9 to do so. In 16:9, there will be Vertical "Bars" something FAR easier to deal with and Mask iut with Panels or Curtains. Horizontal Bars are way more difficult, and a primary reason those without a A-Lens or Lens Memory spend Beau-coup Bucks on Motorized Masking Systems, or make up imaginative DIY versions.

That is that...and it ain't ever gonna be otherwise until some PJ Mfg steps up and introduces the Hardware and Software required to do it "electronically".

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I cant help to wonder if this related in any way to the lower price of the 8350's a previous poster mentioned! These will have to show up somewhere!

If it is...it will come out when they try to register the warranty.

Owwwwww..........

Chances are the PJs just happened to be aboard a Truck that got snatched...they were not the Target themselves. In any case the Goodfellas involved will probably keep them entrenched firmly in the "Trunk-market" venue.

Hey Vinny! Wassammatter wit'cha? How's am'mI-a-gonna unload 'dese frickin' 'tings!

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Stolen!!!! Meh. PP is showing as in stock. So Epson must have flown them over or something. They'd better have anyway!

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Hey Vinny! Wassammatter wit'cha? How's am'mI-a-gonna unload 'dese frickin' 'tings!

More like...

"Hey Vinny - didn't cha mean to steal the 8700s? Don't you know they have better blacks and project pictures in ambient light more effectively"

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Stolen!!!! Meh. PP is showing as in stock. So Epson must have flown them over or something. They'd better have anyway!

The guy I spoke with said they were still expecting some in today or tomorrow (not counting the supposed stolen shipment), but I have no idea whether or not they actually have them there now.

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The guy I spoke with said they were still expecting some in today or tomorrow (not counting the supposed stolen shipment), but I have no idea whether or not they actually have them there now.

I need to call my contact then. I want mine to arrive soon.
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I need to call my contact then. I want mine to arrive soon.

Just called and mine is shipping out today! nice~
Glad that I returned my 8100 and get the new one. Although I got great price on that unit as an open item.

Update: Shipped via three-day shippin'.
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The best you can get ain't the most expensive...or the least. Just ideally suited for the 8350.

Chief #RPA 168 dedicated PJ ceiling Mount $139.00 @ PP or A/V Ignore the pricing on the Dell sheet.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6lid%3D1342490

Mated to : Peerless ACC 570
http://www.peerlessmounts.com/dyn/Pr...ct.aspx/sp/487 $29.00

Connect the two with Schedule 40 PVC 1-1/2" pipe w/Threaded Couplings Super neat and professional looking with interior Wire drop possible within the 1-1/2" Tube.

Just ordered the 8350, an RPA 168 mount, and Peerless ACC 570 ceiling plate from PP. MM, thanks for the mount/plate recommendation.

We are moving into our new home this week where I have a dedicated media room, so I'm hoping to have everything in hand, installed, and set up by Saturday for college football.

BTW, PP had 24 of the 8350 in stock when I ordered.
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Get yer Epsons here. $800, folks. They're worth $8350 -says so right on the box. I gotta truckload of these to shift.
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Let me clarify.

The V Stretch mode is ONLY a method that at first "Vertically distorts" the image, allowing for the correction of the opposite "Horizontal distortion" the A-Len's itself produces.

This essentially equalizes everything out to present a normal looking image.

There is no technical, software, or magical method employed by ANY PJ currently in the Consumer Domain that can actually transform 16:9 imagery into 2.35:1 without introducing a distorted image. Only expensive "out board" Image Processors can do that, and those items are not something to be construed as being affordable by any stretch.

To date, the only "Lens-less" options exist in those PJs that employ Lens Memory that simply adjusts Zoom and Lens Shift to allow the use of a 2.35:1 formatted Screen, so that 16:9 can be shown at the same "Height" as 2.35:1, and vice versa. ie: CHI = Constant Image Height.

This feature is more for the benefit of those wishing to see 2.35:1 / 2.39:1 content as WIDE as possible, and sacrificing potential extra screen width in 16:9 to do so. In 16:9, there will be Vertical "Bars" something FAR easier to deal with and Mask iut with Panels or Curtains. Horizontal Bars are way more difficult, and a primary reason those without a A-Lens or Lens Memory spend Beau-coup Bucks on Motorized Masking Systems, or make up imaginative DIY versions.

That is that...and it ain't ever gonna be otherwise until some PJ Mfg steps up and introduces the Hardware and Software required to do it "electronically".

Thank you for your response.

Yes I know that an anamorphic lens distorts the image the projector distorts to make it look correct. The reason I asked was that the older Epson projectors lacked a V stretch mode that was only available in their hgiher end models (but is present in most consumer projectors, even my dirt cheap Infocus x10). I was interested in the epson for their features they offer for a bargain (and inorganic panels are plus).
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Please relate where you got the 8350 for $1199.00????

Was that a Typo?

Electronics-expo.com
put it in the chart and write"DEALSOFAMERICA" and the price is even lower at $1165 right now.they have a storewide discount on everything so its not especially for Epson 8350

and for the Epson 8100 Bestbuy Stores are selling it on Clearance right now. even though it is not on sale on the website. go to a store and it is $970 some stores sell it for $1060 so you gotta tell them to match it with other Bestbuys. they can look at the price of the stores selling for $970 and you can go and buy from them or they will match it.
Good luck guys. I bought the 8350 for $1199 now it is for $1165. my luck
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Slightly OT, but where can the 8100 be had for under 1K?

Check out my other post
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Electronics-expo.com
put it in the chart and write"DEALSOFAMERICA" and the price is even lower at $1165 right now.they have a storewide discount on everything so its not especially for Epson 8350)

Dang, wish I had seen this a few days ago. Great deal!
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Dang, wish I had seen this a few days ago. Great deal!

electronics-expo lists not-in-stock goods as in-stock a lot. I won't be surprised if they email you after two days indicating that it'll be another week. It happened to me before.
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Electronics-expo.com
put it in the chart and write"DEALSOFAMERICA" and the price is even lower at $1165 right now.they have a storewide discount on everything so its not especially for Epson 8350)

I just checked out the promo code. In fact, the 8350 rung up for $1165.72! Since I haven't done business with them before, though, I decided to do my due diligence. I looked up Electronics Expo on the Better Business Bureau's site. I almost wish I hadn't. BBB gives them a grade of "C". I also noticed that others had complained about Electronics Expo advertising goods they don't have in stock, only to email them later, asking for confirmation that the buyer wanted to go ahead with a different unit (maybe the 8100?). I also read about buyers receiving defective merchandise and being charged a 20% restocking fee. I'd love to pick up the 8350 for $1165...I'm just a little unsure about an electronics store based in "JOYzee" with a crappy BBB rating. Anybody had good luck buying a PJ from them?
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Electronics-expo.com
put it in the chart and write"DEALSOFAMERICA" and the price is even lower at $1165 right now.they have a storewide discount on everything so its not especially for Epson 8350)

I just checked out the promo code. In fact, the 8350 rung up for $1165.72! Since I haven't done business with them before, though, I decided to do my due diligence. I looked up Electronics Expo on the Better Business Bureau's site. I almost wish I hadn't. BBB gives them a grade of "C". I also noticed that others had complained about Electronics Expo advertising goods they don't have in stock, only to email them later, asking for confirmation that the buyer wanted to go ahead with a different unit (maybe the 8100?). I also read about buyers receiving defective merchandise and being charged a 20% restocking fee. I'd love to pick up the 8350 for $1165...I'm just a little unsure about an electronics store based in "JOYzee" with a crappy BBB rating. Anybody had good luck buying a PJ from them?

i've not done business with them. But my strong preference is to go with vendors I either know and trust, or one that many many ppl know and trust.

i bought my 5D Mk ii and could have saved $100 buying it from some smaller unknown NY company. But I went with a name I trusted, even though it cost me a little more.
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I will let you guys know my experience with them. They sell on amazon as well and they have a very good rating that's why I bought from them.
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I bought on the phone with assurance that its on stock. they will ship tomorrow. let's see.
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Apologies if someone already posted this, but here's a rave review of the PJ with an Editor's choice award to boot. Apparently, it's bound give the AE4000 a lot to think about:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor_review.htm
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