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Picture just doesnt seem that sharp and looks soft. I remember having a DLP projectors years a go and it being life like as it was that sharp.

Any way I want out ASAP!! woulld the W6000 be a sharper upgrade ?
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You sure you have it setup right.....feeding it 1080p......
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Jamie, did you ever try using this projector without the anamorphic lens you bought? If you just replace the projector and use the same lens, it may not be any sharper. Also this lack of sharpness may also be a side effect of washout: If your room has light coloured walls and ceiling, then this may tend to make the image look less sharp as well. If you have a very short throw you will be using the maximum zoom, which often tends to be the less desirable end in terms of sharpness due to the larger area of the projector's lens in use (most CA for example).

I hope you see this reply and at least acknowledge it as you seem very fond of starting new threads and then leaving them without replying to any responses.

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Jamie, did you ever try using this projector without the anamorphic lens you bought? If you just replace the projector and use the same lens, it may not be any sharper. Also this lack of sharpness may also be a side effect of washout: If your room has light coloured walls and ceiling, then this may tend to make the image look less sharp as well. If you have a very short throw you will be using the maximum zoom, which often tends to be the less desirable end in terms of sharpness due to the larger area of the projector's lens in use (most CA for example).

I hope you see this reply and at least acknowledge it as you seem very fond of starting new threads and then leaving them without replying to any responses.

Yes I tried that with out the lens in place and it just didn't seem any different. I only bought the lens in the first place as I was zooming and though that was the reason for the soft looking image.

Its now down to the actual projector. Every one goes on about blacks all the time but sharpness is defo the most important for me, especially as I sit 10ft from my 106" screen.

I have no option but to sell my 8500Ub now and look for a single chip DLP which should give the picture that vava voom!!

LCD projector just arnt as sharp single DLP projector, from doing some reading.

My room is pretty blackout as well!

Anyone else out there thinking of buying a LCD projector and you sit quite close then defo go single chip DLP !

Kelvin am the twisted thread starter, cant help it! I need to share my pain !!!
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I think it sounds like you'll only be happy with a DLP then. I can't help with recommendations as I can't watch single chip DLP due to the rainbow effect, though I was impressed (in between rainbows) with an Infocus IN76 I saw a few years ago and that was only 720p.

Are you using much zoom in the current setup? It might be worth trying the PJ further back and using less zoom if possible, though I guess this probably isn't an option. Same goes if you're using lots of lens shift (remember DLPs tend to be very fussy about where you have to place them).

Just trying to help as you'll find out soon enough just how little used projectors fetch.

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I had a 6500UB ( well...... 5 of them actually - LOL, due to all the issues )
Then finally got rid of it - and switched to a Mits HC6800. Absolutely love it!!!
Razor sharp with a wonderfully natural image!!
I can't do DLP because of rainbows.
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my 8700 is sharper than a mosquito's d***
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Dumb question I am sure, but have you used a setup disk and adjusted the sharpness properly?

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Dumb question I am sure, but have you used a setup disk and adjusted the sharpness properly?
Yes, I have done a RMA with Epson maybe something isnt right, Will give it a final chance to impress then its for sale

Anyone in the UK after a 8500UB PM me
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You're sure it's not the source material? What blu-ray movies are you testing?
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Dumb question I am sure, but have you used a setup disk and adjusted the sharpness properly?

Well I agree that should be checked, but sharpness as a setting is NOT actually sharpness as the literal translation. In fact the vast majority of displays are ideally setup with the "sharpness" turn as low as it will go, because in reality it is edge enhancement. From the sounds of it this is not the issue, rather a lack of focus/good convergence (guessing).
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Anyone in the UK after a 8500UB PM me

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