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I have a older sibling who heads a prestigious law firm here in california, im going to consult with him about the possibility of a class action suit or even a formal threat of legal action just to send a strong message to them.

If you make that call have him read the JVC RS40/X3 thread. Much more serious problem on that projector than the stretched 16:9 on the LG. Short bulb life over there has many long range problems for an owner.

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If you make that call have him read the JVC RS40/X3 thread. Much more serious problem on that projector than the stretched 16:9 on the LG. Short bulb life over there has many long range problems for an owner.

I'll look at that and see what he has to say, but it's really not about the money, I know the LG is just a toy basically, it's the lack of regard they have for the consumer. then again LG is notorious for their crappy products in consumer most electronics and appliances. I will look at the JVC thread and copy some of the complaints and show him, I would love to see these big corporations try to explain how they expect the consumer to foot the bill for their screw ups.
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I will look at the JVC thread and copy some of the complaints and show him, I would love to see these big corporations try to explain how they expect the consumer to foot the bill for their screw ups.

You've got a lot of reading to do!

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stretch issue fixed or anything?

By the way:



"LG showed at this year's ISE's new LED projector, the LG HW600G. The projector operates at 1280 x 800 pixels WXGA on the base. He is now part of the lumen of the brightest, pure LED projector with 600 lumens be. An exact value was not yet known. Compared to its competitors, he thus offers at least 100 lumens more. The contrast is specified with 3000:1. The picture which showed the LG HW600G test at the ISE in a darkened room, was also a corresponding positive impression. The built-in LED unit is to provide a period of up to 30,000 hours.

The connections were in the illustrated device HDMI port, a VGA port, and two 3.5 mm jack connectors (1 x A / V in / 1 x audio out (headphone port)). Also still have USB ports announced.

Among the features the device offers a player feature, which can also play HD DivX files. Moreover, the possibility exists, Office files play on the File Viewer. Precisely this makes the LG HW600G favorable for business users who are traveling light luggage. The media player is also represented by the 3-watt stereo speakers or even attractive.

With the given data, the LG offers an interesting alternative to comparable devices. All that remains to be seen, the area in which moves the LG HW600G price." (translation from german)
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I wonder if the HW600G will be available at more retailers than then the HW300's pathetic rollout?
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I would like to see the HW600G in action and compare to my hw300g

I have finally set the projector to my taste I leave a couple of pictures :

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/phot0095z.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/phot0096n.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/phot0097.jpg/

Later i will share my configuration, what I've done is set up the projector in advanced mode, i use 1080p resolution from my PC, and configure vlc player and I have changed ati avivo video mode to "iluminated".

Now i am really happy with image quality its almost as good as on my old 1080p lcd tv

Sorry for my english .
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I returned my 300t and will never buy another LG product again, ever. the horrible experience I had with tech support and repair shop won't fade any time soon. I won't buy another LED projector until the 1080P LED 3D 1500 lumens or more start rolling out at a reasonable price (under 2k) and can't have an "LG" logo on it either.
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I returned my 300t and will never buy another LG product again, ever. the horrible experience I had with tech support and repair shop won't fade any time soon. I won't buy another LED projector until the 1080P LED 3D 1500 lumens or more start rolling out at a reasonable price (under 2k) and can't have an "LG" logo on it either.

Why so harsh? You can't expect so much from and for so little?
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Why so harsh? You can't expect so much from and for so little?

I was expecting it to work as advertised which it didn't, LG never addressed the stretching issue and to me that's an unacceptable and unethical business practice. aside from the stretching issue it was absolutely the best performing led projector I've have seen so far in the price range. beautiful image, dead on skin tones, good contrast and black levels, but....horrible 3rd world tech support and the GLARING stretching issue.
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hi , i have one question my pj is hw300g , and when i am using the native resolution 1280x800 connected to my pc via hdmi , in advanced settings all options are disabled :S but when i choice 1080p they are enabled .

how can i access them in native resolution?

thanks and sorry for my english
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There is a solution available to solve the stretching problem with an HDMI 16x9 input. I emailed Lumagen tech support describing the problem with this projector. Here is their response:

Hi Jack,

You should try to drive your projector at it's native resolution so that the projector doesn't scale the image. There is a standard VESA mode for 800x1280. You can enter the following custom mode into the Radiance.

1. Turn on service menu by pressing "Menu 0910"
2. Enter a new mode timing for one of the custom modes by pressing "Menu, Output, Custom Modes, Custom0, Timing, Mode Timing, Ok"

Vtotal 828
Vactive 800
Vfront 1
Vsync 3
Vrate 59.94

Htotal 1650
Hactive 1280
Hfront 64
Hsync 136

Mode P

3. Test the mode by clicking "Test Mode" at the right side of the screen.
4. Make sure that you "Save" the new settings.

5. To vertically squeeze the 16x10 image to 16x9 press "Menu, Output, Styles, [style], Mask/Shrink, Shrink, Ok". Adjust the top and/or bottom shrink settings to get a 16x9 image on the projector.
6. Make sure that you "Save" the new settings.


I know that the Lumagen Radiance Mini-3D Video Processor costs more than the LG 300T (There's one on Amazon for $1499) but consider this:

1. The Radiance has a complete Color Management System so you could calibrate this to be a near perfect color projector.

2. You would have the only quality HD LED projector with decent brightness for around $2,000.

Any takers?

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$2000?

You're too funny. I feel bad that until now, that HW300t hasn't been fixed of the stretching bug. I'm thankful that I bought the older HX350t (XGA) way back when.

I hope the new HW600g will not have this same issue though.

I love LG displays, it's just unfortunate that this one in particular was such a flop.

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There is a solution available to solve the stretching problem with an HDMI 16x9 input. I emailed Lumagen tech support describing the problem with this projector. Here is their response:

Hi Jack,

You should try to drive your projector at it's native resolution so that the projector doesn't scale the image. There is a standard VESA mode for 800x1280. You can enter the following custom mode into the Radiance.

1. Turn on service menu by pressing "Menu 0910"
2. Enter a new mode timing for one of the custom modes by pressing "Menu, Output, Custom Modes, Custom0, Timing, Mode Timing, Ok"

Vtotal 828
Vactive 800
Vfront 1
Vsync 3
Vrate 59.94

Htotal 1650
Hactive 1280
Hfront 64
Hsync 136

Mode P

3. Test the mode by clicking "Test Mode" at the right side of the screen.
4. Make sure that you "Save" the new settings.

5. To vertically squeeze the 16x10 image to 16x9 press "Menu, Output, Styles, [style], Mask/Shrink, Shrink, Ok". Adjust the top and/or bottom shrink settings to get a 16x9 image on the projector.
6. Make sure that you "Save" the new settings.


I know that the Lumagen Radiance Mini-3D Video Processor costs more than the LG 300T (There's one on Amazon for $1499) but consider this:

1. The Radiance has a complete Color Management System so you could calibrate this to be a near perfect color projector.

2. You would have the only quality HD LED projector with decent brightness for around $2,000.

Any takers?

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$2000?

You're too funny. I feel bad that until now, that HW300t hasn't been fixed of the stretching bug. I'm thankful that I bought the older HX350t (XGA) way back when.

I hope the new HW600g will not have this same issue though.

I love LG displays, it's just unfortunate that this one in particular was such a flop.

In a way my message was a little tongue in cheek but if you think about it, the only weakness in the proposal is the low resolution of 720P for $2K. Colors are brilliant, brightness is good for dark room, and no bulb worries. From there you just swap out the projectors as they get brighter and better resolution.

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hi,

A new firmware is avalaible on the lg website (support).

16/9 stretching issue with hdmi on bluray player solved !
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hi,

A new firmware is avalaible on the lg website (support).

16/9 stretching issue with hdmi on bluray player solved !

Does the description of the update say it addresses the 16x9 issue?

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Does the description of the update say it addresses the 16x9 issue?

There is no description but the new firmware has already been tested and reported on other forums as solving the stretching issue.

A video on youtube shows the earth in ice age well "round" now.

I can't post any link sorry.

NB : Firmware available for LG HW300 G

Software File(Version 03.00.16)
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Found it on french forum. Seems to be working. Now the question is, will it work on HW300T or HW300Y?. Update file says it's for HW300G. Now if you want to try it just type:

"Guide_de_mise_a_jour_software.pdf" in google. It will give only one find to link called "Support pour produit LG HW300G" and there you have it.

Two files:

Software_File(Version_03.00.16).zip 95,020K
Guide_de_mise_a_jour_software.pdf 97K

Guide says to create a directory "lg_dtv" on the usb, then to copy file "HW300G Firmware Version 03.00.16.epk". Plug it in, wait 10 sec, projector will ask if you want to update and you're all set.

youtube blurry movies are kinda worthless, but check them out:

"L'age de glace HW300G après update firmware."
"HW300G Update Firmware sur freebox V6"
"HW 300G après MAJ Firmware" --> this one shows EA logo starting from 43 sec.

Ok now who is the brave one to try it on your projector?
Keep us posted!
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I tried this on my HW300Y, as the OTA version didn't show up when I tried that... but it didn't load after the 10 seconds, having followed the PDF instructions correctly... I wish I hadn't swapped the G for the Y now!!

I'm sure the 300T and Y equivalent updates will be available soon... just have to be patient I suppose.
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Confirmed, 16/9 stretching issue with hdmi solved!
I have just updated the firmware on my HW300g. I tested it using a round picture with the hdmi output of my camera, it used to look stretch, now it is correct. (using "16:9" or "original" in the projectors options)
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Okay, I have just submitted a message to LG France support, in my best A-level French (been fifteen years since I spoke a word back in school...), asking if there will be the equivalent update for the LG300Y:

I'll let you all know if/when I receive a reply.

____________________________________________________________ ____________
J'ai remarqué qu'il ya une mise Ã* jour logicielle pour le HW300G LG dans le lien suivant:

http : //www . lg . com /fr/support/product/support-product-profile.jsp?customerModelCode=HW300G&initialTab=drivers&targetPage=support-product-profile&searchEngineModelCode=HW300G

Comme cela résout le problème où les images sont étirées, cette mise Ã* jour sera bientôt disponible pour le LG HW300Y?
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kidp thanks for information , tomorrow i will try to update new formware
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Well LG sent me a free projector, after I threatened to file a lawsuit, same ,
Model hw300t, with the same issue. But I was told that if I set my blu ray player to 480p and the screen to 4:3 letterboxed, and I tried it briefly and it seemed to work on a blu ray I was watching, maybe it's temporary fix until they come up with a software update. I don't know if it'll work to fix the 16:9 issue though
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Well LG sent me a free projector, after I threatened to file a lawsuit, same ,
Model hw300t, with the same issue. But I was told that if I set my blu ray player to 480p and the screen to 4:3 letterboxed, and I tried it briefly and it seemed to work on a blu ray I was watching, maybe it's temporary fix until they come up with a software update. I don't know if it'll work to fix the 16:9 issue though

If it doesn't fix the 16x9 issue what does it fix?

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If it doesn't fix the 16x9 issue what does it fix?

it seems to fix the stretching the when playing 2.39:1 movies with blu ray and dvd, it seems to preserve the original aspect ratio. I only briefly played with it and it seems to work. I only played a lil bit of Titanic (1997) and took a quick measurement of the image. my screen is 80" wide and the Titanic projected image measured 30" x 80" but checking the calculator it's supposed to be 33" high with 2.39:1 format, so I know image is not stretched.
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hi , i have one question my pj is hw300g , and when i am using the native resolution 1280x800 connected to my pc via hdmi i do not have access to the expert settings( all options are disabled ):S but when i choice 1080p they are enabled .

how can i access them in native resolution?

thanks and sorry for my english

someone else has this problem?
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If it doesn't fix the 16x9 issue what does it fix?

jack, now im really confused...when i played titanic on dvd shot in 2.35:1 format, it displays movie properly with my blu ray player set to normal settings (1080p, 16:9 original) projector set to "just scan" like i said b4, image area is 30x80, wtf is going on? i'll take pics tonight and post
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If it doesn't fix the 16x9 issue what does it fix?


this is a dvd, not a blu ray disc





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jack, now im really confused...when i played titanic on dvd shot in 2.35:1 format, it displays movie properly with my blu ray player set to normal settings (1080p, 16:9 original) projector set to "just scan" like i said b4, image area is 30x80, wtf is going on? i'll take pics tonight and post

I am watching 16x9 program on Direct TV. When I went to the Display Settings menu on the receiver and changed my setting from 16x9 to 4x3 the image was squashed so that black bars appeared above and below the image. The image still filled the screen left and right. This may explain why you felt outputting 4x3 fixed your problem because the LG will take a 16x9 image and stretch it to 16x10. So if we map this over to my squashed 16x9 image the LG will then expand it to 16x10 and you may get 40 rows of black on the top and 40 rows of black on the top.

Are you using a BR player and do you have a BR disc to try this with? Forget the 2.35 disc for now, that just confuses the issue. Get out that calibration disc you used before with the circle image. Try the 4x3 display setting with that and see what happens. You'll probably get a nice round circle. Let us know what happens.

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Also, try connecting your BR player or HD satellite receiver to the LG using the component connections. The quality of the image will be almost the same and they may not have a bug in that part of the processing.

Are you able to download the patch described a few posts above?

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