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Maybe, but to me the colors look wildly oversaturated and un-natural. Have you tried calibrating your pj's colors at all? I.e. if you don't have a BD calibration disc, any THX DVD will have test screens you can use.

Have you calibrated the monitor you are viewing pictures that were taken at odd angles by an amateur using a camera of unknown quality depicting the images of an uncalibrated projector displaying a movie consisting of over-exaggerated colors?

Not really the most accurate representation of the actual image that SMJ is seeing in his theater.
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I can tell it has some crushed blacks.
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How can you tell?

Too much noise and brightness changes from the camera to tell anything from those screenshots. Even the shadow created by his arm doesn't look good and that isn't from the projector.
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sellmejunk,
Thanks for taking the time to do what you can to help us see what this projector is capable off. Please don't let the 13-year-olds get you down.

Note: This post is not a direct disparagement of 13 year olds. It actually equates some who act as if they're 13 years old, don't know anything, and cannot understand that they don't. If you are 13 years old rest assured you will be treated with respect as long as you treat others with respect. Unless, of course, those you interact with act like 13 year olds.
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Well this is the last camera ive got to try. Ive set the colours lower. The camera will never be able to get a perfect still shot & i`m not about to fork out cash on a high end camera.
AFter this you will have to use your imaginations as these pictures are the best i can do, and cant see myself messing around any longer to snag that impossible shot.!

Filmwise, i dont own hardly any blurays, i rarely watch films. i got the x1000 to watch my fav tv series on blueray. I much prefer a good TV series to watching a movie. Right now i`m working my way thru battlestar galactica & in a few months will probably get Spartacus, breaking bad, even perhaps the old twilight zone series
it got 5 star for image quality completly remastered)

I wish people happy hunting in their projector choice, i`m just noob owner.

My personal reasons for liking the x1000 is that its 160w. I built my core i-7 pc with some high end green parts.before i bought the x1000 i was gonna buy a sharp LED 47", i had been debating that vs an epson, or benq. The sharp tv nearly won out, as the hassle of projectors is span of the bulbs, money and cost over the years.

Picture quality on the x1000 will never be as good as on physical monitor or TV.
I`m getting more hours out of the X1000 than i ever did with my normal tv, and get a fairly decent 1080p.

I think if you want a better picture quality you should look elsewhere; perhaps buy the epson D7 fine 12 bit, as the x1000 is the epson D7 10bit. If you have money then the cost of bulbs & power consmption shouldnt matter.

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i`m just noob owner.

Those pics are not bad, not bad at all. I'd guess that with a little tuning it could look pretty darn good perhaps!

In any case, I think smj you've done well to get this pj at the price you did, and I congratulate you for it and hope it meets your needs for many years to come.
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very over saturated, but a nice crisp image. as you said a little tuning and it should be dialed in pretty well.
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The cannon a470 did a much better job than that pentax, so gave it a another go. i can get some slightly better looking pictures, by turning down the exposure. That scene is too bright for the auto mode

3 lower exposure settings from the cannon a470


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Just for that : more speed racer for you tommorrow!

Ive never actually watched the film, i got it as a tester cause it got 5 star based on picture quality + was on sale. Speed racer really shows off those rich colors... man you people are hard to please..

i`ll try some Battlestar Galactica perhaps


You actually paid money for this movie??? LMAO
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yep 4.99 GBP = 8.08356 USD

it was still shrink wrapped from ebay.

I wont pay over £7.99 for a movie, when i could get more hours out of spartacus season 1 (13 episodes) for £22.00 new. It was either speed racer or teenage mutant ninja turtles(also £4.99) but speeds racer won out as TNMNT had 4.5 rating based on picture quality.

A-Z list of bluray based on picture grade
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews_video.html

just as an example these ones were near the bottom of the rating
# From Dusk Till Dawn
Video Grade: 1.5 out of 5
# Halloween (1978)
Video Grade: 1.5 out of 5

may as well watch them on dvd!
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yep 4.99 GBP = 8.08356 USD

it was still shrink wrapped from ebay.

I wont pay over £7.99 for a movie, when i could get more hours out of spartacus season 1 (13 episodes) for £22.00 new. It was either speed racer or teenage mutant ninja turtles(also £4.99) but speeds racer won out as TNMNT had 4.5 rating based on picture quality.

A-Z list of bluray based on picture grade
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews_video.html

just as an example these ones were near the bottom of the rating
# From Dusk Till Dawn
Video Grade: 1.5 out of 5
# Halloween (1978)
Video Grade: 1.5 out of 5

may as well watch them on dvd!

No offense or anything dude, but you can justify it anyway you want and it is still gay.

Check your closet for more movies.

.
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fair enough. I did say i`d do some galactica, but the 3.5 out of 5 for image quality would probably have people whining even more than you.

it will have to be rush hour 3, as thats all i got.
Ive got a load of dvd`s otherwise, but kinda pointless on 1080 (tho i havent tryed a dvd on the x1000 yet) dunno if my ati card would upscale it, that could be a possibilty..
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The cannon does a better job than the pentax camera, tho still isnt perfect.
Bear in mind the black widescreen border to my eye is pitch black, but on the camera may appear alot lighter.

Anyways heres some more stills

Rush Hour 3




























Family guy on BBC HD







Jules Holland on BBC HD( a BBC guest music show)








My ATI card upscales

Pulp Fiction DVD








Untouchables DVD






American Ninja DVD









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American ninja!!! Holy crap you have completely redeemed yourself.
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Your pictures are getting much better. I know your video sources are plugged direct into the projector and looking quite watchable.

I pass my output signal through a DVDO VP-50 video processor.

The DVDO is icing on the cake for videophile excellent picture quality.
I can't wait to see this projector with the DVDO.

Because of your posts I will probably order the CRE X1000 very soon!

Thank You for more screen shots that had much better skin tones and plenty of different sources.

I now have an Epson UB6500 that is really a terrific projector working just fine. I am thinking of putting it in the closet for an emergency spare backup and getting the CRE X1000.
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With a good camera and somebody that was good at taking pictures, I bet the images would be really good. People trying to judge a projector based on pictures from a point and shoot are obviously making a snap judgment with regards to this projector. if it holds up, then it is a winner. Especially when you consider it's price point.
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Yeh moms camera to the rescue..not bad, tho camera does react different to some scenes. Those pictures are set to varying exposure so the actual x1000 picture is alot brighter than the photos your seeing, its actually alot more luminecence. i have no trouble believing this could be 800 lumen. i can watch the picture fine with some ambient lighting .

American Ninja rocks! Yeh bluray is still pretty new, theres not a massive catalogue of old classics,
I dont know how it is in USA, but in UK DVD`s still outsell blurays by 74%

The hard thing is figuring out which Dvd`s to rebuy on bluray & if those titles are available.
As for DVDO yes a few people have mentioned it, i`ll certainly add it to my wish list
I wonder is there a PC graphics card alternative with these DVDo features? as my bluray player is the PC.
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No offense or anything dude, but you can justify it anyway you want and it is still gay.

Check your closet for more movies.

.

I would have slammed this post except it prompted more pics which SMJ is under no obligation to provide to you or anyone else. He does not have to justify his video collection to anybody and no, I am not gay. What was the original purpose of your post? Gay bashing? This is an AV forum and we are here to exchange info and learn. I do not feel your post was fair enough at all whether he is gay or not. I have never alerted about a post here but you brought me close. Do you hang out under/near a bridge and exact tolls for folks to cross or what?
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SMJ, Hmmmm RH fanny shot is a good one. Makes me want to watch that again lol. Enjoy the PJ.
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lol i may have to get a closeup of the fanny parade next time for you
It quite funny, as i do have some 1080p soft clips of some girs, i suppose i can post some tasteful shots..lol, though really i wanna to buy some decent glossy bluray porn for the big screen
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ah yeh that blue writing i was a bit grumpy after the pentax pictures, to be fair to kthejoker20 he didnt wanna see any more speed racer, for some unknown personal reason. + i did say galactica was on the cards, but we were inbetween the comparsion from speed racer on the pentax vs cannon
The argument i had with my sister to borrow her new samsung, nearly led me to 1up her & spend bigbucks on the cannon powershot s95 After my own 8mb camera failed miserably and then the poor pentax images from my dads camera, was really annoying, Pentax i had thought was a great brand jeez!
Luckily my moms cannon a470 takes decent pictures, so has put me in a better mood
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Well you can enjoy or keep those to yourself, much as I might like to view them. My point is that this just may be a great unit. I have a LED lit RP TV and it has lasted a loooooong time. No problems. It is of course DLP and yours is LCD. I have disassembled my TV and cleaned the interior out because there was picture degradation on the screen. Good as new after that. Most importantly is the dust I removed from the heat sinks which are very similar to the ones in your CRE unit. I expect another 3 years out of the unit at least. Now for the bad news, my light engine alone has 3 separate fans and puts out quite a bit of heat at the exhaust. Your unit appears to have one fan. Also for anyone wondering, my DLP TV has no colorwheel, duh, but just saying. I think this TV was way ahead of it's time and we may see this tech again in the front PJ market. I am watching it now as I type, It really is good tech and looks good. Does 3d checkerboard very well too. Give me a break. 3 Year old tech with no 3d ghosting or cross talk. Hard to do today. Come on man. Did I mention there is still some RBE in 3d? Curiously this is the only time I note it on this TV and you do not have to look hard but in 2d, forget about it. Whatever happened to checkerboard? It works really well.
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lol i may have to get a closeup of the fanny parade next time for you
It quite funny, as i do have some 1080p soft clips of some girs, i suppose i can post some tasteful shots..lol, though really i wanna to buy some decent glossy bluray porn for the big screen


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Hey smj why dont you try some HD trailers

real steal or the NEW planet of the apes off of apple
http://trailers.apple.com/
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Ah yeh that DLP rear screen is big so needs alot of air.The x1000 with one fan only puts out 28 degrees Celcius (from 6 inches away from exhaust). .
Thats intresting about DLP TV, one of those little known hidden gem techs. Sounds like it has lasted you a long time, how many hours does that DLP bulb give you i wonder?
I was offered a rear projection TV very cheap about 7 years ago, but didnt have the space for it at the time, probably wasnt DLP but looked awesome so understand the appeal..
I guess most people just know CRT,LCD, LED & plasma. I had heard plasma to give the best picture, but wouldnt get one as they suck up alot electricity.
On the luminus site, they state the pT-120 to be suitable for combination LCD, and with DLP.
Its very possible someone will do this and make a LED DLP! projector, lol wonder if its possible to have a LED/DLP/LCD all in one projector!
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there are lots of led dlp PJs ,there are around the same number of lcd(bulbed) 1080p pjs as there are led dlp 1080p projectors-there are tons of pico and pocket dlp led pj,s
and I have one.There are a handfull of lcos led pjs and i have one of those also.
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Its very possible someone will do this and make a LED DLP! projector, lol wonder if its possible to have a LED/DLP/LCD all in one projector!

1080p DLP LED projectors have been available for close to a year now. Why would anyone put DLP and LCD in the same projector? That doesn't even make any sense.
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projectiondesign FL32 1080p

First Ship Date:
7/6/2009
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projectiondesign FL32 1080p

First Ship Date:
7/6/2009

I guess they have been around for nearly 2 years then. Wow, and priced at only $32,000!
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I now have an Epson UB6500 that is really a terrific projector working just fine. I am thinking of putting it in the closet for an emergency spare backup and getting the CRE X1000.

You are certifiably insane if you think the x1000 will look better than your 6500.
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I guess they have been around for nearly 2 years then. Wow, and priced at only $32,000!
That is the point I failed to make in my post. The price.

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