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post #1261 of 1285 Old 09-17-2013, 09:44 AM
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Hi guys

i will share one good thinks every body listen carefully if you use 3d silver screen projector screen the quality is going to be excellent and so sharp like 3d
it doesnt mutter u use cre x1000 or cre x2000vx during day and night you can see excellent picture

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Hey guys!

 

A time ago I get CRE x2000 PX and want to share some pictures. Later this or maybe next week I'll try to make a detailed review on it.

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60169681/CREx2000-preview.zip

 

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Hello
How did you replace the fuse on the CREX1000? I sent it back for repair, and when it returned after a full test and pass, would not work at all. They said try replacing the fuse. However I am having difficulty in taking the top panel off. Is there a method or process that I can follow?

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The screws are at the bottom of the proj. The fuse is on the power board. But, if it berns out, it means, that power modul has a mulfunction. In moste cases main switching transistor is broken.
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Yurik, as I can see, the same stupid linear regulator in power module, as in X1000, and a piece of **** instead of the lens. But white is much better. And I guess low light output, some about 300 ANSI lumens, real, not china.
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Ledmaster, since I'm not an expert in digital projector at all, I can't argue with that. The only thing I may say, that the projector satisfies my simple needs for now. Maybe it would be enough to have HD (1280x720) projector, but there seems to be no any cheap model at market with lens shift.

 

About lumens, we have to turn on a dim light (~20W) while watching at the evening - it is too bright for me and my wife when twilight. We'll see how it goes when white nights comes to St. Petersburg =)

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@ledmaster do you think it's easy/medium/hard to open up the projector and align the lcd panels of the CRE X1000, the one I has has like 2-3 pixel alignment issues betwen colors but mostly at the edges, so makes me wonder if it's not possible to fix.
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Yes, my friend. I need to agree, that lens shift in both planes is a great oppotunity. And 300-400 lm real ANSI lumens is well enough light output for home utilization. May be a bit low only for 3D application. But your pixel photo shows huge chromatic abberation (this is not matrix displacement)., and this is due to low qualy of the main lens, for a pity.
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Troyworks, no chances to "correct" matrixes in homeplace, beware of stupid advices. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1307577/lightbox/post/22693100/id/105705 (see #39 page). One pixel is abot several microns, and you can not achieve such level of prcision. And this is not all. There is also angle precision requirement, and so on...
By the way, as I admtitted to Yuri Tichomirov, this effect is not a displace, but a chromatic abberation of cheap main lens. To avoid that you should spend not less then a couple of thousends bucks on it.
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Hi there,

You guys still speaking about this projector! btw i got too lazy and got other projects so i didn't do EDID flash, even tho i think some problems could be solved doing that. I've used this projector as a tv and used it to watch movies from computer, what i've noticed that the picture quality is worse if i've not done my custom resolution thing (to get rid of that overscan).

Yes picture quality can be slighly better if using the tricks i posted couple posts ago, (tho im not sure if u need to make custom driver too, im using my custom driver with the nvidia custom settings shown before to eliminate overscan and /magically/ improving picture quality).

Would i buy this projector again if i knew what i now know? Propably not there are couple reasons, it is an unfinished projector it could be average projector if the biggest problems would have been fixed.


Next thing wagon i think im gonna hop in is the Ultra-D Glasses Free Television, too bad that the projector industry is still not developing as fast as it could!

EDIT EDIT: I uploaded a EDID OVERRIDE .INF (for x1000NXL not sure if works with other versions) so you guys who are still using this **** can get the 1x1 pixelmappin, as i said year ago it is not a perfect. With pc you still get pretty nice picture on fullHD resolution. You need to disable Digital Signel Checking in your windows to be able to install this, this was mostly done checking phoenix EDID code and compiled afterwards.
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@LEdmaster did your experiment with other lens help any? I'm wondering how much the aberration is the main lens as much as the prismatic combiner, as it's worse on one side than the other.

Also after a year of using it, last couple month several hours a day, and a recent visit to the consumer electronics store (best buy) where there is a significant shift to 4K displays, as a whole it's still been a good purchase, the colors suck but the overall is much more film like with less pixelation than any of the lcd.plasma screens I've seen today, and suitable if your using web delivered content (netflix, popcorntime, youtube).
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To TroyWorks. Sorry for delay.
I tried to solve this problem on installation more than a year ago, and don't remember the details. The main thing was to change projection distance. Chromatic aberration on the pixels was less noticeable, than with the standard lens. However, because of the differing sizes of the LCD matrixes with the size, recommended for this lens, a bluish offset at the left side of the screen and rose at the right has become more noticeable. I believe this is due to the imperfection of prismatic combiner..
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Found a trick on this projector for better white/black balance, wanted to share...though I'm not sure how many care at this point.

I added a circular polarizer from a camera, to the front which if dialed one way adds magenta, the other green. As the 'black' tends to be on the greenish side, adding magenta helps dial it in a way not possible through the onscreen controls as far as I can tell, to get the color balance

I added it to reduce brightness at night (as I'm light sensitive in evenings), which it does do, but not to the point of removing too much brightness.
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I have the Cre X1000NX 3000 lumens 100K contrast ratio and had it for about 2 ½ years. I had not used it for about 2 months and I wanted to use it and turned it on and now I have what looks like a test pattern across the top and bottom over the picture. I was wondering if any of you had this problem and how to fix it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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I have had mine just over 2 years and on turning it on, had a new issue with the blue channel streaking, which I suspect is hardware chip issues.

what's odd is it doesn't show up in the static when no signal is present or the opening screen so suspect that it's the HDMI input that got damaged...conveniently right after the 2 year warranty date > anyway I'm trying to contract CRE about a repair, still wading through email correspondance with them.
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If there was no any voltage stress, the most often cause of malfunction is dry soldering point or microcrack in soldering. I advise you to check main board thoroughly with microscope and solde all suspicious contacts.
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Are people still talking about this model?

And why so many issues?

Why are there no professional reviews yet?

Why aren't people hearing back on warranty or service issues?

This model is one of the few that seems to use decent LCD panels in the design, but it can't get away from their false brightness advertising, and it seems like people are finding out first hand just how poorly built these models are for long term use. I've certainly seen any number of LCD projectors fail over the years, but that's a tiny percentage after years of use... Nothing like this.

I certainly wouldn't spend hours of my time trying to figure out what electronics are bad in something I owned.

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The X2500 sounds A LOT like the Brilens Technology LS1280 Laser/LED Hybrid Portable Projector recently tested by Projector Central at this link. Seems to be at least a small step above white van level.
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The X2500 sounds A LOT like the Brilens Technology LS1280 Laser/LED Hybrid Portable Projector recently tested by Projector Central at this link. Seems to be at least a small step above white van level.
At about $1,000 it should be a very solid model with very good quality that puts it into competition with others.

But, it sounds more like it is going up against the LG PF1500U which sounds like it delivers similar lumen output with a entirely LED light engine, nearly dead silent operation due to a well thought out case design, and a FULL 1080p design for what may be a similar $1,000 price point.

I don't get it. The only way these things sell is by completely lying to consumers about the specifications. No USA base of operations for support and questions. Typically terrible websites, etc. It's not that hard to just be honest because from what I can tell, it's only a matter of time before one of these companies gets sued for lying to consumers about the specifications. When a group gets so sick and tired of the lies, that they take a company for whatever they can.

Imagine I buy 300 of these projectors for a school. Only the projectors aren't bright enough. So, I sue them not just for my purchase price, but for every cent it takes to install projectors which DO measure up to the brightness claims which are made. As well, since that will only come from a traditional lamp driven projector, I also get the price required for every replacement lamp needed to keep that projector going for the length of time that is claimed on the product I originally purchased.

This is long overdue IMO because as a consumer it is beyond ridiculous how much we are flat out lied to in this particular market.

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Mine has been on repair state for 8 months, tho its not totally their fault it got broken pretty badly in the shipping and i should be getting it back in less than 2 months. They promised to fix everything on their cost, except i have to pay for two new leds because the led they changed was brighter than the others and the image quality was greenish (that costs me about 60-70 euros).

I have to try that camera lens trick thanks for that.


EDIT: Mine was broken in the way that image got some reddish lines across everywhere and then i got the same issue as the first buyer (yellow spot). I have to add that i used the projector in everyday basis as my "tv", sometimes it was left on for quite long times hopefully getting that back soon. I would still not recommend this you could get pretty beastly TV for the price even better if bought second hand.

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I consider any item I buy direct from China is a gamblers risk. Sometimes I win sometimes I loose. You have to consider the money as having been flushed down the toilet if you loose. If the product is good and you are happy you win. It's that simple.

My dealing with customer service from more than one direct Chinese purchases have all been horrible experiences.

Anyone that can't afford to gamble and loose the money should not go to the Casino to play. Yes, I'm talking about buying anything direct from a Chinese dealer!
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Hi all,

I have a color problem with my CRE-X1000. White is ... a bit "yellow".
Have you any idea? The menu for settings is really poor and I can not set
the offset of leds.

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At about $1,000 it should be a very solid model with very good quality that puts it into competition with others.

But, it sounds more like it is going up against the LG PF1500U which sounds like it delivers similar lumen output with a entirely LED light engine, nearly dead silent operation due to a well thought out case design, and a FULL 1080p design for what may be a similar $1,000 price point.

I don't get it. The only way these things sell is by completely lying to consumers about the specifications. No USA base of operations for support and questions. Typically terrible websites, etc. It's not that hard to just be honest because from what I can tell, it's only a matter of time before one of these companies gets sued for lying to consumers about the specifications. When a group gets so sick and tired of the lies, that they take a company for whatever they can.

Imagine I buy 300 of these projectors for a school. Only the projectors aren't bright enough. So, I sue them not just for my purchase price, but for every cent it takes to install projectors which DO measure up to the brightness claims which are made. As well, since that will only come from a traditional lamp driven projector, I also get the price required for every replacement lamp needed to keep that projector going for the length of time that is claimed on the product I originally purchased.

This is long overdue IMO because as a consumer it is beyond ridiculous how much we are flat out lied to in this particular market.
Good luck in that Chinese court room;-).

As for why people bought these three years ago, there hardly were any other options. The Samsung '1000 lumens', did it ever see any sales. Anyway, we all read the first user experience here from France. Only way to get service is to hop on a plane and go there with local assistance. Dealing with non-local vendors can be hard, when it is going to cost them money (heck even with local suppliers it is hard to get your legal rights acknowledged, witthout going to court), let alone vendors in a different jurisdiction. Basically you are doing a tradedeal, so even if there is consumer protection regulation in place (wich there isn't, you waved that buying directly from the manufacturer.

Edit: oops it has already been going for four years, not three. That Samsung FM10 seems to have been a one off, only available shortly.

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Hello,

I have got a CRE X1000 and the images are really "yellow". The white balance is really bad! I have tried to set with the factory menu(1234) but it 's the mess.
I read (with interest) the posts from the guru LEDMASTER and I am ready to update the electronics in the projector (I am engineer in electronics).

Have you any suggestions to get a bright "white" and not a yellow "white".
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As you note yellow screen, that means, that power of blue LED is low. That is the most easy case, cause blue LED has good reserve of emission power. The only task you should solve, is to rise the current, that flows through bleu LED. To do that, you can low the value of sink resistor in series with blue LED. I advise you to do it in few steps, ckecking color balance each time.

Wish you a success.
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