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post #211 of 383 Old 05-26-2011, 06:53 PM
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Just speculation or do you have evidence? Is the H5360 still for sale in Europe? My understanding was that both models would be offered concurrently (since they're targeted at different audiences). Thus no native 3D Vision support in the H5360BD version.

Nobody has evidence of anything regarding this projector except in Europe and that is the whole point. I chatted with Acer support about this and they had absolutely zero info except to suggest that I contact vendors who may know. None of them knew anything.

So if they are waiting for Cedia to announce this I say lame. It exists, just not here. Frankly, I am tired of waiting. Soon I expect to see other units just as capable so as far as I am concerned Acer dropped the ball getting this unit out ahead of others.

As for me, I wanted the unit for a bigger 3D pic than my Samsung RP 61" TV. Now I am looking at 1080P PJs just for the bigger pic and 3D can just be relegated to the Sammy since content is so lacking anyway. I thought the 5360BD was my answer but it simply does not exist and the more I research, the more I realize I want a big 1080P pic and the he!! with 3D. I have 3D now, and can wait and watch how this tech evolves.

Sorry Acer, you had my money earmarked, but delivered no product. Now I am looking at 1080P units. If the Sharp 1700 was not so expensive and the fact that others will be here soon, I would have bought that unit. Can you hear the sound of the ship sailing?
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I am also tired of waiting for the USA release. I am seriously considering order from a German online shop. The price is not too bad, about 651 euro, including shipping to USA. By reading the user manual, the projector can autoswitch 110/220, so my thinking is to change the plug, or get an adaptor. Anyone care to share an opinion on this, or see any problem. I can see one possible down side is whether warranty will be honored by acer or not.

651 euro inc shipping hey. Where did you find that price? I've only seen it on Amazon.de for 699 without shipping.
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I am also tired of waiting for the USA release. I am seriously considering order from a German online shop. The price is not too bad, about 651 euro, including shipping to USA. By reading the user manual, the projector can autoswitch 110/220, so my thinking is to change the plug, or get an adaptor. Anyone care to share an opinion on this, or see any problem. I can see one possible down side is whether warranty will be honored by acer or not.
651 Euro? And is shipping to the USA also included in that price? Man, I'm also kinda interested.
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Yes, 651 euro, including shipping to the USA. I think there may be import duty into the U.S, My GUESS the rate is about 5% of the value, maybe someone can confirm.

The item is selling in Germany for EUR699, with vat tax included. When ship to outside of eurozone, vat tax is removed.
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Yes, 651 euro, including shipping to the USA. I think there may be import duty into the U.S, My GUESS the rate is about 5% of the value, maybe someone can confirm.

The item is selling in Germany for EUR699, with vat tax included. When ship to outside of eurozone, vat tax is removed.

That's great, but you still haven't answered our question concerning WHO exactly is selling it for that price.
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That's great, but you still haven't answered our question concerning WHO exactly is selling it for that price.

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Nobody has evidence of anything regarding this projector except in Europe and that is the whole point.

Sorry if my question was confusing. I was wondering whether you had actual evidence of a plan by Acer to deplete their US inventory of the H5360 model before introducing the H5360BD version. Seems like street prices for the H5360 dropped to @$500 a month ago, but are now up.

I'd kind of like to know the price difference between the two models before making a move one way or the other.
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Sorry if my question was confusing. I was wondering whether you had actual evidence of a plan by Acer to deplete their US inventory of the H5360 model before introducing the H5360BD version. Seems like street prices for the H5360 dropped to @$500 a month ago, but are now up.

The H5360 is selling for $500 again online. That does not prove anything except I am sure they could sell them for more. It is the least expensive unit in its class. No need to apologize, maybe I ought to as I got frustrated waiting.
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I really think the normal 5360 with the 3d-xl box is the way to go. Then you get a free extra hdmi port, and you can use an ir emitter. A samsung ir emitter and the rechargable samsung ir glasses was a good upgrade for my 3D system over the dlp link glasses.
It is also a much easier upgrade path to a dual projector 1080p solution.
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Can I ask what model DLP-Link glasses you were using wnielsenbb?
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I have both ultra-clear dlp-link and ultra-clear samsung compatible ir glasses. I have the nVidia glasses too, but for 3 times the price they not as good as either of the ultra-clears.
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The H5360 is selling for $500 again online. That does not prove anything except I am sure they could sell them for more. It is the least expensive unit in its class. No need to apologize, maybe I ought to as I got frustrated waiting.

Benq 600+ has dropped pretty close. 29.99 more at the moment.
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I really think the normal 5360 with the 3d-xl box is the way to go. Then you get a free extra hdmi port, and you can use an ir emitter. A samsung ir emitter and the rechargable samsung ir glasses was a good upgrade for my 3D system over the dlp link glasses.
It is also a much easier upgrade path to a dual projector 1080p solution.

Warren, I have followed many a post of yours here. I tend to agree with your post but I am sure the wife will dog me out for the unit when trying to view 108p/i. I understand the limitations of 720p PJs, but my wife does not. She will simply say that sucks compared to the Sammy 61" and she will be right. I have tried the Optoma GT720 which BTW is a very nice PJ. It just sucks at full HD. It cannot compare to my old arse Sammy RP TV. Talk about getting your moneys worth. I sure got it with the Sammy. Did I mention it does 3d and in checkerboard? Looks fabulous to me. What happened to that format? It was really good and works today.
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I just watched a few movies on my friends Mitsu 65" rp 3d tv and it just doesn't compare to my system. Twice the size is much better than twice the resolution. I tried another friends 50" plasma 3D and got the same conclusion. No replacement for lots of size. I have to think it might have been your screen. I think you need a high gain screen to make it work well. Now for PC gaming I really want the extra resolution for reading chat. Playing World of Warcraft is pretty amazing in 3D but when raiding it is too hard to read the text at 720p so I end up using my 1080p 2D projector. Of course the problem is the only fix is dual projector passive.
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I just watched a few movies on my friends Mitsu 65" rp 3d tv and it just doesn't compare to my system. Twice the size is much better than twice the resolution. I tried another friends 50" plasma 3D and got the same conclusion. No replacement for lots of size. I have to think it might have been your screen. I think you need a high gain screen to make it work well. Now for PC gaming I really want the extra resolution for reading chat. Playing World of Warcraft is pretty amazing in 3D but when raiding it is too hard to read the text at 720p so I end up using my 1080p 2D projector. Of course the problem is the only fix is dual projector passive.

ahhh kinda like the old saying "there is no replacement for displacement eh?" Old school folks will remember that and fart can equipped drivers will never have heard of it. Anyway, I agree to a point. Screen had nothing to do with it as I never got 3d working on the GT720(refuse to buy 3dvision kit). It made a good picture on both my wall and a sheet. Nonetheless, I knew it was a 720p unit in a lot of cases. So I was awaiting this one, then considering the z1700, came real close to just buying that. Now I am not sure what to do because as soon as I pick something with my luck Mitsu or someone else will put out a 1080p 3d DLP unit for about $2-2.5k and then I will be pissed. So I am now just waiting to see where things go.

The 5360BD unit has not been released here for some reason and nobody is talking about it. That really makes me wonder. Why? What could Acer be up to?
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Yes, 2d on the 720 is horrible. Giant blatant pixels.. yuck. No wonder you weren't impressed. 3D it is a beauty though. It is a rather astounding difference. You can get the 3d-XL and not need nVidia as long as you use a PS3 or BR3D player. BR3D players are fairly cheap now.
And I was indeed thinking about the no replacement for displacement thing. Mustang guy here. 65 fastback and 06 GT with Roush suspension. Good stuff.
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I sit 7' from a 120" screen, so yeah, I am going for the IMAX experience. Actually if I had an average 1080p projector I could probably still see pixels on it. Luckily I got the panasonic ae-2000u. It has a microlens thingy that slightly expands pixels to fill the gaps. I have to stick my nose on the screen to see the structure with it.
I also have a very high gain Vutec Silverstar screen, which helps amplify pixel structure I suppose. It also makes the Acer unusably bright for 2D. It is blinding. On the plus side it makes 3D amazing.
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I'm sure a dedicated thread will pop up for this here very soon, but Optoma just announced an HDMI 1.4 720p DLP PJ for the States ..@ $799 SRP!

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Op...-Support.shtml

It appears the Optoma will have a VESA 3D port, so I'm guessing DLP-Link should be able to defeated, if one opted instead to use IR 3D glasses.
http://www.optomausa.com/Product_det...product_id=572
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The H5360 is selling for $500 again online. That does not prove anything except I am sure they could sell them for more. It is the least expensive unit in its class. No need to apologize, maybe I ought to as I got frustrated waiting.

I paid $479 + free shipping last Nov.
The H5360 and H5360BD are not competing products.
The H5360 is for computer users and the H5360BD is for people that do not compute.
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I paid $479 + free shipping last Nov.
The H5360 and H5360BD are not competing products.
The H5360 is for computer users and the H5360BD is for people that do not compute.

You are correct, the 5360BD is not even available but thanks for the tip, I will keep that in mind while I have no options from Acer.
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I'm sure a dedicated thread will pop up for this here very soon, but Optoma just announced an HDMI 1.4 720p DLP PJ for the States ..@ $799 SRP!

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Op...-Support.shtml

It appears the Optoma will have a VESA 3D port, so I'm guessing DLP-Link should be able to defeated, if one opted instead to use IR 3D glasses.
http://www.optomausa.com/Product_det...product_id=572

Thanks for that post. This is very promising for Optoma and I can only see more from them, maybe even in the 1080p arena. They have the 3d-xl so how hard is it to incorperate the tech? Early bird gets the worm but sometimes good things come to those that wait.

I did like the short throw on the 720 so this ought to be the same. It had a good speaker and worked pretty well. Acer better move soon but I suspect they have something else up their sleeve in the 1080p area.
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I'm sure a dedicated thread will pop up for this here very soon, but Optoma just announced an HDMI 1.4 720p DLP PJ for the States ..@ $799 SRP!

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Op...-Support.shtml

It appears the Optoma will have a VESA 3D port, so I'm guessing DLP-Link should be able to defeated, if one opted instead to use IR 3D glasses.
http://www.optomausa.com/Product_det...product_id=572

This will immediately trump the Acer just for having the Vesa 3D port, I don't want to be stuck with DLP Link or have to use my Nvidia emitter / glasses / PC setup like I currently do with the original 5360.

Right out of the box, I would use my Monster 3D vision glasses with the RF emitter that I use on my JVC RS50. Kudo's to Optoma for stepping it up a bit, competition is great to have.

now lets see some 1080P 3D DLP (besides the Sharp 17000) for the upcoming Cedia event later this year.
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Question: Do you sit considerably closer to the Samsung to get the same field of vision as you do with the projector? 120" screen at 12 feet would be about 6 feet on the Samsung. Just wondering. I couldn't image going back to a small viewing angle, even though the picture might appear higher resolution.

I sit 12' from my 61" RP DLP TV. It has more to do with the rez at 1080 than the screen size. I sat the same distance from the GT720 and have to say it looked good, but I could easily tell and there comes a point where too much screen is a bad thing, especially at lower rez. Transformers really did look good on BD as did Batman DK. I have to say the GT720 was not a bad unit at all but my 3d issues killed it. A 720p unit looks good on a smaller screen, on a huge screen it tattles on itself. Unfortunately I did not have the time to test my upscaling on my AVR as I was too busy trying to get 3d to work without giving more $ to Nvidia. Those folks, while thanks to them (and a few others) we have HTPC 3d, are simply too greedy for me. Now I just want a HDMI 1.4 or better put, high speed 3d capable unit without any BS.
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This will immediately trump the Acer just for having the Vesa 3D port, I don't want to be stuck with DLP Link or have to use my Nvidia emitter / glasses / PC setup like I currently do with the original 5360.

Right out of the box, I would use my Monster 3D vision glasses with the RF emitter that I use on my JVC RS50. Kudo's to Optoma for stepping it up a bit, competition is great to have.

now lets see some 1080P 3D DLP (besides the Sharp 17000) for the upcoming Cedia event later this year.

I could have said it better, but not much better for the most part. New game in town. Hopefully not just available at BB (like the 720) because they demand a premim unless you catch a sale. Meanwhile, no info on the 5360BD, I LOL. We shall call it the new superhero of PJs, the Phantom!
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Hello, did someone successfully use nVidia 3D vision and glasses with the H5360.inf hack?
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I could have said it better, but not much better for the most part. New game in town. Hopefully not just available at BB (like the 720) because they demand a premim unless you catch a sale. Meanwhile, no info on the 5360BD, I LOL. We shall call it the new superhero of PJs, the Phantom!
I'm guessing it has the VP3D1 processor on board and if so will not probably not support all 3D cable as we are finding out, whereas the ACER most probably will...
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it would appear to me that the GT750 from Optoma would be the best because it has the vesa port. that allows you broader options in the glasses you can run. you can basically slap on any emitter and glasses which seems to work better than dlp link.
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Just ordered my H5360BD... Now I just need to buy some glasses. Any recommendations?

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Just ordered my H5360BD... Now I just need to buy some glasses. Any recommendations?

Where did you order it from?
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