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The W1200 interests me mostly for its nice zoom flexibility and decent bang for buck.

A couple of reviews...
http://www.channelnews.com.au/Home_Cinema/J4B4G7T5

http://www.projectorcentral.com/benq...tor_review.htm


I have a few concerns that are yet to be sorted out...

1. What DMD chip does it use? (Not a DC3 like the Mitsubishi HC4000, it seems)

2. Is there a digital image shift as on the W5000 and others? Terrible shame if it doesn't...

3. Does it rely on a Dynamic Iris for decent contrast?


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I am pretty sure that it does not have digital image shift. It has auto keystone only and I think it is DC3.
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Bugger about it not having a digital vertical shift.
Such a stupid omission, and such an easy feature to have... Some dvd-players have it!

They would lose many sales over that one thing.

Surely a firmware upgrade would sort it out?


What makes you think it's a DarkChip3?


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It's definitly a Dark Chip 3.



Our new review will be soon online
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The review you linked is exactly this review. Hmmm?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/benq-w...ojector_review

Electric_Haggis,

Since the W1200 and W1100 are virtually the same projector, I was wondering if you could change the thread title to "Benq W1200 and W1100". This thread will get more traffic and exchanges of ideas that way.

I have the W1100, and I agree with all the reviews that I have read. I have not seen a budget projector that receives universal praises from across the continents. I originally wanted to buy the HC4000, but couldn't find one for $1K or less. So when I saw the W1100 for less than $1K, I took a chance. Well, after sales taxes, I ended up paying around $1,050. I didn't realize at the time that the Viewsonic Pro8200 has identical features for a little less money and a 3-year warranty. I mention this to provide information only. I have no regret buying the W1100.

The PQ, as the reviews said, is breath-taking. The 1.5:1 zoom is a godsend in my small room. The built-in speakers are surprisingly good for what they are. I am watching Transformer with those speakers right now. Late at night, I hook my wireless headphones to the audio output of the W1100 to watch movies without disturbing others. The sleep timer turns the projector off if I happen to fall asleep before the movie ends. This thing is a self-contained entertainment system. Can someone name me another $1 projector with all these features? They say competition benefits consumers. And this is very evident in the low-end market. Mitsubishi, I believe, was the first to offer DC3 and 1.5:1 zoom with the HC4000. Viewsonic followed suit and added more features with the Pro8200. Then Benq bested them both with the W1100. You see where this market is heading. I wonder what Optoma will come up with.
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No, the review will be online Monday here :

www.audiovideohd.fr
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A damn shame and a deal-breaker if there's no digital vertical shift.

Why have they omitted this, when it's really just a simple software/firmware feature with no extra hardware or optics required?
I hear the W1000 lost a fair few sales because of this - especially with the stiff LCD competition.

The W5000 has it, and it's a life-saver.



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Hi Kraine,
How do the Acer 7531d and the Mits 4000/BenQ 1200 compare? Is it worth the extra USD/Euros?

Thanks!
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no iris?
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There are no iris (dynamic or fix).

Hawkson, I haven't tested the ACER, but the W1200 is IMHO better than the mitsubishi HC4000, because it have ISF mode and also the frame interpolation.
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how do we know it has dc3 instead of dc2?
Is it written in any specs or review or ... ?
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I have the answer directly from BenQ who send me the sample that I review.
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A damn shame and a deal-breaker if there's no digital vertical shift.

Why have they omitted this, when it's really just a simple software/firmware feature with no extra hardware or optics required?
I hear the W1000 lost a fair few sales because of this - especially with the stiff LCD competition.

The W5000 has it, and it's a life-saver.


You could actually spend a bit more money and get a PJ to suit your needs. Say the W6000.
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You could actually spend a bit more money and get a PJ to suit your needs. Say the W6000.

Unfortunately, the W6000 has a different throw.
From 3.6 metres back, it can't zoom the picture back to 2.4 metres for scope films.

The W1200 can do that and then some.


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i still have my doubts about dc3 ...
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Regarding my Contrast measurements I have no doubt at all.
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Thanks Kraine, I was waiting for it.
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If using an HTPC and software to make the image, is the price difference between the W1100 and W1200 justified? It seems to me that the W1200 has better rendering software and "ISF mode and also the frame interpolation."

Can this effect be reproduced using HTPC advanced software and drivers?
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BenQ W1200 review is now online :

http://translate.google.fr/translate...Q-W1200-0.html

Good stuff! Well done.

Can you say how it compares to the W6000?


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I am noticing some graininess in the background. I am wondering if this is the digital noise that projectorreview talked about.

I am looking for a $100 - $150 manual pull-down screen to go with my W1100. Any recommendation?

I am now using a DIY black-out-cloth screen which became dirty in the middle when I moved.

Before that I used a Greywolf II screen that came with the HD70. I didn't like the grey texture. The retracting mechanism stopped working after a few months.

I appreciate any recommendation for a 92'' screen with a reliable retracting mechanism. Thanks.
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BenQ W1200 review is now online :

http://translate.google.fr/translate...Q-W1200-0.html

"If you are not amateur methods of improving the fluidity you need to work on a frequency of 23.976 fps for smooth and perfect with this projector. 1080p24 modes of our two decks BR (Sony and Panasonic) are not free from judder. Only by setting our source at 1080p and with an output of 23.976 fps that we can do it totally disappear. Same conclusion when it activates the interpolation mode images. Our seaplane Casino Royale and the yacht flew by helicopter are reproduced with perfectly fluid by positioning modes 1080p at 50 or 60hz on the BDP-100 and the PS3 or configuring our Digital Entertainer of the dune 1080p 23.976. The manufacturer should correct this issue, like the work done by Optoma HD87 on the."



Are you saying that it does not handle 1080p24 correctly?
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Best current price I have seen for the W1100 is $999 sold by one of popular online merchants here. This is with no tax + free shipping. That's better than the deal I got at Fry's. I paid $970 + tax = $1,060.
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Kraine says dc3. Review says dc2. Which is correct?

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Kraine says dc3. Review says dc2. Which is correct?

What review?
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Just bought a W1100!

Couldn't wait for the W1200 to be available for shipping to New Zealand, the 15" LCD I've been using since being robbed finally pushed me over the edge.

W1100 lacks Frame Interpolation, but I'm planning on using SVP to this on the PC side, can any one comment on Software based vs On-board FI?

I've never had a projector before, but I'll try to contribute to this thread when I receive mine... perhaps slightly after asking for calibration help.
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Just bought a W1100!

Couldn't wait for the W1200 to be available for shipping to New Zealand, the 15" LCD I've been using since being robbed finally pushed me over the edge.

W1100 lacks Frame Interpolation, but I'm planning on using SVP to this on the PC side, can any one comment on Software based vs On-board FI?

I've never had a projector before, but I'll try to contribute to this thread when I receive mine... perhaps slightly after asking for calibration help.

I've used the SVP and compared it to my projectors FI. I was surprised how well the SVP works! With the right processor, the SVP could be a tad better on content played from hard drive. The on board FI is good for live feeds, such as HDTV through the Windows Media center.
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So the BenQ W1100 got delivered today.

Had no time to play around with it, but I quickly hooked it up to a net book and run it off vga onto a roughly painted white patch done by the previous owners for a buget projector set up. No calibration either, but looks awesome already!

Looking to ceiling mount it and make a ~150" 16:9 screen from PVC pipes and artists canvas and paint.

I haven't yet looked up how to ceiling mount a projector, gotta learns me that for the weekend.
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So the BenQ W1100 got delivered today.

Had no time to play around with it, but I quickly hooked it up to a net book and run it off vga onto a roughly painted white patch done by the previous owners for a buget projector set up. No calibration either, but looks awesome already!

Looking to ceiling mount it and make a ~150" 16:9 screen from PVC pipes and artists canvas and paint.

I haven't yet looked up how to ceiling mount a projector, gotta learns me that for the weekend.

It's good to hear from another W1100 owner. I look forward to reading more of your impressions. I bought the W1100 to replace my 4 year old Optoma HD70 which still works flawlessly. The sharpness and vibrant colors are noticeably better than the HD70 and make the upgrade worth it.

For the first time last night, I ran into the problem of the projector not responding to the remote control or even pressing the buttons on the projector itself. This problem has been reported by another person before. So don't be surprised it happens to your projector. The way to turn off the projector is by pressing the power button on the projector for about 5 seconds until it turns off. The problem hasn't come back. I hope it's a one time thing.

Despite this, I still think it is an awesome projector, arguably the best value for the money in DLP land.
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