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I am confused, because Acer user guide on page 30, referring color wheel failure. Anybody undestand why? Is it possible the K330 has color wheel? I am wondering.
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I have no problem h264 content, ps3/xbox360 are same capability.
Just keep profile 4.1 or below and bit-rate must be 20mbits or below in MP4 container. I am very satisfied K330 media capability, it is same like an xbox 360, but K330 has a built in loud speaker.

The fact remains that it will not play any files I've tried. It simply will not do it. I posted a video of it which I think you've seen. None of the settings in GOTSent help. Saying it's "the same as an Xbox 360" is of no value if that means it can't play anything I want.

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Anybody knows, where is the digital zoom on K330? I couldn't find.

It does not have any zoom apart from the aspect ratio and HDMI overscan/underscan options.

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I am confused, because Acer user guide on page 30, referring color wheel failure. Anybody undestand why? Is it possible the K330 has color wheel? I am wondering.

It does not have a color wheel. Half of the manual is just copied and pasted from a different product.
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The fact remains that it will not play any files I've tried. It simply will not do it.

Overall, I am very satisfied with K330 comparing Qumi. I project image over 130" diagonal on color wall in Eco mode, and great picture and sound quality. Also, I use like a standalone media player, and comparing Qumi media capability, Acer is superior, and I can watch AVIs and of course HD h264 mp4 too. I am very happy with my Acer, fact Qumi has better for text, but not more, and in cheap home entertainment category K330 is the king, this is not question, and yes, yes:
- no focus issue
- and she has audio out
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Yes, my Acer also projects an image... What it doesn't do is play the media files I want.

It's great that you're happy with it, but you called my claim an "urban legend" without actually showing that I'm wrong (and I really do want to be shown wrong, because I do want to play them.)

Can you try playing this 22MB MKV? I would say it's a representative sample.
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you called my claim an "urban legend" without actually showing that I'm wrong

I am very thankful for your youtube video about K330, and your many post this thread. Tank you, that was very helpful.

But my experience is different, because after 20 minutes playing I found myself FF trick very easy and very fast, and also my experience is very good about HD contents playback.

I will check your sample file, and some MKV from internet, and I will post later.

Thanks Henry.
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Hey all,

Got the Acer K330 yesterday to do a comparison with the LG-HW300Y.
I was thinking about sending the HW300 back because of the HDMI aspect ratio bug and converting all video to 60Hz output. So i ordered K330 as a replacement and waited sending back the HW300 so i could do some comparisons.. i'm glad i did!

Personaly i think the K330 is no match for the HW300, maybe it's fine if you're not knowing better because of having no reference material, but for me the LG-HW300 is the clear winner... if of course they fix that awful HDMI aspect ratio bug
The K330 is also not able to play video at 24Hz, it won't even accept a 24Hz input, it just says no video signal. So what that "True24P" in the specifications means, i have no clue. The HW300 accepts 24Hz but simply converts it to 60Hz.

So okay the HW300 is less bright, but i watch video in a light controlled room so the Eco mode on the HW300 is already bright enough for me.

The YouTube video posted earlier from BeamerDiscount is pretty accurate with my findings.. and the loss in detail is not a bad focus as someone tought.

My comparison for the Acer K330 and the LG-HW300G/Y:
(+ is in favour for the LG-HW300, - is in favour for the Acer K330)

LG-HW300G/Y
+ Sharper/more detailed video.
+ Colours are much better, to me more natural. On the K330 Red, Green and Blue are very prominent, all the colours in between are a bit meh. Also there's detail missing in the white on the K330.
+ Better throw ratio.
+ Nicer menu.
+ Loads of picture adjustment settings.
+ Real Remote control.. not those stupid credit card size ones.
+ IR sensor is very strong, you can point the remote almost anywere and the PJ still picks up de command.
+ Good internal media player, plays almost any video you throw at it (when a MKV contains a DTS audio track it only plays the video though).
+ Smaller in size

- 16/9 aspect ratio bug, all video from HDMI is streched to fit 16/10.. from USB/Wifi the video is fine though.
- Less bright, highest brightness setting on the HW300 is compareable with the Eco mode on the K330.

I now really hope LG is working on a firmware update to fix the aspect ratio, because i'm starting to fall in love with the HW300.. again
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I'm sure the LG-HW300G/Y has a better picture and all, but tbh I don't think any people would touch it until that aspect ratio bug is fixed. Plus over here, in Europe anyways, the LG is considerably more expensive than the Acer.
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Yes, my Acer also projects an image... What it doesn't do is play the media files I want.

It's great that you're happy with it, but you called my claim an "urban legend" without actually showing that I'm wrong (and I really do want to be shown wrong, because I do want to play them.)

Can you try playing this 22MB MKV? I would say it's a representative sample.

Hi Henry,

I checked the video sample on my K330, its playing.. but looks like it's scambled, just like in your YouTube video.
Not something you probably want to hear, but it plays fine on the LG-HW300
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+ Better throw ratio

Not really, LG is same form factor like Qumi, with same ration, Acer knows 49.7" vs. LG has 47" on 1.5m distance.
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Not really, LG is same form factor like Qumi, with same ration, Acer knows 49.7" vs. LG has 47" on 1.5m distance.

Not really?

I tested both PJ's on the exact same position.. LG projected a larger image.

What you see in the specs is not always what you get.
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What do owners of the K330 think of the black level?

6/10. Fairly mediocre. More than good enough in my opinion though.

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Hi Henry,

I checked the video sample on my K330, its playing.. but looks like it's scambled, just like in your YouTube video.
Not something you probably want to hear, but it plays fine on the LG-HW300

Figures!!

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The K330 is also not able to play video at 24Hz, it won't even accept a 24Hz input, it just says no video signal. So what that "True24P" in the specifications means, i have no clue.

If it does say that it probably means they... Copied and paste it from some other product. Not the first time! (But not as bad as the ViewSonic clone where the specs seem to be full of nonsense.)

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I now really hope LG is working on a firmware update to fix the aspect ratio, because i'm starting to fall in love with the HW300.. again

And me one for the K330
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Is it possible to scratch lens with a clout? There is any protective film?
I had cleaned, because kids grabbed, I am afraid it was a big mistake.

Henry@ I cannot play your mkv too.
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It does not have any zoom apart from the aspect ratio and HDMI overscan/underscan options.

Hi~ Henry,
HDMI scan is in the menu --> Image --> HDMI scan info
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Wow, what a performance, I am projecting to 200 inches, 5 meters diagonal, and it is sharp, clear and bright, and no pixels.
I don't believe it,
and it is a color wall.
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Wow, what a performance, I am projecting to 200 inches, 5 meters diagonal, and it is sharp, clear and bright, and no pixels.
I don't believe it,
and it is a color wall.

On Eco mode?!
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How can this thing be ceiling mounted? I am currently using an LG hs201 which uses a standard tripod mount. Is the K330 the same?

Thanks

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On Eco mode?!

I think he's exaggerating. I thought 110" was pushing it. Maybe he has a really high gain colored wall.


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How can this thing be ceiling mounted? I am currently using an LG hs201 which uses a standard tripod mount. Is the K330 the same?

It does have a tripod mount, but you're not supposed to use that for ceiling mounting.

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It does have a tripod mount, but you're not supposed to use that for ceiling mounting.

Why? User manual shows http://www.manualowl.com/m/Acer%20Co...220216?page=41 that these holes for ceiling.
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I think he's exaggerating. I thought 110" was pushing it.

This is same hastily thoughtless comment, like there is no FF in many thread and HD content is not works.

I am very impressed with K330. Normally, I use it at 100" in bedroom like a standalone media player, but yesterday evening I projected on Hall about 8m distance, and the screen was 4.2m x 2.85m. That means the diagonal is over 5 meters, 200".

Tried both mode, Eco and Normal, and it was bright. I'd like to try bigger screen, but I have not bigger wall, I believe 250"-300" possible. What a projector!
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Why? User manual shows http://www.manualowl.com/m/Acer%20Co...220216?page=41 that these holes for ceiling.

The K330 has two separate mounting options, a single hole in the center for mounting it upright on a standard tripod, and a separate three-hole setup for ceiling mounting it upside down (shown in my picture). These are not the same thing.

That's not to say you couldn't hang it upside down from the single tripod mounting hole. It might be able to handle it without falling down, but it's not designed for that.
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I am planing to watch films on hall every evening, because it is very great experience at 200", like a cinema, but I have to do mounting cell, sure.
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This is same hastily thoughtless comment, like there is no FF in many thread and HD content is not works.

Don't be a jackass. Yes, I was wrong about the FF support. My HD complaint is however fact, and verified by both you and a third person. It's something I think poeople should be aware and that I hope a solution for is found, because I think the majority of files a standalone HD player like this would be used for are exactly the ones it cannot play.

I've run the projector for 160 hours and I think I am entitled to state my opinion on what what I consider to be acceptable. Everything stated on a forum like this is the subjective opinion of the poster. To claim that the projector can output enough light for an acceptable picture at 300" is in my opinion absurd. I settled on 80" which I feel gives an acceptable image even with a small amount of ambient light on matt white 1.0 gain in eco mode. With good light control and high gain, I'd maybe push it to 110-120". I'm talking about for actual regular watching and not just playing around.

You are of course entitled to a different opinion.
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Don't be a jackass.

Using pocket or portable projector and project over 100" or more always means dark situation, and not everyday usage. I am very impressed about 500 lumens led performance, and I never seen before a sharp, clear, bright, pixeless pictures at 200" for 500eurs.

Compared lumens of Qumi, K330 is far brighter and she has enough power for 200 inches.
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I think he's exaggerating. I thought 110" was pushing it. Maybe he has a really high gain colored wall.



It does have a tripod mount, but you're not supposed to use that for ceiling mounting.


So does it come with the adaptor plate or is that purchased separately?
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It doesn't come with anything, so you'd have to find a mount that fits.
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It doesn't come with anything, so you'd have to find a mount that fits.

What mounts are people using?
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received mine a couple days ago! I'm VERY impressed! I had the LG HS201 before so wasn't was wowed by the colour, yet 500lumens are very impressive.
It's not as loud as i thought it would be. With an external sound system I don't hear it at all (you get used to background noises up to a certain threshold)

The only drawback I'm seeng is the focus issue. It's stable and doesn't drift over time however uppter 20-30% are slightly out of focus. It's not really that bad, but it's there. You only notice it when reading text or looking at small icons though.
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BTW...I'm confused about the USB dongle thingy. Can i buy any USB dongle, or does it have to be an ACER one to be compatible? From what i understand it's simply a WiFi link via USB, so any should do!?!? Please advise.
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BTW...I'm confused about the USB dongle thingy. Can i buy any USB dongle, or does it have to be an ACER one to be compatible? From what i understand it's simply a WiFi link via USB, so any should do!?!? Please advise.

It has to be the exact specific model listed by Acer. A USB dongle requires a driver to work, and the projector only has the driver for this specific model. It's not like a computer where you can just install a new driver.
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received mine a couple days ago! I'm VERY impressed! I had the LG HS201 before so wasn't was wowed by the colour, yet 500lumens are very impressive.
It's not as loud as i thought it would be. With an external sound system I don't hear it at all (you get used to background noises up to a certain threshold)

The only drawback I'm seeng is the focus issue. It's stable and doesn't drift over time however uppter 20-30% are slightly out of focus. It's not really that bad, but it's there. You only notice it when reading text or looking at small icons though.

In regards to the 20-30% out of focus, did you notice this straight away or did this issue develop over time?
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