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First time poster... I'm trying to get a decent home theater set up at lowest cost. Just got a basically brand new Philips bsure Xg2 brilliance projecter. It has native resolution of 1024x768 pixels. I don't know a lot about all this resolution stuff. What I need to know is what DVD player do I want and what kind of cables to use? Do I need an HD dvd player? Again, I'm looking for the best picture I can get without spending more than like $50-60 for a dvd player. Thanks in advance!!
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what do you plan on doing about a screen?
do you have audio set up already?

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Yes I already have an old 84" screen (actual picture will be smaller than that) that was given to me. And I have audio too. My projector has no HDMI so I think that rules out an upconverting dvd player, right? Will a standard dvd player over component cables negate the higher resolution available on my projector and basically just give me a nasty 480p picture?
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Wow, they have not shipped the Philips bsure Xg2 since 2004.

Do they still make dvd players?

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Haha, yeah I know. Some guy bought it brand new back then and then let it sit in its case for a few years until I bought it. Only 132 total hours on it. I know all this is "old technology", but again I'm trying not to break the bank here. Just need to know what my best options are to watch DVDs... Again, will a standard dvd player over component cables negate the higher resolution available on my projector and basically just give me a 480p picture?
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You will get the best picture from a component cable. This projector will not take any digital input like HDMI or DVI.

The projector should upconvert the 480p signal to fill in the pixels on the screen. Just be aware that this is not a widescreen projector so you will have major black bars at the top and bottom.

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Yeah, black bars are fine. I still have a CRT tv, so... :-) Would I gain anything from getting a Blu-ray player and using dvd discs with it? And what if I got a blu-ray player and used blu-ray disks vs dvd disks? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to learn... Thanks for the help!
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You will get a better picture with a blu-ray disk and setting the output to 720p. The cheaper dvd and blu-ray players will likely have a lower quality upscaling ability. Not sure if you will see much difference between letting the projector do the upscaling or the video player.

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Personally, I would get a blu-ray player. It is always better to purchase the more current technology. You may want to look into ones that have apps like Netflix, Vudu, etc... These will allow you to get more use out of the player besides just playing disks.

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Personally, I would get a blu-ray player. It is always better to purchase the more current technology. You may want to look into ones that have apps like Netflix, Vudu, etc... These will allow you to get more use out of the player besides just playing disks.

Don't all of the newer BD players output 480p over component?
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Don't all of the newer BD players output 480p over component?

Not sure about all, but I recall reading about that a while back. I didn't want to say it and it not be true. I know at first it was up to the studio to decide if the blu-ray would output HD over component. I believe most studios did not limit output to 480p over component for a while. I also believe that DVDs are not upscaled by most players over component either.

More recently there has been a move to limit output to 480p over component or remove component output from the players altogether.

You may want to do some research in the blu-ray player section of the forums for all the details on this subject. Getting an older model may be in your best interest.

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Ok, I'm gonna get a blu-ray player then. But all the ones I've seen only have HDMI (like jackson said), which my projector doesn't have. Does component support 720p? And if so, is there a way to convert HDMI to component? Like maybe some kind of hdmi to component cables or something?
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Ok, I'm gonna get a blu-ray player then. But all the ones I've seen only have HDMI (like jackson said), which my projector doesn't have. Does component support 720p? And if so, is there a way to convert HDMI to component? Like maybe some kind of hdmi to component cables or something?

Yes, but doing so and maintaining HDCP is not cheap. HDFury, http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/18/hd...-via-componen/ Before going this route, you would have been better off buying a projector with DVI or HDMI. You can find decent 720P projectors in the $200 to $500 range.
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Lamo-o, so then my best bet is finding a blu-ray player that has component outputs then, right? Component can handle 720p, correct? Maybe I can find a good older used one like jackson recommended. My other hobbies are paintball, dirt bikes, and video games, so I'm trying to get a decent home theater setup for under $250 since I'm kinda broke (and the wife's cracking down...). So far I have an 84" screen, basically new "used" 720p projector, and decent audio all in place for $150, so not too shabby so far. I just don't understand all this HD stuff too well, yet.
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hook up your computer -down load vlc-plays dvd,s-free.
set res to 1024x768-native res for that pj.Try 1280x720(720p) and see if it looks better.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Philips-bSure_XG2.htm
from the specs looks like you will need rgb to vga or hdmi to rgb cable/adaptor

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so then my best bet is finding a blu-ray player that has component outputs then, right? Component can handle 720p, correct? So far I have an 84" screen, basically new "used" 720p projector, and decent audio all in place for $150, so not too shabby so far. I just don't understand all this HD stuff too well, yet.

I own a Panasonic DMP-BD65, indeed it does 720P out through component. I bought it last year on a black Friday sale for $90 free ship no tax.
It has network over Ethernet or you could put a wireless bridge on it, this would give you Netflix for $8.00 a month or other pay per view movies through the usual Vudu etc.

I see a refurbed one on eBay for $80 free ship here or if you are good at tinkering there is an as-is one for $30 plus $12 ship or best offer here, I would offer $10 and see what happens. That one would at least be a cheap Netflix player. (TV SCREEN OK. DISC TRAY WILL NOT STAY CLOSED. HAS A DENT IN IT AND A RATTLE.)

Edited: The as-is one is the player only no remote, without the remote you can't do much of anything.
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