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So I have had my HD33 since it released and it's time for a new bulb, but also I moved my screen a little so I need to remount my hd33. I was thinking of replacing my hd33 with a hd25e due to price and newer technology and hopefully not moving it again for 3yrs.... Picturewise would I be better off with just replacing the bulb?
Smallish room 135" screen with full ambient light control...
Bulb is like 95 bucks if you buy the bare bulb, I just changed one in my gt750 a couple months back.
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But is the picture or contrast or features any better with a hd25e or benq 1070 than my hd33? I know I love the simplicity of the hd33 3d glasses....
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Yeah the HD33 is bright enough and it has the best color wheel RGB/RGB. The Benq has an RGB/RGB wheel but I'd still prefer the optoma for it's better black level.
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Thanks so much for the information!! Another question I have is it easier or better to replace it with a bare bulb vs. The replacement lamp? Any gotcha or best practices replacing either? Thanks again for the help!
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Thanks so much for the information!! Another question I have is it easier or better to replace it with a bare bulb vs. The replacement lamp? Any gotcha or best practices replacing either? Thanks again for the help!
easier to replace the replacement lamp because you take out a couple of screws pull out lamp, and put in new lamp. It costs like 2 to 3 times as much.

I got an osram bulb from ebay, pulled out the lamp assembly, unscrewed it and swapped the lamp, there was a video or something I think that showed how to do it, like 4 screws or so to take the cage apart. You just need to make sure you don't touch the bare bulb, only touch the base and use paper tower or something so your skin doesn't touch the glass and get oil on it.
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1.Does hd 33 has any frimware updates
2.when i select 3d on remote side by side and top and bottom can be selected but frame sequential is unselectable
3. how to convert 2d into 3d read that in reviews optoma hd 33 can do this
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The HD33 is discontinued and when I had mine it was not user updateable you had to send it to Optoma. It has no 2D to 3D converter. Frame sequential will auto select when playing a like BR, the SBS/TOP bottom are user selectable because many of those files don't have the command to auto select those types of files.
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THANKS A LOT

IS EDID OVERRIDE NESSCARRY FOR 120 HZ t 720 p

when it selects 3d automatically it says 720 60 hz instead of 120 hz
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HDMI 1.4 spec for frame sequential 3D 720p 60hz per eye and the screen refresh rate is 120hz. 1080p 24hz screen refresh rate is 96hz. Newer projectors have triple flash for 1080p 24hz screen refresh rate is 144hz.
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HDMI 1.4 spec for frame sequential 3D 720p 60hz per eye and the screen refresh rate is 120hz. 1080p 24hz screen refresh rate is 96hz. Newer projectors have triple flash for 1080p 24hz screen refresh rate is 144hz.
Let me be more specific

when ever i run a game or movie in 3d mode enable the projector says


1. 720P 60 hz shouldnt it be 720 p 120hz


and on default with 3d enabled it says 1080p 24hz
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Let me be more specific

when ever i run a game or movie in 3d mode enable the projector says


1. 720P 60 hz shouldnt it be 720 p 120hz


and on default with 3d enabled it says 1080p 24hz
The HD33 to my knowledge (and most 3D projectors) can only accept for 3D frame sequential an input of 720p 60Hz or 1080p 24Hz. For 720p 120Hz the screen refresh rate would have to be 240Hz but the projectors max is 120Hz. For 2D or a SBS/TB it might be able to accept a 720p 120Hz signal but you would have to check the Manuel and it might not even tell you if its supported.
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The HD33 to my knowledge (and most 3D projectors) can only accept for 3D frame sequential an input of 720p 60Hz or 1080p 24Hz. For 720p 120Hz the screen refresh rate would have to be 240Hz but the projectors max is 120Hz. For 2D or a SBS/TB it might be able to accept a 720p 120Hz signal but you would have to check the Manuel and it might not even tell you if its supported.
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I have uploaded the manual pic (hd 33 ) pls explain following

1. In my screen resloution settings ----> advanced monitor not showing 120 hz as selectable


2. While sbs 3d and time sequential 3d (power dvd ) projector shows 720p 60 hz instead of 120 hz
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The Manuel clearly states 720p 120hz is not supported. Only 1024 x 768 120hz is supported. I don't know if powerDVD is capable of such a resolution. I not sure what your question is. Your clearly using a PC so video card type, drivers and software are involved and add many variables.
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I have not visited this thread in last 2 years and surprised its still going!

I started out with a HD33 which I absolutely loved but returned it for a Epson3010 for its brightness, better warranty and many other extra features and lower price back in 2012.

Now both Optoma and Epson have released new models under 1K and my Epson bulb is getting dimmer on my 150" screen. Plus my TV is broken, so may just move my Epson onto a small screen (80") to replace my TV and buy a new PJ for my 150"

I want to re-live the magic of HD33 but with a newer model. Thinking of HD25-LV for its 3200 lumens. Do you guys think this is a worthy replacement or is there another model i should be looking at?
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The BenQ 1070 is the only close replacement for the HD33. Most of the new Optoma's don't have an RGBRGB color wheel and run at 2x. HD33 has 6x RGBRGB wheel with a DC2 chip and also FI. BenQ 1070 has no FI but is DC3 chip and 6x RGBRGB with triple flash 3D that's helps over come the missing FI for 3D judder. Some of the higher optoma models are about the same as the BenQ but at about 2x the price.
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The BenQ 1070 is the only close replacement for the HD33. Most of the new Optoma's don't have an RGBRGB color wheel and run at 2x. HD33 has 6x RGBRGB wheel with a DC2 chip and also FI. BenQ 1070 has no FI but is DC3 chip and 6x RGBRGB with triple flash 3D that's helps over come the missing FI for 3D judder. Some of the higher optoma models are about the same as the BenQ but at about 2x the price.
Thats disappointing! So there is no budget successor for HD33 within Optoma line?

This review sounds encouraging.....

Optoma HD25 and HD25-LV owners
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The HD25 uses a 2x RGBRGB wheel (not the HD25e/lv) and is a very good replacement but it is discontinued also and hard to find. A refurbed HD33 would be in my opinion better choice than any of the new entry level optomas.
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The HD25 uses a 2x RGBRGB wheel (not the HD25e/lv) and is a very good replacement but it is discontinued also and hard to find. A refurbed HD33 would be in my opinion better choice than any of the new entry level optomas.
which i want to avoid as i hated the lumens on HD33. Was hoping HD36/HG50 may fit the bill.
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which i want to avoid as i hated the lumens on HD33. Was hoping HD36/HG50 may fit the bill.
Sure they will work at 2 or 3 times the price of the BenQ 1070 and when compared in reviews are no better. I can't even find them for sale in the US.
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which i want to avoid as i hated the lumens on HD33. Was hoping HD36/HG50 may fit the bill.

The HD36 is unavailable in the US but marketed elsewhere (often as the HD151X). It's only marginally pricier than the W1070+; and it's very, very bright.
Kraine posted a review on the HD36 thread: out-the-box color accuracy isn't great, but it does calibrate reasonably well (gamma tracking isn't amazing though).

For raw lumens, it's a good choice if you don't mind sacrificing black levels, shorter lamp life and some image noise. It should best Optoma's other lower-end options (HD26/HD141X/etc) for image performance. For huge screens (or very bright rooms), I reckon it's a good option.

The HD50 on the other hand, is nice but a bit pricey for its image performance.

Keep in mind that your old HD33 only calibrated to around 900 lumens: the BenQ rekbones mentions is nearly double as bright; so it'd still be a big improvement in brightness. It's also very color-accurate out-the-box with better black levels than the HD36 and longer lamp life and cheaper lamps (with no image noise); so it's a good option if you think it'll be bright enough (for most people, it is).

Otherwise get the HD36.
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The HD36 is unavailable in the US but marketed elsewhere (often as the HD151X). It's only marginally pricier than the W1070+; and it's very, very bright.
Kraine posted a review on the HD36 thread: out-the-box color accuracy isn't great, but it does calibrate reasonably well (gamma tracking isn't amazing though).

For raw lumens, it's a good choice if you don't mind sacrificing black levels, shorter lamp life and some image noise. It should best Optoma's other lower-end options (HD26/HD141X/etc) for image performance. For huge screens (or very bright rooms), I reckon it's a good option.

The HD50 on the other hand, is nice but a bit pricey for its image performance.

Keep in mind that your old HD33 only calibrated to around 900 lumens: the BenQ rekbones mentions is nearly double as bright; so it'd still be a big improvement in brightness. It's also very color-accurate out-the-box with better black levels than the HD36 and longer lamp life and cheaper lamps (with no image noise); so it's a good option if you think it'll be bright enough (for most people, it is).

Otherwise get the HD36.
Darn! Missed a deal on Amazon today for $639 for 1070
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