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An HD3300 from AVS. Excellent price for those who are curious, though it will be very interesting how the new Epson stacks up aqainst the Optomas...

I wouldn't worry about it you got the best machine. Thanks for supporting AVS. Just wait till you see this projector in action. Bright, clean noise free images. Zero crosstalk/ghosting with 3D, punchy color. You'll see let us know what you think once you've seen it.

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My own review is now online :

http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/298-Optoma-HD33-0.html
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Well...I got my 3D glasses yesterday from AVS....just waiting on a tracking number for my 3300 from AVS...

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My own review is now online :

http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/298-Optoma-HD33-0.html

Thanks, that was a good review and easy to read through Google Translate.
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Can anyone tell me how the HD3300 compares with the BenQ W6000 in 2D performance? I'm torn between the 2!
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None at all!

I can second that! It is pretty amazing.

On a separate note, I won't actually be back around my projector until this weekend so hopefully then I can start helping answer some questions.
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My own review is now online :

http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/298-Optoma-HD33-0.html

You state that contrast is 10,000:1 and ansi is 500:1. Curious where you got these stats and how they compare to US on/off rating of 4000:1.
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Can anyone tell me how the HD3300 compares with the BenQ W6000 in 2D performance? I'm torn between the 2!

Have you read Art's review of the unit http://www.projectorreviews.com/optoma/hd33/image.php? 2D will go to the W6000 easily. Of course you don't get 3D.

Actually kraine posted these numbers for contrast, High contrast lamp: 1794:1 on: off, Low light contrast: 2500:1 on: off .
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so is this "moo" sound something it just does when it's switching to 3d or does it stay moo-ing?
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Nice review and photos kraine. Expecting my HD33 delivery today, so excited as this is my first 3D anything after seeing 'Avatar' in the theater 2 years ago.

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so i am definitely getting the Hd3300, figuring with AVS, why not? it will be some time next week before I order, hope there is stock left!


Does AVS also sell mounts or mount plates for it?
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so is this "moo" sound something it just does when it's switching to 3d or does it stay moo-ing?

luckily it lasts only for a few sec during the switching
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My own review is now online :

http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/298-Optoma-HD33-0.html

I love the cross-talk test ! This is how all displays have to be tested - objectively ! Wonder if they should come up with some kind of cross-talk suppression factor or something in the future to compare apples to apples
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so i am definitely getting the Hd3300, figuring with AVS, why not? it will be some time next week before I order, hope there is stock left!


Does AVS also sell mounts or mount plates for it?

Yes we do. We sell Chief mounts if interested.

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I love the cross-talk test ! This is how all displays have to be tested - objectively ! Wonder if they should come up with some kind of cross-talk suppression factor or something in the future to compare apples to apples

Yup, in my experience it's more about shutter glass delay than projector.
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You state that contrast is 10,000:1 and ansi is 500:1. Curious where you got these stats and how they compare to US on/off rating of 4000:1.

This stats are the officials number given by Optoma in Europe. My stats are much lower after calibration.
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Yes we do. We sell Chief mounts if interested.

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I just wanted to give Benito a +1 with my experience purchasing the HD3300. Transaction could not have gone any smoother. My HD3300 is shipping out today and I am returning my HD33 to Amazon.

The only thing that could be better is if he would come down and install all this stuff for me .

Thanks Benito!
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I just wanted to give Benito a +1 with my experience purchasing the HD3300. Transaction could not have gone any smoother. My HD3300 is shipping out today and I am returning my HD33 to Amazon.

The only thing that could be better is if he would come down and install all this stuff for me .

Thanks Benito!

If you don't mind me asking, were there any performance or technical reasons for returning the HD33 and selecting the HD3300?
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The projectors are named differently on the UK Optoma website:

US - HD33(white) = Euro - HD300x(black)
US - HD3300(black) = Euro - HD33(white)

When you see European reviews then you have to make the above adjustment.

(Thanks to kbfern for clarifying.)
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I just wanted to give Benito a +1 with my experience purchasing the HD3300. Transaction could not have gone any smoother. My HD3300 is shipping out today and I am returning my HD33 to Amazon.

The only thing that could be better is if he would come down and install all this stuff for me .

Thanks Benito!

Looks like I missed the first shipment even though I pre-ordered the morning of the announcement? Did you just order yours today?

Hope the next shipment comes in tomorrow, but its a bummer not to have it by this weekend.
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This stats are the officials number given by Optoma in Europe. My stats are much lower after calibration.

So based on messages after yours, it looks like you actually reviewed the US equivalent of the HD3300 then?

"US - HD33(white) = Euro - HD300x(black)
US - HD3300(black) = Euro - HD33(white)"
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If you don't mind me asking, were there any performance or technical reasons for returning the HD33 and selecting the HD3300?

I bought the HD33 because I was not sure when I would be able to get my hands on the HD3300. I am completely happy with the HD33 PQ, however I would prefer a black projector. This alone was not enough to return the HD33, but from my previous posts, you will see that my HD33 has a very annoying vibration that does not turn off until a movie is played. Since I am returning the HD33 because of this vibration, and the HD3300 is now available, I figured I would go with it.

Hope that helps.
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So based on messages after yours, it looks like you actually reviewed the US equivalent of the HD3300 then?

"US - HD33(white) = Euro - HD300x(black)
US - HD3300(black) = Euro - HD33(white)"

Not clear as he mentions "Brightness 1800 ANSI Lumens" which is from HD33
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I just found out about this projector about 10 minutes ago, and I'm very excited about it, but have a couple of questions:

1. What does this mean?

"120Hz Frame Sequential 3D for
Resolutions Up to 720p"


Does this mean that we aren't actually going to get 1080p to each eye for 3D Blu Ray? If so, then why is everybody so hyped up over this "1080p" 3D projector?


2. The offset is 116 percent.

I currently have a Optoma HD7100, and I've done some google searches to try to figure out the offset, but I actually haven't found specific numbers for the offset yet. I'm wondering if the offset is very similar to what I already have. I'm also guessing that this is a short throw projector, like what I already have.

3. No lens shift, so I can't really do 2:35:1 the way I would like to.

4. Doesn't have enough zoom to do true CIH.



Now, if only they have a step up model that has both horizontal and vertical lens shift, as well as more zoom so I can do true CIH, then I'd be in business!
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3D Notes

We have selected six evaluation criteria:
the effect of depth generated that relates to the ability of the diffuser to generate this impression.
the posting of objects or people, that feeling of seeing them float in front of the screen
artifacts splitting image (ghosting, crosstalking, ghosting ...)
the impact of the use of glasses on the brightness
the fluidity of the image in the shots
the presence or absence of deformation of the contours of the characters in motion

Here are our notes (of 5) 3D (pending review of our system of graph):
Effect depth: 5
Posting of items: 5
Crosstalking: 5
Brightness: 5
Flow: 5
Motion artifacts: 5 Total: 30/30 the HD33 and RF device glasses took the lead in our ranking of the best 3D projectors and receives an award for this innovation avhd and rendering.
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I just found out about this projector about 10 minutes ago, and I'm very excited about it, but have a couple of questions:

1. What does this mean?

"120Hz Frame Sequential 3D for
Resolutions Up to 720p"


Does this mean that we aren't actually going to get 1080p to each eye for 3D Blu Ray? If so, then why is everybody so hyped up over this "1080p" 3D projector?


2. The offset is 116 percent.

I currently have a Optoma HD7100, and I've done some google searches to try to figure out the offset, but I actually haven't found specific numbers for the offset yet. I'm wondering if the offset is very similar to what I already have. I'm also guessing that this is a short throw projector, like what I already have.

3. No lens shift, so I can't really do 2:35:1 the way I would like to.

4. Doesn't have enough zoom to do true CIH.



Now, if only they have a step up model that has both horizontal and vertical lens shift, as well as more zoom so I can do true CIH, then I'd be in business!

There is and it is called the Optoma HD8300, but it has manual shift, focus and zoom. You need to step up to some thing like the JVC RS45 to get motorized lens shift and zoom. It also gets you lens memory system.
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It could be the firmware, mine has firmware C02. If you have an earlier firmware you can arrange with customer service to install it. C02 adds Color & Tint control for the 1080p signals 2D and 3D.

Soooo, has any of the HD33 owners been able to check their firmware and comfirmed that you can indeed access the color/tint etc menus??

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Whata sharpness like on this projector ?
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I just found out about this projector about 10 minutes ago, and I'm very excited about it, but have a couple of questions:

1. What does this mean?

"120Hz Frame Sequential 3D for
Resolutions Up to 720p"


Does this mean that we aren't actually going to get 1080p to each eye for 3D Blu Ray? If so, then why is everybody so hyped up over this "1080p" 3D projector?

It means you can basically send it a 120hz 720p signal, where each 720p left eye is one frame and then the right eye is one frame within 120hz. This is the signal most 3D 720p projectors can handle outside the 1.4 spec.

Modes within the 1.4 spec are:

For movie content (3D blu-ray):
•Frame Packing (Full HD 3D or FHD3D) ◦1080p at 23.98/24Hz with each frame having resolution 1920×2205, containing lossless sub-frames for the left and right eye.


For game content (I think PS3 does this):
•Frame Packing (2 – 720p frames packed in over/under or top-and-bottom configuration) ◦720p at 50 or 59.94/60Hz


For broadcast content (think cable and satellite):
•Side-by-Side Horizontal 3D ◦1080i @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz

•Top-and-Bottom (Over/under) 3D ◦720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz


The projectors has to have a computer processor onboard to handle all these signals and feed them to the projector. Most 720p projectors (and some 1080p) require an external processor--and many use a computer to do this, but usually a computer does 120hz frame sequential only. And a another type of 1.4 processor is required like the 3D-XL to handle the full 1.4 spec.
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Anybody try 2D to 3D conversion from a Samsung player? I just got a BD-C6800 today, it's supposed to do 2D to 3D but I'm having trouble. I set the players res to auto and set the Optoma to SBS seems the sync is off.

What do you do to get these Samsungs to work?

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