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post #511 of 1017 Old 03-07-2012, 07:04 AM
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mulpha,

Thanks for the video you posted on YouTube back in January, it was the factor that finally pushed me toward the AR100U. Much obliged!


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I noticed that projector central mentioned something about above average image noise with the AR100. What's up with that? Any owner experienced this?
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I just installed the projector.
The picture quality is amazing.

No digital noise of any kind that i could notice.

I installed in my dedicated theater room with full light control.

I was worried that it might be too bright, given what everyone was talking about. But it is not an issue at all.

I am running on REC709 (Hollywood tuning) pciture. I also switched to economy bulb mode. This one produces the lowest brightness picture is well suited for a light controlled room.

I am coming from a 720p Mitsubishi HC3000 DLP projector. And i was impressed with the quality of the picture being put out by the projector.


Image can be stretched in many ways.

For those with anamorphic lens and a 2.35 screen, V-FIT will stretch it vertcally to fill the screen.

For those of us with 2.35 without anamorphic lens, you can mask the top and bottom.

The only snag i ran into is around mounting. I have high cielings in the basement where this theater is located. My mount has a long extension arm. Even with the Arm, the projector was throwing the picture on to the cieling.

I had to tilt it way down. I have to get a bigger extension arm.

Edit: Nevermind the tilt. I did not adjust the lens shift right. All is well now, do not need any crazy mount adjustments.

Edit: seems like the "mask area" just chops the picture off. The projector still projects black in that space.
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It is not the same thing as using an anamorphic lens, stretching then compressing etc.

It does 2.35 by chopping off pixels on the top and bottom, which is what i am looking for.

There is a masking and position features listed in the manual, that allow you to primarily mask content from top and bottom being projected. Similar to Mitsubishi's 2.35 screen mode.

My goal is to project on a 2.35:1 screen, without needing an anamorphic lens, and not have light spillage beyond the screen.
And i don't want to use one of those external DIY light masking contraptions either.

I will report back with results once i get it installed.

glad this worked as i was waiting for your reply. guess its time to pull the trigger!!
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Just to clarify, when displaying 2.35 the projector doesn't emit any light to the top and bottom bars?
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mulpha,

Thanks for the video you posted on YouTube back in January, it was the factor that finally pushed me toward the AR100U. Much obliged!


Awesome! You're welcome!

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Yes, that is what i could see. But let me confirm it again tonight.

I have a light brownish paint on the walls. it is hard to see any light spillage.

I will check closely again, but masking does appear to block it pretty well.

I am also on a very low light output mode (REC709, Economy bulb mode etc.)

Light spillage was apparent before in the same setup with my DLP projector until i selected 2.35 mode.



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Just to clarify, when displaying 2.35 the projector doesn't emit any light to the top and bottom bars?

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seems like the "mask area" just chops the picture off. The projector still projects black in that space.

So you will see some light spillage in the masked area. It just gives you the ability to keep the picture clean and only on the screen.
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I have a 100 inch fixed frame screen. I want to mount this pj on the ceiling about 13ft. away from screen. But i have to mount it 3 ft. off center. Will this work? Will i lose any picture quality? Thanks in advance
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Three feet is a lot to correct with horizontal lens shift. I doubt it will work.
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What would be the most i could shift it?
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Horizontal shift is only 26% of the projection screen width. Even if your screen is 100 inches wide that only gives you 26 inches shift left to right. I suspect your 100 inches is diagonal.
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Yeah its a diagonal 100. I doubled checked last night i can get it to atleast 2 ft. to center but thats it. Would that work?
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Yeah its a diagonal 100. I doubled checked last night i can get it to atleast 2 ft. to center but thats it. Would that work?

I see you are a new member and the people on the forum are great about helping others with questions. I gave you the percentage horizontal lens shift, measure the width of you screen and do the math. Also, the maximum horizontal lens shift is dependent on you not using any vertical lens shift at all.
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Thanks but i really don't want to piss no one off but i suck at math. So i am confused can someone explain lens shift to me
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Thanks but i really don't want to piss no one off but i suck at math. So i am confused can someone explain lens shift to me

http://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/lens_shift.asp
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Looking at the PT-AR100U to replace my almost five year old PT-AX100U (7723 hours on the clock shared between two bulbs). Even though the AX100U has been a champ, I am hesitant to spend close to $300 on another bulb for a projector with that many hours. That is what got me looking around for a 1080P projector at a reasonable price. The AR100U seems to fit the bill. I am looking forward to the full review of it on projectorreviews.com. The "first look" information that was linked to on the previous page sounds promising ( http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...t-look-review/ )
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Looking at the PT-AR100U to replace my almost five year old PT-AX100U (7723 hours on the clock shared between two bulbs). Even though the AX100U has been a champ, I am hesitant to spend close to $300 on another bulb for a projector with that many hours. That is what got me looking around for a 1080P projector at a reasonable price. The AR100U seems to fit the bill. I am looking forward to the full review of it on projectorreviews.com. The "first look" information that was linked to on the previous page sounds promising ( http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...t-look-review/ )

Coming from the AX100U I don't really think the upcoming Projector Review is going to push you away from the AR100U especially if your needs have remained the same, ie. the need for a bright multipurpose projector. The biggest differences in an upgrade being the lumens 2800 (up from 2000), contrast 50,000:1 (up from 6,000:1) and 1080p versus 720p.

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I'm still unsure what the warranty is on this model. I saw someplace 2,000 hours. Can anyone share what it is. I saw one rebate where it seems to cut it to 2,000 hours , not counting bulb. Then somewhere else 3 years? So it was confusing me.
Also, on bulb life it's 2,000 for regular and 3,000 for eco mode with 400 dollar bulb replacement , is that correct? Seems like low lamp hours compared to others at this price range. Aren't most of the new models like 3,000-4,000 or 3,000-5000 and the bulbs are cheaper for other models.
Please clarify if you can thanks.
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I'm still unsure what the warranty is on this model. I saw someplace 2,000 hours. Can anyone share what it is. I saw one rebate where it seems to cut it to 2,000 hours , not counting bulb. Then somewhere else 3 years? So it was confusing me.

1 Year (Or 2000 hours) Limited Parts & Labor, 90 Days or 500 Hours on Lamp, Manufacturer-only return and repair. Back in January when I purchased this projector for $1300 there was a rebate for a 3 year warranty which I took. That particular rebate ended in early February.

EDIT: Doesn't matter if it is a 1 year or 3 year warranty it's still 2000 hours no matter what.

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Also, on bulb life it's 2,000 for regular and 3,000 for eco mode with 400 dollar bulb replacement , is that correct? Seems like low lamp hours compared to others at this price range. Aren't most of the new models like 3,000-4,000 or 3,000-5000 and the bulbs are cheaper for other models. Please clarify if you can thanks.

Yes, you are correct. No clarification needed.

The upside is that the price for the AR100U has dropped to $1000 and any owner will tell you this is a bargain. Given your penchant for longer bulb life/cost including a longer warranty and if they are your sole concerns then something like the Epson 8350 is probably a better match for you.

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I was reloading the review page often this weekend waiting for this review to go live. 73

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Coming from the AX100U I don't really think the upcoming Projector Review is going to push you away from the AR100U especially if your needs have remained the same, ie. the need for a bright multipurpose projector. The biggest differences in an upgrade being the lumens 2800 (up from 2000), contrast 50,000:1 (up from 6,000:1) and 1080p versus 720p.

You were right. Nothing in the review pushed me away..... drew me in for sure. My room is dedicated and has good light control (although the walls not covered by dark red drapes are white-ish), but I often find myself watching with some lights on to accommodate my wife and daughter when they join me. I think this projector will be a nice 1080P option to my AX100U.
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...I think this projector will be a nice 1080P option to my AX100U.

It was for me. I upgraded from an AX200U and haven't looked back since. I'm MORE than satisfied with with the projector. The 1080p upgrade plus everything else the projector offers (including a long throw which I needed), made it a no brainer for me.

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It was for me. I upgraded from an AX200U and haven't looked back since. I'm MORE than satisfied with with the projector. The 1080p upgrade plus everything else the projector offers (including a long throw which I needed), made it a no brainer for me.

I'm a current AX200 owner getting close to pulling the trigger on an upgrade. Honestly the biggest concern I have about the AR100 (now that it's down to $1,000 street) is the size. It seems significantly larger than the AX200 in every dimension. Is it as big in real life as it is on paper? lol
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I'm a current AX200 owner getting close to pulling the trigger on an upgrade. Honestly the biggest concern I have about the AR100 (now that it's down to $1,000 street) is the size. It seems significantly larger than the AX200 in every dimension. Is it as big in real life as it is on paper? lol

Yes, it's big. No doubt about that. Much bigger than the AX200. But, it fit right in my space fine (ceiling mount) and worked with my existing mount.

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Big is good! It almost certainly means that the electronics, optical system, and bulb are running a lot cooler than in a smaller package.
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Big is good! It almost certainly means that the electronics, optical system, and bulb are running a lot cooler than in a smaller package.

I was thinking the same thing. How about the eight pound increase in weight? I could see a little heavier for a larger power supply to support another 60W for the bulb assembly, but not eight pounds. That would be a great thing if it had a few more pounds of heatsink in there.

JoeTiVo, I remember you from the PT-AX100U forum. You bought yours right about the same time I bought mine. This is at least your third Panny then.
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Great review!

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I'm a current AX200 owner getting close to pulling the trigger on an upgrade. Honestly the biggest concern I have about the AR100 (now that it's down to $1,000 street) is the size. It seems significantly larger than the AX200 in every dimension. Is it as big in real life as it is on paper? lol

The AX200 projector is only slighter bigger, about 2 inches wider and 1" deeper, than my old AE900U. I posted a picture back in post #452 give you some idea of the size difference.

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Yes, it's big. No doubt about that. Much bigger than the AX200. But, it fit right in my space fine (ceiling mount) and worked with my existing mount.

Honestly if I had a ceiling mount I would likely have already bought an AR100. But sadly, I have a small shelf on the rear wall that is only 14" or 15" deep. My old AE900 and current AX200 fit quite nicely, with a couple inches clearance behind for cables and the front of the unit just about flush with the front of the shelf. When I bought the shelf I incorrectly assumed that as technology advanced projectors would get smaller over time. lol I guess I can consider buying a 16" shelf, but if the unit is actually 15" deep I'm not sure I'd have sufficient rear clearance. How much does the lens protrude from the front of the unit? I could have that stick over the edge of the shelf.
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