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Amber Ale's Avatar Amber Ale 01:20 PM 10-15-2011
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Originally Posted by jimmybean44 View Post

one member that really likes black diamond, read comments from a guy from Mississpi who really likes the paint fumes

lol


Last time I was in Best Buy, Magnolia they had a blackdiamond set up. It was good for daytime viewing (lights on), but if you had a batcave you wouldn't need it. Also they guy I talked to said there were issues if you were going to calibrate your projector with it.

Found these on google image search but this is the idea






Youtube video

zoey67's Avatar zoey67 01:33 PM 10-15-2011
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Originally Posted by Amber Ale View Post

lol


Last time I was in Best Buy, Magnolia they had a blackdiamond set up. It was good for daytime viewing (lights on), but if you had a batcave you wouldn't need it. Also they guy I talked to said there were issues if you were going to calibrate your projector with it.

Found these on google image search but this is the idea

Now this deserve to be post of the month! thanks who ever you are...you just saved a lot of $$$ for a lot of folks including me. Good job man
elmalloc's Avatar elmalloc 03:25 PM 10-15-2011
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Now this deserve to be post of the month! thanks who ever you are...you just saved a lot of $$$ for a lot of folks including me. Good job man

Huh? Apparently you didn't see my post 2 pages ago. Also, a black diamond DOES do well (according to them) in a completely dark room, if you don't have non reflective surfaces on the ceiling, wall, and floor (which many don't). You don't need this screen!! I'm just saying it's pretty nifty. I don't even use a screen!






elmalloc's Avatar elmalloc 03:26 PM 10-15-2011
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Originally Posted by jimmybean44 View Post

okay i think i have just impressed my wife with all my surfing...
and i didnt even have to get wet....

I did see some video of guy named blake who was watching for the ceiling to go dark...
Recon all he needed to do was paint the thing but he said this fancy screen will make your ceiling dissapear ,,
Kinda like a vegas act .. i dont know
all i saw was i could see a white ceiling then it was dark...

so maybe that can help you feel better...
okay i am almost done with this surfing gonna watch he haw ...

one more thing about that member taking all them pictures
I remember watching dukes of hazzard and seeing daisy for the first time
in them shorts
i didnt need to see her in them 300 times to know they looked good on her..
how about you take that camera and lock it up...
the screen looks good i get the point....

Time for A glass of bean and he haw...

flat black paint is still reflective, you have to go a step above (fabric). Most only go with paint and think it's all good. You want a black hole. Until you see this....
elmalloc's Avatar elmalloc 03:27 PM 10-15-2011
Also sprocket - how has the 3D been working with IR emitter?
defiancecp's Avatar defiancecp 04:43 PM 10-15-2011
It's how the projector communicates with the glasses. There are a bunch of different ways out there, depending on brand/model/year/phase-of-the-moon/etc.

The IR emitter is simply an infared LED array on the front of the projector. If flashes human-invisible infared pulses onto the screen, the glasses pick up the patterns of those pulses, and that's how they know when to black out left/right/both eyes.

Other systems use different methods - DLP link is similar, but actually has a flash emitted directly from the DLP chip between frames. The Optoma competitor uses a radio frequency connection to the glasses. Others use IR but have an external emitter that mounts near the screen (the epson has this as an optional accessory).
elmalloc's Avatar elmalloc 05:22 PM 10-15-2011
I have a feeling RF is superior but we'll see. I read IR you can sometimes lose sync from standing up or just turning your head (yikes).

I'm gonna be playing some PS3 3D games hopefully where I'm standing up and gegtting some exercise, if they lose sync...argh-a-thon.
Amber Ale's Avatar Amber Ale 06:34 PM 10-15-2011
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 08:42 PM 10-15-2011
Hey amber ale, let's just cross out the 2K+ screens for now bec I just think that's too much to spend on a 3010 or 5010. But what do you think is a good compromise...do you think a $600 carada screen or entry SI is worth it for a 3010? or is a Elite or draper $100 screen is about 80% of the carada's?
Mikes2cents's Avatar Mikes2cents 01:20 AM 10-16-2011
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Originally Posted by sprocket360 View Post

This is the less than 3k forum which means for me I'm on a budget.

Thank you, and sorry if I screwed up your thread. Look forward to your further observations.
keithtv's Avatar keithtv 06:50 AM 10-16-2011
Sprocket360, I am on the fence between the epson 3010, 5010, or even panny 7000 for lens shift. Many panny 7000 owners are starting to see ghosting on their units. Since panny is using the processor as the epson, I'm now worring about the epson 3D. I dont want to go with the Optoma 3300 since the contrast is so low, 2D movie must not be good on it. Have you experienced any 3d ghosting on your unit? If you do, this is really going to put me back to square one. Thanks you for your time.
elmalloc's Avatar elmalloc 06:56 AM 10-16-2011
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Hey amber ale, let's just cross out the 2K+ screens for now bec I just think that's too much to spend on a 3010 or 5010. But what do you think is a good compromise...do you think a $600 carada screen or entry SI is worth it for a 3010? or is a Elite or draper $100 screen is about 80% of the carada's?

Those screens are not 2k. That's msrp, this isn't the supermarket.
BobL's Avatar BobL 07:18 AM 10-16-2011
I don't know what AVS sells the BD for but the MSRP of a 16:9 100" is $2699. A nice screen but blows the budget for many. I'm not sure what size the poster is looking for but you won't find it too far below $2k.
elmalloc's Avatar elmalloc 07:21 AM 10-16-2011
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I don't know what AVS sells the BD for but the MSRP of a 16:9 100" is $2699. A nice screen but blows the budget for many. I'm not sure what size the poster is looking for but you won't find it too far below $2k.

That may or may not be true. Anyway let's keep it on the 3010 topic.
3dfan's Avatar 3dfan 10:22 AM 10-16-2011
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Originally Posted by keithtv View Post

Sprocket360, I am on the fence between the epson 3010, 5010, or even panny 7000 for lens shift. Many panny 7000 owners are starting to see ghosting on their units. Since panny is using the processor as the epson, I'm now worring about the epson 3D. I dont want to go with the Optoma 3300 since the contrast is so low, 2D movie must not be good on it. Have you experienced any 3d ghosting on your unit? If you do, this is really going to put me back to square one. Thanks you for your time.

If epson shows even a little bit of this ghosting, its a dead end for me.

Optoma users pride themselves about no ghosting.....also it has RF glasses which give the user great flexibility to tune out ghosting if it ever arises in the future...Epson is locked onto its inflixible IR technology which cant be tuned.

People visiting this forum must be interested in 3D (else there are better 2D PJ w/o the 3D price tag) and so cant imagine how Epson will be an option for them if it has ghosting.

SPROCKET are you still reading this thread you started ? care to comment on ghosting as seen in similar movies as the Panny user did ?
iMake's Avatar iMake 01:42 PM 10-16-2011
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Originally Posted by 3dfan View Post

If epson shows even a little bit of this ghosting, its a dead end for me.

Optoma users pride themselves about no ghosting.....also it has RF glasses which give the user great flexibility to tune out ghosting if it ever arises in the future...Epson is locked onto its inflixible IR technology which cant be tuned.

People visiting this forum must be interested in 3D (else there are better 2D PJ w/o the 3D price tag) and so cant imagine how Epson will be an option for them if it has ghosting.

SPROCKET are you still reading this thread you started ? care to comment on ghosting as seen in similar movies as the Panny user did ?

yeah I have the same issue as you, I want to get crosstalk-free 3d but don't want to go with optoma and sacrifice 2d contrast.
how would rf prevent crosstalk though? /noobquestion
3dfan's Avatar 3dfan 02:27 PM 10-16-2011
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yeah I have the same issue as you, I want to get crosstalk-free 3d but don't want to go with optoma and sacrifice 2d contrast.
how would rf prevent crosstalk though? /noobquestion

Apparently Optoma RF glasses come with an emitter that allows full control of the duty-cycle and on/off switching times of glasses...so the user can tune out cross-talk perfectly.
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 03:15 PM 10-16-2011
What happened to sprocket? It was like he teased us with the unwrapping and left us hanging.
lespurgeon's Avatar lespurgeon 03:19 PM 10-16-2011
A bottle of Jim Beam and a bed sheet, that is the best way to experience any projector.

sprocket,
Yeah, you are probably the target user for the 3010, not light devoid, but can deal with no lens shift. I would say don't worry about being single and no kids, with all the interest in you here you will have a marriage proposal in no time, then I realized we are all middle-aged men, and won't be any help to you in that way...
3dfan's Avatar 3dfan 03:25 PM 10-16-2011
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

What happened to sprocket? It was like he teased us with the unwrapping and left us hanging.

Yeah, it feels like you went to a party where the host gave appetizers and when you are ready for full meal, he took off to see a movie

I am done chekcing this thread periodically for any tantalizing infor from him...
dave1969's Avatar dave1969 04:59 PM 10-16-2011
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Originally Posted by 3dfan View Post

Yeah, it feels like you went to a party where the host gave appetizers and when you are ready for full meal, he took off to see a movie

I am done chekcing this thread periodically for any tantalizing infor from him...

wow its been 5 whole days. People have lives. You sound like a baby
armandxp's Avatar armandxp 05:19 PM 10-16-2011
Has anyone really gave a review of the 3d capabilities of the 3010 in this thread? I seemed to have missed it. Would love to hear some more 'on subject' talk about this projector. :-)
3dfan's Avatar 3dfan 09:26 PM 10-17-2011
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Originally Posted by armandxp View Post

Has anyone really gave a review of the 3d capabilities of the 3010 in this thread? I seemed to have missed it. Would love to hear some more 'on subject' talk about this projector. :-)

No....sproket has abandoned this thread....and you will be called a baby if you point the obvious !
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 09:49 PM 10-17-2011
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No....sproket has abandoned this thread....and you will be called a baby if you point the obvious !

Fk him he's the baby ...around here for something like this that's been on everyone's mind hell 5 hrs is an eternity nevermind 5 days.
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 09:51 PM 10-17-2011
Sprocket did say he was sick, so I'd give him a break. Official reviews will be out in a couple of days, but it will take a while longer to get more user reviews anyway.
armandxp's Avatar armandxp 03:34 AM 10-18-2011
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Originally Posted by 3dfan View Post

No....sproket has abandoned this thread....and you will be called a baby if you point the obvious !

Too funny....Yeah, I can't wait for the reviews to start rolling in. I've always loved following the Epson threads. Can't wait to hear how problem free the first generation of Epson 3D projectors are.
dsr2011's Avatar dsr2011 09:36 PM 10-18-2011
Contrary to all the suspicion on Utah guy (most thought that was not real) ... just as he promised he (ordered on Friday evening 3:30pm), delivered at Colorado today (Tuesday) at 6pm by UPS. Original Epson package (unopened with factory seal).

It took less than 5 minutes to set it up.... 106" diagonal. screen, 2D images are excellant and 3D (original 3D movie - Narnia & Avatar are excellant under dark to minimal lights -lights behind projector; Simulated 3D - Blu-ray player converting 2D - 3D is very good too. Color, Brightness, Contrast are very good at 106 inches). Used a High Contrast Grey Draper screen.

Negatives: 3D glasses doesn't come with rechargeable batteries; Lack of vertical shift means some additional effort for correct position; I wouldn't worry about Wi-Fi since a $100 Cisco dongle did very well.

I welcome anyone suggestions on 3D glasses with rechargeable option (after-market). For the cheap price this is worth it.
inefekt's Avatar inefekt 10:24 PM 10-18-2011
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Originally Posted by dsr2011 View Post

Contrary to all the suspicion on Utah guy (most thought that was not real) ... just as he promised he (ordered on Friday evening 3:30pm), delivered at Colorado today (Tuesday) at 6pm by UPS. Original Epson package (unopened with factory seal).

It took less than 5 minutes to set it up.... 106" diagonal. screen, 2D images are excellant and 3D (original 3D movie - Narnia & Avatar are excellant under dark to minimal lights -lights behind projector; Simulated 3D - Blu-ray player converting 2D - 3D is very good too. Color, Brightness, Contrast are very good at 106 inches). Used a High Contrast Grey Draper screen.

Negatives: 3D glasses doesn't come with rechargeable batteries; Lack of vertical shift means some additional effort for correct position; I wouldn't worry about Wi-Fi since a $100 Cisco dongle did very well.

I welcome anyone suggestions on 3D glasses with rechargeable option (after-market). For the cheap price this is worth it.

Have you had any experience with DLP 3D and if so how does the 3D compare? Do you think the Epson is bright enough in 3D......did that even enter your mind as you were watching?
Cheers and enjoy your new toy

Oh, I hear that Panasonic glasses (inc 3rd gen) will work with the Epson, not sure if they are rechargeable though???
defiancecp's Avatar defiancecp 05:50 AM 10-19-2011
The newest panasonics are rechargeable. TY-EW3D3LU (large), TY-EW3D3MU (medium), or TY-EW3D3SU (small) are the ones that are supposedly compatible. I found a place that sells them pretty cheap, provantage. Haven't got them in yet, so can't attest to the validity of the seller though.
Also, the monster vision glasses/emitter package should be compatible since it includes an IR interpreter. I'll be testing that out as soon as my stuff gets here.
audionewer's Avatar audionewer 07:32 AM 10-19-2011
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Originally Posted by dsr2011 View Post

Contrary to all the suspicion on Utah guy (most thought that was not real) ... just as he promised he (ordered on Friday evening 3:30pm), delivered at Colorado today (Tuesday) at 6pm by UPS. Original Epson package (unopened with factory seal).

It took less than 5 minutes to set it up.... 106" diagonal. screen, 2D images are excellant and 3D (original 3D movie - Narnia & Avatar are excellant under dark to minimal lights -lights behind projector; Simulated 3D - Blu-ray player converting 2D - 3D is very good too. Color, Brightness, Contrast are very good at 106 inches). Used a High Contrast Grey Draper screen.

Negatives: 3D glasses doesn't come with rechargeable batteries; Lack of vertical shift means some additional effort for correct position; I wouldn't worry about Wi-Fi since a $100 Cisco dongle did very well.

I welcome anyone suggestions on 3D glasses with rechargeable option (after-market). For the cheap price this is worth it.

where do u buy ur screen?
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