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The wife and I watched Gravity in 3d with the new bulb, looked really good. Much better than the theater. I really think I am going to using dlp for a long while. I love the focus, motion handling and 3d performance. I was thinking about a 5030 but saw one recently at a home theater store and was reminded of yet another plus for dlp, a higher fill ratio. The pixels on LCD are far more noticeable when you get closer to the screen.
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10 months and mine won't even power on anymore. I tried to get service to do a chat but they make you put in the serial # and they tell me my warranty expired 3 months before I even got it.

I did finally get a hold of someone. Have my fingers crossed. I LOVE the PJ and the 3D but there are so many little headaches with it. With all the issues this model has had I really wouldn't mess with a refurb again.

To their credit, Acer absolutely did right by me. The PJ was NOT under warranty any more (be more careful buying a refurb than I was- a 3 mo PJ warranty is nearly worthless) but they fixed it at what had to have been extreme cost to them (optical block and many more parts were replaced) and they even shipped it back to me next day air as I needed it for a gathering that had been on the calendar for a long time.

It works (knocking on wood) like a champ and I now consider it one of the best values I have ever bought (got it for ~$700 refurb). The 3D is awesome and I don't see any rainbows.
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Figured I'd come back and toss a comment in here. My second H9500BD (full replacement) has worked pretty well, but I do occasionally need to completely unplug it and replug it because the red standby light is not lit. Downside: Every time this happens, I loose all my custom configuration for colors/brightness/etc.

If I were advising anyone now, I'd say steer clear of the unit. Too many small issues that kept it from being a solid purchase. When it's working, it does have a great picture and (at the time I bought it) an untouchable feature set for the price.

Hoping I get another 12 months out of mine.
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Good to hear there are still some 9500s out there making their owners happy!
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I changed out my 1585 hour original bulb last week after slowly realizing that my contrast was dropping and my colors didn't seem very deep. This was even more noticeable with the lack of shadow detail in 3D.

The new bulb brought the projector back to life and is MUCH more vibrant.
I think I was a frog in boiling water for a little while. My wife also noted the improvement (if only she felt the same way about some of my additional speakers).

It was well worth the ~$113 shipped from a US seller for a new phillips bulb on ebay. Changing it took about 30 mins total going slowly and wearing gloves to avoid getting any finger oil on the bulb. The phillips bulb was silver on the back where the original wasn't but fit and has been working perfectly.

One thing I will note is that the bulb assembly really didn't want to come out of the projector. I had to pull on it slightly harder than I would have thought even after the two screws that hold it in were removed.

Also be very careful with the latch on the bulb door. If you try to install the door without the latch in the right place it is very easy to break the latch....

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I changed out my 1585 hour original bulb last week after slowly realizing that my contrast was dropping and my colors didn't seem very deep. This was even more noticeable with the lack of shadow detail in 3D.

The new bulb brought the projector back to life and is MUCH more vibrant.
I think I was a frog in boiling water for a little while. My wife also noted the improvement (if only she felt the same way about some of my additional speakers).

It was well worth the ~$113 shipped from a US seller for a new phillips bulb on ebay. Changing it took about 30 mins total going slowly and wearing gloves to avoid getting any finger oil on the bulb. The phillips bulb was silver on the back where the original wasn't but fit and has been working perfectly.

One thing I will note is that the bulb assembly really didn't want to come out of the projector. I had to pull on it slightly harder than I would have thought even after the two screws that hold it in were removed.

Also be very careful with the latch on the bulb door. If you try to install the door without the latch in the right place it is very easy to break the latch....

-Rich
So, I might have more hours than you. Just a couple of quick questions. Do you use the Dynamic Iris? I started noticing a while ago that the picture seemed more dim, and that I needed all the lumens the PJ could muster, so I don't really use the Dynamic Iris anymore. Also 3D looks darker than in the past.

You don't think installing the lamp into the housing and the PJ was too difficult? I know you can buy the lamp and housing together, but that's like $100+ more. Any observations that would push me over the edge? I am at a stage where I know I can put up with it a little longer, but, am tempted to just buy a new lamp.
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So, I might have more hours than you. Just a couple of quick questions. Do you use the Dynamic Iris? I started noticing a while ago that the picture seemed more dim, and that I needed all the lumens the PJ could muster, so I don't really use the Dynamic Iris anymore. Also 3D looks darker than in the past.

You don't think installing the lamp into the housing and the PJ was too difficult? I know you can buy the lamp and housing together, but that's like $100+ more. Any observations that would push me over the edge? I am at a stage where I know I can put up with it a little longer, but, am tempted to just buy a new lamp.
My projector was just overall darker than it should have been. 3D was really bad and is now back to life.

I do use the iris on medium. At one point I had gone into the settings and tweaked it but I think it is just default medium now (after the firmware update the high setting is no longer there).

I bought just the bulb and had handled it with gloves on. I actually had some thin cloth gloves laying around that came with my speakers so I just used those and didn't touch the inside of the reflector for fear of putting a dust flake or fabric flake on it. Neoprene or latex gloves should work well too, I was just worried about getting any finger oil on the bulb which really wasn't an issue since there is no reason to touch the bulb glass anyway.

It took me about 30-45 mins going slow. The worst part was that my housing was somewhat stuck in the projector and did not want to come out. I had to pull harder than I thought I would to get it out after removing the screws that hold it in. I also forgot to tighten the screws that hold the housing into the projector at first on final install (which pulls it fully into the connector) and the door wouldn't close. Also be very careful with the door latch it is easy to break and the projector won't turn on if it doesn't press the safety in. Push the release in when putting the door back in place or if you push on it with the latch out it can break. I broke the latch when I got it new and was inspecting it and was nearly without a projector until they replaced it (had to use a twist tie to hold it for a while).

I got a phillips bulb from an ebay seller and it fit perfectly. The housing dis-assembly was pretty obvious by I am also pretty handy and work on cars a lot (or used to anyway). You do have to flex the housing slightly to get it apart but it wasn't bad and I was never near breaking it.

After doing it I felt that the choice was correct and that it was worth the extra 20-30 mins rather than more money to buy the complete bulb with new housing.

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Do yourself a favor and buy a new lamp. It isn't that hard to do, I posted some pics earlier this year. It's like getting a new projector for a little over a 100 dollars.

With the short fan cool down runtime on the 9500 I think we get short changed on lamp life. I have been taking lumen readings and I don't think we will ever get anywhere near the rated lamp life. If Acer would have only set the cool down fan to run for a minute or so.
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Do yourself a favor and buy a new lamp. It isn't that hard to do, I posted some pics earlier this year. It's like getting a new projector for a little over a 100 dollars.

With the short fan cool down runtime on the 9500 I think we get short changed on lamp life. I have been taking lumen readings and I don't think we will ever get anywhere near the rated lamp life. If Acer would have only set the cool down fan to run for a minute or so.
Unfortunately even if they updated the firmware I don't think we can actually upgrade from a USB stick anyway and it would have to be sent in. I am somewhat surprised that fan cool down can't be increased from the debug menus. Obviously decreasing the time wouldn't be allowed but increases seem reasonable...

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I was wondering if Netflix 3d works for others. That is the only source of 3d that I have, playing via my Panasonic 3d bluray player. Unfortunately I don't get any 3d effect. So before I start testing various possible issues, I wanted to make sure it works ok for others.

Also does anyone have Kraine's settings? The images that he posted are no longer available.
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I was wondering if Netflix 3d works for others. That is the only source of 3d that I have, playing via my Panasonic 3d bluray player. Unfortunately I don't get any 3d effect. So before I start testing various possible issues, I wanted to make sure it works ok for others.

Also does anyone have Kraine's settings? The images that he posted are no longer available.

It worked for me a few months ago. It felt a little off but then the batteries could be bad in my glasses. What happens? Also make sure you put the projector in 3d mode. It doesn't do a good job with switching back and forth between 2d and 3d so I manually switch it into 3d mode before watching 3d content.
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It worked for me a few months ago. It felt a little off but then the batteries could be bad in my glasses. What happens? Also make sure you put the projector in 3d mode. It doesn't do a good job with switching back and forth between 2d and 3d so I manually switch it into 3d mode before watching 3d content.
I don't get any 3d depth. If I choose 2d -> 3d in the projector, via sbs or other settings I get 3d depth but it's all wrong. I get nothing in auto mode. I just wanted to see if I need a 2d-3d converter. It might be my HDMI switch or my HDMI cable might be the wrong spec.
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I don't get any 3d depth. If I choose 2d -> 3d in the projector, via sbs or other settings I get 3d depth but it's all wrong. I get nothing in auto mode. I just wanted to see if I need a 2d-3d converter. It might be my HDMI switch or my HDMI cable might be the wrong spec.
3d always has to be enabled manually. If you leave it on then it lowers the contrast significantly in order to compensate for the glasses...

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3d always has to be enabled manually. If you leave it on then it lowers the contrast significantly in order to compensate for the glasses...

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I have 3d enabled in the settings. I've tried auto,frame packed, sbs, and top/bottom. Nothing works. Only if it's 2d to 3d. I rented I, Frankenstein bluray that has both 2d and 3d versions from Redbox. I get an error "input not supported under 3d mode". I tried 2 different cables and took the hdmi switches out of the equation. I'm guessing my cable isn't 1.4a rated?
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Well that's probably not the problem either. I found a high speed HDMI cable that says supports 3D, but gave me the same error. It didn't list the actual specification though.
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Uh Funktuna, what is exactly the problem. You should be able to watch the bluray in 3D, because the PJ support FramePacking (this is the only 3D format your bluray will output).
Leave the 2D-3D conversion alone, because you won't need this for real 3D movies. Its just to convert 2D to (very) bad 3D.
You could test by downloading a SBS (side by side) movie and hookup your laptop to the PJ.

You also have to set the 3D manual to ON (you will see that the screen will get greenish).

Unfortunately my H9500BD has broken down, the powerunit cannot ignite my bulb anymore (and warranty has past a while ago), but I think the Acer PJ is not worth repairing.
So I bought a Benq W1070+ now and i'm very happy with it
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Uh Funktuna, what is exactly the problem. You should be able to watch the bluray in 3D, because the PJ support FramePacking (this is the only 3D format your bluray will output).
Leave the 2D-3D conversion alone, because you won't need this for real 3D movies. Its just to convert 2D to (very) bad 3D.
You could test by downloading a SBS (side by side) movie and hookup your laptop to the PJ.

You also have to set the 3D manual to ON (you will see that the screen will get greenish).

Unfortunately my H9500BD has broken down, the powerunit cannot ignite my bulb anymore (and warranty has past a while ago), but I think the Acer PJ is not worth repairing.
So I bought a Benq W1070+ now and i'm very happy with it
How would you compare the two? I don't know much about the 1070 but the Acer's color and the horrible user settings are driving me a little crazy.
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Well I have bought the W1070+, because the Acer H9500BD will not fire up my bulb anymore. In the past it did that a few times, but after pulling the plug a few times it did fire. Now it won't do that anymore.
Also the Acers remote sometimes refused to work, so that experience decided me not to repair the Acer.

These are some important differences I see with the Benq W1070+ and the Acer H9500D.

- The housing and weight of the Benq is not a huge and heavy as the enormous Acer, so this alone is a ++ for the Benq.
- The picture of the Benq is (even on eco-mode) much brighter then the Acer. My PJ-Screen is 3mtr, but the Benq is not too bright for that.
- When changing source or resolution/fps the Acer always showed the annoying Acer-switching thingy for a long time, the Benq is much quicker at that, what a relief.
- I can change the colors, even fine-tune colors for an optimal result and store them in 3 user-presets or overwrite three pre-defined presets.
- Changing or experimenting with colors or settings does not result in all settings being screwed up like the Acer
- The cooling down of the Benq is better, it turns off the lamp and the fan will run for a minute or so before it shuts down. The Acer did a full blow for 5 seconds and then turned off, which is bad for the bulb.
- The remote has some smart features where you can change some things fast, like sharpness, lamp-brightness, 3D on/off (or make it 2D), color-settings.
- The Benq has a keystone correction which responds very quickly when you press the remotes button. It can change left/right but also up/bottom which the Acer could not do.
- VERY important, the Benq has a 6-color wheel and you will see almost NO rainbow effect with this PJ, with the Acer I always saw rainbow. So thats a huge, huge ++
- The contrast of the Benq is better than the Acer. I must say that I did not use the iris thing of Acer because of its lag en noise it made.
- The fan of the Benq make less noise than the Acer, but not a huge difference.
- The Benq has an internal speaker which is handy sometimes, but I mostly use my surround system, so then I set it on mute.
- Sharpness of the Benq is better then the Acer
- The Benq does auto-detect 3D, yeahhh. I had set the Acer also on auto, but that never worked (and I had the latest firmware).

So almost only pros for the Benq, but we must not forget that the w1070+ is a 2014 model.
Note that I have enjoyed the Acer a lot and watched a lot of movies with it, but having tasted the W1070+ I certainly don't want to go back

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Well I have bought the W1070+, because the Acer H9500BD will not fire up my bulb anymore. In the past it did that a few times, but after pulling the plug a few times it did fire. Now it won't do that anymore.
Also the Acers remote sometimes refused to work, so that experience decided me not to repair the Acer.

These are some important differences I see with the Benq W1070+ and the Acer H9500D.

- The housing and weight of the Benq is not a huge and heavy as the enormous Acer, so this alone is a ++ for the Benq.
- The picture of the Benq is (even on eco-mode) much brighter then the Acer. My PJ-Screen is 3mtr, but the Benq is not too bright for that.
- When changing source or resolution/fps the Acer always showed the annoying Acer-switching thingy for a long time, the Benq is much quicker at that, what a relief.
- I can change the colors, even fine-tune colors for an optimal result and store them in 3 user-presets or overwrite three pre-defined presets.
- Changing or experimenting with colors or settings does not result in all settings being screwed up like the Acer
- The cooling down of the Benq is better, it turns off the lamp and the fan will run for a minute or so before it shuts down. The Acer did a full blow for 5 seconds and then turned off, which is bad for the bulb.
- The remote has some smart features where you can change some things fast, like sharpness, lamp-brightness, 3D on/off (or make it 2D), color-settings.
- The Benq has a keystone correction which responds very quickly when you press the remotes button. It can change left/right but also up/bottom which the Acer could not do.
- VERY important, the Benq has a 6-color wheel and you will see almost NO rainbow effect with this PJ, with the Acer I always saw rainbow. So thats a huge, huge ++
- The contrast of the Benq is better than the Acer. I must say that I did not use the iris thing of Acer because of its lag en noise it made.
- The fan of the Benq make less noise than the Acer, but not a huge difference.
- The Benq has an internal speaker which is handy sometimes, but I mostly use my surround system, so then I set it on mute.
- Sharpness of the Benq is better then the Acer
- The Benq does auto-detect 3D, yeahhh. I had set the Acer also on auto, but that never worked (and I had the latest firmware).

So almost only pros for the Benq, but we must not forget that the w1070+ is a 2014 model.
Note that I have enjoyed the Acer a lot and watched a lot of movies with it, but having tasted the W1070+ I certainly don't want to go back
Nice you make me want to buy the Benq! How old was the bulb in your Acer? I think the brightness on the 9500 goes down much faster than it should because of the shutdown sequence.
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Sorry that I make you want to buy the Benq now ;P

The Acer PJ was two and a half year old, but it did not run very much (I only mounted it when we were gone watch a movie).
So my guess is that my Acers bulbs hours are about 80 hours, so this bulb is not the problem I think.
Maybe Acer will repair it as service or maybe not, but I just don't want to go into that whole process and get a refurbished PJ that will maybe be defect after a year.
So I'm gone sell my Bulb and 3D glasses and get some bucks for those.

Today I received my 4 3D Benq D5 glasses and I tested them immediately.
In other forums people mentioned that the blacks looked red with the old D3/D4 glasses, but with these D5 glasses I do not have that problem.
The red turns into black when I put the glasses on.
Also (just as the Acer) no crosstalk or ghosting which I'm super sensitive to.

Funny actually, with the Acer the blacks were greenish and also turned to black when you put on the Acers 3D glasses.

Why these colors for 3D I ask myself, is that the color of the 3D flash ?
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Nice you make me want to buy the Benq! How old was the bulb in your Acer? I think the brightness on the 9500 goes down much faster than it should because of the shutdown sequence.
I haven't been on this thread for quite awhile, but wanted to touch base to see what was up and because I have a favor to ask (esp Joepa).

First off, I noted the bulb does dim pretty quickly. I use my PJ a fair amount (probably a couple hours a day??) and, while I definitely see the brightness go down fairly quickly, I have a light controlled room and it isn't so bad that it bothers me. I've been using my current bulb for almost 2 years so I feel like I've gotten my usage out of it. If it gets to a point that I want to change it, I will. I think I'll be nursing this along until 4K PJs start becoming more affordable and we have some source material with that kind of native resolution. I hope it lasts......so far so good.

Now, here's another thing. I tossed up a website recently and wanted to put something up there for people who are considering building a HT. It's at

http://www.cloudvistas.com/the-world...its-evolution/

If anyone would read it and let me know what they think, I'd appreciate the input. It's basically for someone who knows next to nothing about HT (like my friends who are thinking of building one.....we watched some football last season and they were blown away). You can PM me or just leave some feedback on the page itself.

Thanks.

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Family Room: Mitsubishi 73" 3D DLP, Sony BDP-S5100 3D Blu-Ray Player, Onkyo TX-SR333 5.1-Channel Home Theater Receiver; Polk Audio TL250 HP Surround w/PSW10 Subwoofer
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Does anyone have some calibrated settings for this projector. I bought my second hand a few months back and it was supposidly calibrated by the previous owner. While I can't do a side by side as my screen goes over my plasma.. Lifting the screen and looking at my chad b calibrated Panasonic st60 it looks damn close but figures I'd try others settings as well. I'll post mine a little later for others to try as well. As I said it looks damn close to my calibrated plasma which chad b did.
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Does anyone have some calibrated settings for this projector. I bought my second hand a few months back and it was supposidly calibrated by the previous owner. While I can't do a side by side as my screen goes over my plasma.. Lifting the screen and looking at my chad b calibrated Panasonic st60 it looks damn close but figures I'd try others settings as well. I'll post mine a little later for others to try as well. As I said it looks damn close to my calibrated plasma which chad b did.
IMHO the PJ (or any display) is calibrated in the room you are viewing. If previous owner calibrated it for his room how do you expect it to work exactly the same way in yours?
Don't sweat too much. If you like what you see and close enough to your plasma, just enjoy watching it than thinking about 0.1% improvement..
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