Originally Posted by joepaiii
For everyone who recently recieved an Acer, what are your first opinions?
I am feeling a little less wow with the 9500bd than I had hoped. Don't get me wrong, it has lots of great things about it but I guess I was hoping for more in terms of black levels. Maybe I will have to break down and reach up into the plus 3k category to get what I am after.
Starting with the packaging, the bag they send it out in is kind of interesting but I would rather them put that ten-20 bucks into better menu/firmware design (CMS??). Not sure what customers they envision carting this thing around in that bag, maybe students?
The quick start and users manual leave a lot to be desired, there is no mention of the included filter in the quick start and there was a black plastic piece included that I am still not sure what it is for. I inserted the filter and have not been running in high altitude mode which is what the manual requires. I will be removing it sometime today but I wanted to see what some other had to say first.
The unit itself is quite impressive, much heavier and sturdy than my old HD70.
Setup was relatively easier coming from the rear shelf mounted HD70. I lowered the shelf a little and sat the acer on the shelf, inverted of course. Getting the image perfectly centered is so much easier with lens shift, if you haven't played around with a projector that has lens shift you really don't know what you are missing.
Focus on the 9500bd is excelent compared to my HD70 and the two Epson 8350s I have used. I was able to get a calibration test image with small text in the 4 quadrants to focus in very well, much better than either the Optoma or the Epsons. I stepped through all the calibration images looking for quirks/problems and didn't spot any until I got to one that displays moire patterns. That look really bad and as I suspected it was the CFI (accuvision?) that was causing the issue. Artificating is what the reviewers call that I guess. I turned CFI off and the image looked perfect.
I also didn't see much iris action, so I dove into the menus. This may be a good place to talk about the remote and menus. They are really bad. Like cheap monitor bad. I really hate the way they designed both the remote and the gui for the menus. It is completely unintuitive and a pain to use. I am getting better, but the first ten minutes were very frustrating.
Back to the iris, it was disabled as a default in the mode I was in which I though was unusual. So I turned it to medium and went back to the calibration images. It seems to help a little but not as much as I had hoped. When I got to almost black screens it didn't seem to get as dark as I was hoping for. Someone earlier in the thread compare the black levels to the 8350 and the 8700 and they thought it was closer to the 8700. That was what I was hoping for, but in my case they are definitely closer to 8350. In fact it is tough to say if they are better than the 8350. I have never seen the 8700 in my theater so I can't really compare.
I did notice some very slight yo-yo at medium but I guess I am very sensitive to it, I don't think most people would realize it was happening unless they were looking for it. With the iris at high it is almost unusable.
The CFI is pretty cool, definitely adds the "soap-opera effect" to movies and makes them look almost 3d. I put in Terminator Salvation as that was a movie I closely looked at with the Epson and the Optoma and it has lots of great image detail and black scenes. I had the iris set to medium and cfi to medium. The image looked great in 2d really incredible. I don't like the soap opera look for movies but I have alway marveled at how good the displays look with it on and this projector looked spectacular. My 15 year old son came in when he heard the movie start up and said wow -that looks really good. He also noted that it looked almost 3d which is funny because that is how a lot of people talk about a good dlp 2d image here - it almost looks 3d.
So 2d blu ray looks great.
I then got the glasses out and switched on the 2d-3d. That was pretty cool, not sure if I would watch a movie like that but it was interesting. I quicky moved to the espn 3d channel and the HBO 3d on demand content. I was very impressed with the 3d on this projector. I don't have any real home theater comparison but I really liked the image. It was clear, the blacks looked good, and I didn't see any real ghosting. I would even say it is better than what you see at the cinema. Brighter and more saturated colors. I watched all of Final Destination and it looked really good. The snake scene had some right in your face pop-out, very cool.
I really wish that blacks were better in 2d but maybe I had too high of hopes. Let me explain a little more about what I am judging here. I want a projector that almost goes completely black when there is nothing but black on the screen and would like to see inky black bars in a 2.35:1 image. The 9500bd get pretty dark in those situations but not as "black" as I had hoped.
Overall the Acer 9500bd seems like a great value and a wonderful entry level 1080p 3d projector. Very happy with it but I think I am dreaming/drooling of what the Epson 5010 or the JVC RS-45 would look like... but those aren't really fair comparisons. I think from everything I have read that the 9500bd is much better than the HD33 or the 3010 so I am happy with my decision to buy one.