Originally Posted by slickru2
How are you are so willing to dismiss a front-projector's screen-shot for color and sharpness, yet stand by it for contrast? Please explain the logic behind that.
I have, and I don't pity those who can't see a difference, I envy
I have owned six different projectors which he has reviewed now, and with every one of them, the calibrated picture at my home looked multitudes better than the screen-shots.
Are you actually calibrating your projectors? What equipment/programs do you use to do so?
I have a very popular monitor commonly used for CAD 3D and game design throughout the industry, calibrated, and actually cost more than this projector new.... I wouldn't call it "garbage".
My point was, seeing "haze" in a front-projector screen-shot is very subjective and basing contrast performance on said screen-shot is very shortsighted. Art, at one time, put a disclaimer for his pics on the old reviews, and PC won't even bother with them to this day for the same reasons.
You still don't get it. I'm not saying your image at home won't look better than the pics. It should look better.
After taking hundreds of pics with different cameras and projectors and comparing them at home with different exposures. Has led me to my conclusions.
If you used the same camera with the same exposure times, screen, room , basically the same parameters.You'd understand what I'm talking about. A 1 or 2 second exposure along with similar ISO should wash the image a bit, depending on the brightness of the particular scene. That exposure makes it easier for those that can't see the differences, able to see the differences in contrast.
I'm not referring to colors or anything of that nature.
Now, if those projectors have near identical contrast, the differences will be difficult to see. Get two different level of projectors, an entry level unit and a mid tier projector. Chances are the exposure will give you an indication of the contrast differences between those two projectors.
Once you've seen what an image looks like with those indications. It is easier to discern them. Arts night train images seem consistent with what I've seen taking my own pics and comparing.
Now I can look at his shots in that area and easily tell where these projectors fall as far as contrast. Just contrast OK.
Here are two pics I've taken from to different projectors, using identical parameters. This is the last time I'll post about this. I don't won't to derail this thread. I did a basic cal on both of these projectors for black levels using the AVS709 downloads.
Can you tell me from looking at your monitor, top or bottom. Which of these is the higher contrast projector? I have a non videophile girlfriend that picked the correct pair within seconds of looking at a monitor. The differences are more drastic in person..as always.
Now if your monitor is decent, you should see haze in one pair compared to the other. That's the haze I'm referring too. It is similar to walking in a smoke filled room in comparison to one with no smoke. And trying to identify a person on the other side of that room.
if you see the two low contrast alone, you may possibly never notice just how low the contrast is. if you put them next to a higher contrast image. They stick out like a sore thumb.