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post #1 of 11 Old 11-29-2011, 08:51 PM - Thread Starter
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I currently own a Sony VPL-HS20 and am looking to get a 1080p projector. I am trying to keep cost down and have been looking at the following:

Optoma HD20
Epson 8350
Epson 6500UB (refurb)
Mitsubishi HC4000

All are about $1000 (HD20 a little less) so any thoughts about which one to go with.

My room size is 13' x 18' with only 7' ceiling. I currently have my projector on a low shelf about 14' from the screen. This is in a basement with virtually no light coming in, but would want a little light when people are over for sporting events. I primarily use it for sports and action movies.

Are the projectors listed above a step up from what I currently have for watching sports?

Thanks for any input.
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My friend just ordered the HD20 so I will try to compare that to my VPL-HS20 to see if there is an improvement in PQ for HD material. If not, I will stick with what I have until I can save up for something better. The Epson 6500UB seems to get good feedback here, but again not sure how much of a step up that would be.

Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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I had a VPL-HS20 . I bought it in 2003.

In 2006 I bought a Panasonic PT-AX100 and it was a big improvement.

In 2008 I bought an Epson 1080UB and it was a big improvement over the AX100 and a huge improvement over the HS20.

From my experience, I would guess that the 6500UB would be a huge improvement for you. It seems like $1000 might be a little high, but I don't really know for sure.

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Thanks karlsch for your input. I am glad to hear from a former VPL-HS20 owner. I bought mine a couple years ago to try out a home theater in my basement and have been pretty happy with it (considering the low overall cost). I just don't get the clarity I would like, so I am glad to hear that the projectors I am considering would provide a noticable improvement.

Since watching sports is a high priority, would the Mitsubishi HC4000 be a better choice than the Epson 6500UB?

I have also read about the limited flexibility in projector placement for the HC4000. With my low ceiling (only about 7' 4") I have been placing the projector on a low table. Which projector works better in this type of setup?
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The strange thing about move to 1920 x 1080 is the disappointment. Doubling number of pixels seemed to my mind a serious improvement in picture quality, but visually that was not the case. I tried several projectors and finally returned them and continued with my Sony HS10 and my Sharp 12Kmk2.
My recommendation: try another projector with very clear right to return it. Watch return details carefully - some places impose 15% re-stocking fee.
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I continue to read various posts and am considering the following:

Epson 6500UB (refurb)
Mits HC4000
Benq W6000

This again would be in a basement with virtually no ambient light, a 7'4" ceiling projected onto a 100" screen. Use would be 60% sports, 30% movies, 10% gaming.

I read a lot of great things about the Epson but will it be good for sports?
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I upgraded from an Sony aw15 which is 2 gens up from the HS-20 to the Epson 6500UB refurb , on a 92" screen sitting 11 ft away , I definitely appreciate the difference in resolution.
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Hands down HC4000. Read the review that coderguy did! The HC4000 is a great projector for sports. If you a need a slightly brighter projector then maybe even the W1200 or W1100.

Btw, since you mentioned the W6000, the W7000 just came out, but its kind of beyond your price range haha, but thought you'd be interested regardless

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While waiting for w7000 I tried w6000. This comes with 30 days trial from Amazon.com. Today I noticed they dropped the price a bit more.

Tried many projectors, and w6000 is the best ever in my house. For 3D folks w7000 is better, but I don't want 3D and w6000 stays. I can't believe this projector with cheap lens beats Sharp 12kMk2 with its expensive Minolta lens. This Minolta lens alone costs twice as much as BenQ w6000.

Without serious tweaking the projector put out a stunning picture. Brightness seems about as bright as Sony HS10 with brand-new lamp and when you remove the pinkish filter. Probably remains bright way out to 2000 hours and longer.
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Thanks for the input (gwmm, chumpchange21 and emf).

I am glad to hear you found a projector you are very happy with emf. I am not really interested in 3D and want to keep cost down so not really looking at the w7000.

I will take a closer look at the HC4000 review by coderguy. Would projector placement be an issue with the HC4000?

gwmm, do you watch much football on the 6500UB and if so how well does it handle the motion?
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I too have a Sony HS20, bought it about 7 or 8 yrs ago I guess.

It's ran trouble free in my light controlled basement theater.

I'm itching for an upgrade, considering ~$1k buys you what $3k did back in those days.

Really looking at the BenQ W1100 or w1200.

Most content is sports or movies, with the occasional directv.
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