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Can someone post calibration settings? To me that would be the most useful piece of information possible.

Also I have run through the pixel allignment process and when I adjust Horizontal or vertical nothing happens. I have tried at the corners and center intersections and even with extreme -15 or +15 adjustments nothing visible happens. I have an obvious alignment problem, (Red can plainly seen to the right of my white lines at about 1 pixel distance off). Anyone have any ideas why nothing seems to move red back into white?

I am in the RGB color space and have selected R as the panel to adjust FYI

Set everything back to default on the LCD Pixel Alignment.
Now, start the alignment.
Don't do any of the 4 corners and get to when it asks you to pick a spot on the screen.
Bring the box down to about the middle of the screen or somewhere the red is off alignment.
I believe you select Enter and the box should turn into a +
Now try to make adjustments.

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Then I am good, thanks guys.

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I have one of the first Epson PowerLite Home Cinema Projectors, I don't think they had a number on this model, but I love it. Has been working great for 4-5 years. Now all this talk of this new projector has me itching to get the 5010.

My projector is a good 30 feet away from the screen. I read that the 3D emitter was only good for 16 feet. Is this the distance from the screen, or the viewers? In my case the screen is 25 feet away, but the viewers are only 10 feet away since the project is placed all the way at the back of the room.


Here is a link to my setup...
http://paintonscreen.com/cgi-bin/gal...allery.pl?i=13
http://paintonscreen.com/cgi-bin/gal...allery.pl?i=12

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I understand how a mechanical alignment is possible, but it seems it would only apply to the entire panel. How are only the corners/and or just certain points of the convergence being aligned? Does overall correction move the entire panel, and the corner alignment type stuff accomplished by the panel tilting or something??
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I understand how a mechanical alignment is possible, but it seems it would only apply to the entire panel. How are only the corners/and or just certain points of the convergence being aligned? Does overall correction move the entire panel, and the corner alignment type stuff accomplished by the panel tilting or something??

*This is just my observation and not fact.

I believe the initial 4 corner adjustments are digital/SW adjustments.
Then when you select coordinates and make adjustments, it seems the entire panel moves because when I selected the middle left side of the screen and adjusted the vertical, I could see changes on the right side as well.

I hope Epson puts out an updated manual out soon with some guidelines and details about this features.

I've got close to perfect convergence on 75% of the screen with about a half pixel off on green on the left edge. This is not noticed from normal viewing distance.

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My projector is a good 30 feet away from the screen. I read that the 3D emitter was only good for 16 feet. Is this the distance from the screen, or the viewers?

This is just a rough estimate. It depends a lot on your room arrangement. E.g., the IR signal can also be reflected off the side walls etc. Just give it a try. If the signal is too weak at the seating position, you can still get an external emitter.

In my case the glasses even pick up the signal outside of the room through an open door (without direct line of sight to either the projector or the screen), so it seems to be a pretty strong signal.
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Thanks for the info.
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I took some additional measurements of the Epson for the purpose of determining how the zoom affects contrast and light output. I also tested the Dynamic Iris.

The zoom impacts performance just as you would expect. At long zoom you get less light but more contrast.

Using the Natural Mode, Low lamp after calibration
Long throw: 467 lumens and 6635:1 contrast
Short throw: 618 lumens and 3867:1 contrast

The auto-iris seems to provide a 3x multiple. I got just over 15,000:1 compared to about 5,000:1 native.

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Review of the RS45 and some notes comparing the 5010.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1627

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How many 5010 owners use the CFI and Super Resolution? Does it work pretty good?
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How many 5010 owners use the CFI and Super Resolution? Does it work pretty good?

CFI - For TV & sports it's acceptable but I just don't like the soap opera look even though it smooths out fast panning motion blur.
CFI at 1 isn't that notiable but I can tell it's on It's just a matter of preference.
I tend to leave it off since I primarily watch movies.

Super Resolution - played with it but left it at 0.
Setting it to 3 will cause ringing.

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CFI - For TV & sports it's acceptable but I just don't like the soap opera look even though it smooths out fast panning motion blur.
CFI at 1 isn't that notiable but I can tell it's on It's just a matter of preference.
I tend to leave it off since I primarily watch movies.

Super Resolution - played with it but left it at 0.
Setting it to 3 will cause ringing.

When you say movies do you mean blu-ray or standard def?
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Blu-ray

Try using the standard Sharpness instead of Super Resolution.
It doesn't add noticeable ringing.

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I have one of the first Epson PowerLite Home Cinema Projectors, I don't think they had a number on this model, but I love it. Has been working great for 4-5 years. Now all this talk of this new projector has me itching to get the 5010.

My projector is a good 30 feet away from the screen. I read that the 3D emitter was only good for 16 feet. Is this the distance from the screen, or the viewers? In my case the screen is 25 feet away, but the viewers are only 10 feet away since the project is placed all the way at the back of the room.


Here is a link to my setup...
http://paintonscreen.com/cgi-bin/gal...allery.pl?i=13
http://paintonscreen.com/cgi-bin/gal...allery.pl?i=12

Thanks.


My friend has his 6010 21 feet away from his screen and all is good.

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Art/Projector reviews had corrected the calibration info.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...alibration.php

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Does this projector have sealed optics?
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Does this projector have sealed optics?

good question movie_fan. My earlier Epson projector had a couple of dust blobs at 200 hours. My room is pretty clean so i'm pretty scared of these Lcd projectors.
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Does anyone know where the on-board emitter is located on the pj ?

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Next to the lens.
You can actually see about 9 infrared LEDs light up when the projector switches to 3D mode.

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Can someone post calibration settings? To me that would be the most useful piece of information possible.

Calibration levels can be different based on screen material, screen size, source room, source player, paint color, age of bulb etc. If there was one universal calibration, it would have been set at the factory.

They can only be used as a rough guide if you have similar equipment throughout the chain. (From source to screen type, including room paint color)

Speaker design is rather an art. There is no such thing as the perfect painting. Likewise there is no such thing as a perfect speaker. It's part science and part personal preference.
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How many 5010 owners use the CFI and Super Resolution? Does it work pretty good?

I tried it but didn't like it. It seems to take away from the crispness. (is that a word?)
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"Super Resolution" works well on lower resolution sources like DVDs. I don't use it for Blu-rays though.
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I tried it but didn't like it. It seems to take away from the crispness. (is that a word?)

I also dont like the CFI, sometime I notice motion seems not natural.
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I found this site and ordered one. Received tracking # today. Epson does not show it available on their site.

http://www.adorama.com/IES3DIR.html?...point0Product1

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I took some additional measurements of the Epson for the purpose of determining how the zoom affects contrast and light output. I also tested the Dynamic Iris.

The zoom impacts performance just as you would expect. At long zoom you get less light but more contrast.

Using the Natural Mode, Low lamp after calibration
Long throw: 467 lumens and 6635:1 contrast
Short throw: 618 lumens and 3867:1 contrast

The auto-iris seems to provide a 3x multiple. I got just over 15,000:1 compared to about 5,000:1 native.

Tom,

Did you measure brightness in high lamp mode? I think the expected increase is 34% (707 lumens long throw, 936 lumens short throw), but I am curious is you measured to confirm.

Also, if I am doing the math correctly, your measured difference in long and short throw is 24%, which is significantly better than the 32-34% I have seen cited elsewhere. I'll be at near max throw for my screen size and need as many lumens as I can get, so that makes the 5010/6010 even more attractive for me.

Thanks,
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I found this site and ordered one. Received tracking # today. Epson does not show it available on their site.

http://www.adorama.com/IES3DIR.html?...point0Product1

Bill

Does this connect to the projector via a cable? I see a connector on the rear of my projector. I would like to have an emitter that I can place under my screen facing toward the seating area.

Epson has no information on their Web site.

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hi there...lurker here for years and years...it would be nice to see some movie screen shots of the 5010.
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Hi all. Can people provide some recommendations for a ceiling mount for my 5010 which just arrived ! I saw Plasmaman mentioned Peerless and Chief. Is there a specific model you can point me to that is solid and a good fit without DIY modifications ? I will want the mount to be as flush with the ceiling as possible, as it is going to be placed a few feet in front of the main viewing seats. Also, I am mounting it to a finished ceiling that is acoustic type tiles glued on to what I expect will be sheetrock. Silly question from a first timer - what is the best way to anchor the mount to a support beam but still place projector in the desired area ? Otherwise, I realize with the 5010, I can use horizontal lens shift. Thanks.
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Hi all. Can people provide some recommendations for a ceiling mount for my 5010 which just arrived ! I saw Plasmaman mentioned Peerless and Chief. Is there a specific model you can point me to that is solid and a good fit without DIY modifications ? .

The epson 6010 comes with the chief 2500 mount, the 5010 will use the same mount. I bought the 6010 over the 5010 because it works out cheaper in the end after you buy the mount and glasses, plus it came with spare bulb.
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The epson 6010 comes with the chief 2500 mount, the 5010 will use the same mount. I bought the 6010 over the 5010 because it works out cheaper in the end after you buy the mount and glasses, plus it came with spare bulb.

Thanks. There are many "2500" models on the Chief website. Do you know which one ? Here is the link : http://www.chiefmfg.com/Search/2500
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