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For a low ceiling, controlled light, primarily 2D, 150" 16:9, 1.2 gain fixed screen install... what would be best? The prices are fairly similar and within my max budget of $1400...

I hear great things about the 8350, but I'm not sure if it has the brightness for 150" at a distance of 15-22ft. The lens shift is great though. $1080 shipped with taxes.

The 3010 is very bright, but lacks lens shift and I would have to use digital keystone to get a useable picture. 3D is interesting novelty but we usually watch dramas $1349 shipped including tax.

The BenQ W6000 I don't know much about. I think it's bright enough, not sure about lens shift or if it would work with low ceilings (I can do ceiling or shelf mount) $1249-1400 shipped including tax.
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For a low ceiling, controlled light, primarily 2D, 150" 16:9, 1.2 gain fixed screen install... what would be best? The prices are fairly similar and within my max budget of $1400...

I hear great things about the 8350, but I'm not sure if it has the brightness for 150" at a distance of 15-22ft. The lens shift is great though. $1080 shipped with taxes.

The 3010 is very bright, but lacks lens shift and I would have to use digital keystone to get a useable picture. 3D is interesting novelty but we usually watch dramas $1349 shipped including tax.

The BenQ W6000 I don't know much about. I think it's bright enough, not sure about lens shift or if it would work with low ceilings (I can do ceiling or shelf mount) $1249 shipped including tax.

i don't think those projctors can light up that screen properly but i m no expert
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Since you said "light controlled room", I will tell you all three will do just fine at 150".
I have installed and run the w6000 on a 16 foot screen and it looked outstanding as far as brightness.
I never really understand why people are concerned about brightness so much when they have bat caves and light controlled rooms.
In my opinion, most projectors you buy today are light cannons and will easily light up screens well above 130" if the room light is controllable.
Check http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...ulator-pro.cfm
The DLP's are going to be a bit harder to place of course so check the calculator to help you narrow your choices down.

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As enthusiasts we are most concerned with best mode brightness rather than torch modes. The 8350 is not nearly bright enough except in the blown out torch modes.

The Benq w6000 is bright enough for most at this size, but if you are a heavy user and like a really bright image with accurate post-calibrated color, you may find it not bright enough after 500-1000 hours, but for most it should be fine. The 3010 is bright enough.

The Benq w6000 has the best image out of these three choices and unless you are RBE sensitive that is the one I'd take. You could also consider the Benq w1200 as another option for this screen size.


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Thanks for the tips!

One nice aspect about the 8350 was the lens shift and flexible mounting positions. But, as stated earlier, is likely underpowered for the room.

Would either the W6000 (or w1200) or the Epson 3010 be able to fit into a room like this ( I tried the calculators but got conflicting information)... I'll give it another try but perhaps someone knows for sure:

The projector could be shelf-mount, ceiling mounted behind the second conduit, or even mounted just below or in front of the second conduit. The 2 possible positions shown above are likely too far back as viewer's heads would interfere with the throw. 12-17' seems more likely.

The screen will likely be 8-10" off the ground and a few inches from the ceiling, 16:9, 150", 1.2 gain.
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Easy 6000!! so much sharper!! the epsons are dull!
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Trying some of the calculators:
BenQ W6000 = 12-13fl @ 20' to 17' 8"
BenQ W7000 = 15-16.9fl @ 22' to 17' 8"

Epson 3010 showed only having a 2" pole, therefore would have to be in front of the 2nd conduit I think. At that range:
Epson 3010 = 23.5fl @ 14' 5" (15fl with iris closed)

Epson 8350 = 9.2fl @ 15'5"
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Interesting, I had no idea about BenQ and probably would have ignored the brand before this thread. I'll have to get up to speed on the W6000 and W7000..
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I would go for the W6000 as long as you aren't affected by RBE.
Also keep in mind that the W6000 iris is a bit noisy and the fan is on the loud side.

Besides the noise, the W6000 projects a great sharp picture.
*OOTB color is not the greatest so you might need to do a bit of tweaking to get the color right.

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If you want your jaw to drop then you have to go the DLP way, dont buy LCD trust me
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If you want your jaw to drop then you have to go the DLP way, dont buy LCD trust me

My jaw didn't drop watching the W6000.
I just kept seeing rainbows.

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I read some where watching to much porn over the years increases your chance of seeing rainbows, maybe cut down
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FYI: read a review on Epson3010, keystone will degrade the HD quality of your video. If you can't project this w/o using keystone, stay away from it.
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I got a 3010 for Christmas and its shelf mounted 29" off center in my dinette with an 8' bay window on the right,a 4'sq skylight and next to a 3'x4 window 15' from a 92" Sheetrock wall with 3 coats of stain kill primer and it is fantastic!! I watch all day ,no light control! It's hard to believe I can still play Mario kart with my grand son with full sunlight streaming in, and the 3d has to be experienced to be believed, I have permagrin!!!
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I am going to have to stick to my guns, buy a Benq w6000 from a place that allows returns, try it out and if it bothers you (noise or RBE), then you can get something else.

Keep in mind that even though the 3010 has a very bright best mode it comes with the trade-off of a lower native contrast compared to these other two.


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I'm skeptical the Epson 3010 could even throw a good picture once the keystone was set (an I assume I would need it). If I had higher unobstructed ceilings, it might be a good option though.

The BenQ W6000 looks promising. I've been using an InFocus SP-4805 DLP projector for 7 years or so and I don't see any rainbow effects.

Any others to consider? If not, the W6000 seems like the only real choice... and a pretty good one from what I hear. I just hope it can be positioned around all the conduits and heads

I think because of viewer's heads, it might need to be positioned around 17'8" - 19'
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The Benq w6000 will work great for your room and size. I have had mine for about 2 weeks. I actually projected it onto a beige wall up until a few days ago when I actually painted a diy screen using sherwin williams paint. For anyone not a videophile the picture is amazing and plenty bright for a 150 inch screen. I am projecting mine on 162inch 2:35 AR and we are loving it.

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I have demoed the 8350 and w6000 side by side in a large room (don't know dimensions Frys demo theater) and the BenQ had a much superior image. Much Sharper!!!!!

My wife did not like the 8350 either!! Not very often you get to see two projectors go head to head in the same room at the same time, but the BenQ is superior image wise and not by a little. If it can be positioned in your room and give you the size screen you want to use, I would Highly recommend it.

I ended up getting the Optoma HD3300 because it had 3D and could throw a larger image for my room length limitations. 120 screen at 13 feet. The w6000 could do neither, otherwise I would have purchased it.
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the W6000 is also $400-500 more than the 8350
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More like 100-300 since BenQ has come out with their new W7000 3d projector . Depending where you shop.
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More like 100-300 since BenQ has come out with their new W7000 3d projector . Depending where you shop.

i like to know where you shop.

the cheapest i've ever seen for the 8310 is 999, and the cheapest for w6000 is 1400.
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I paid 1299 for my w6000 at Frys. Pricematch from amazon.

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you're lucky to have a Frys in your area. More than half of the people in this country do not have access to a Frys, so it's highly YMMV.
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Absolutely the W6000'has great lens shift
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My jaw dropped. I see no rainbows. Must be viewer dependent.
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I love my W6000. Razor sharp, bright image. I do acknowledge that it is some of a long throw projector
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AVForums gave the W6000 a "good" review and the W1200 and "excellent" review which is hard to understand (unless they considered the price). I am getting myself lined up for a W6000 in June when my media room will (hopefully) be finished. I would have preferred the pana 4000 but that has unfortunately now been discontinued.

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Every projector has positives and negatives, so it's hard to just straight out give a projector a rating and reviewers are rating it on a given set of attriubtes which they decided are most important and are often flawed. The w1200 has a tad bit higher native contrast but no IRIS and is not any good at gaming because it has ridiculous lag (100ms+), the w6000 from my understanding has very little gaming lag, a decent IRIS, etc...

I would take the w6000 over all these unless rainbow sensitive in which case I'd look to a higher priced projector.


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Thanks for your valued input coderguy. The AVforums review complained about the lacking green on the W6000. Now, just thinking out out, would it help if the walls in my media room are painted green. I am thinking this on the back some projectors compensating for the color of the room.

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Every projector has positives and negatives, so it's hard to just straight out give a projector a rating and reviewers are rating it on a given set of attriubtes which they decided are most important and are often flawed. The w1200 has a tad bit higher native contrast but no IRIS and is not any good at gaming because it has ridiculous lag (100ms+), the w6000 from my understanding has very little gaming lag, a decent IRIS, etc...

I would take the w6000 over all these unless rainbow sensitive in which case I'd look to a higher priced projector.

Coderguy, Do you by any chance know what the native contrast ratio is on the W6000? Thanks.

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