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I was thinking about pulling the trigger on an 8350, but stumbled across this deal. Includes a full two-year warranty and a 90-day bulb warranty. Visual Apex, I suppose I could say. With the price of the 8350 so low, this is essentially $300 or so less, roughly the price of a new bulb. Considering you can get the 8350 with an extra bulb, is this even worth it?
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I've asked this question several times and never gotten a definitive answer.

Does the 8100 use the inorganic D7 C2Fine panels used in the 8350? And what is the expected life of the organic panels? Do the inorganic panels have a longer expected life?

Does it even matter?

Having had an LCD projector blue panel fail (not an Epson), I might be overly sensitive to the issue.
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Where can you get the 8350 for $1050 with an extra bulb?
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According to Art @ ProjectorReviews.com
http://www.projectorreviews.com/1080..._vs_8500ub.php

The UB uses Epson's latest inorganic panels, while the 8100 uses older inorganic panels.
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Don't bother with the 8100, the 8350 is better.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say they can last anywhere from 5000 to 15,000 hours, it's all luck partly.
I would guess degradation in contrast might start well before 10,000 hours, but I'm not sure.


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I was thinking about pulling the trigger on an 8350, but stumbled across this deal. Includes a full two-year warranty and a 90-day bulb warranty.

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Where can you get the 8350 for $1050 with an extra bulb?

Curious to know if anyone has purchased the 8100 refurb and is happy with their quality and the condition they're in. I realize that the 8350 is newer and better, but is it $300 - $400 better (~50% higher than the $750 refurb 8100 price)? I'm on a budget and will also be purchasing a 100" portable screen.

Cheers.
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the 8100 was $724 for 1 day only
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I bought the 8100 on a refurb. from Projector People for $749...

Given that I could not find an 8350 for less than $1100, I decided to just pull the trigger and give the 8100 a swing for that price I really did not feel I could make a bad move.

I was upgrading from an HD-1000 (Mitsubishi, 720p) and I still have a LOT of work left to do to get everything set up correctly, but my initial reaction to the projector was WOW! I am very much pleased with the image size and clarity I am getting on a wall that is not smooth, not painted and not finished! The 8100 for me is a great buy...unless it starts exploding bulbs every 3-4 months I am going to be very happy.

Now a bit of an aside, you have to realize there are different levels of enthusiasts here...some people are happy to accept some limitations and lesser image quality in exchange for value and convenience or size while others are not happy no matter what - they seek perfection and expect or accept no less. I could never tell you which you are without knowing you on a personal level, but you know yourself! If you are the kind of AVS'er who is OK with some limits and compromises, its my opinion that a refurb 8100 represents outstanding value at the $750 price point...you simply are not going to find a unit that is substantially better across the board for that kind of money...HOWEVER, buying anything at this price point and expecting too much would be a mistake.

For example...I am perfectly willing to sacrifice some parameters of picture quality in exchange for size, so when I run my 8100 at 106" 16:9 and then zoom the image to fit a 126" scope screen I am one happy camper even though I know I am compromising the absolute best image in exchange for greater immersion. Now, if that is an unacceptable trade off for anyone personally, then they probably wouldn't be in the Under $3000 forum...lol! Not that there's anything wrong with trying to get the absolute best performance possible from whatever equipment you buy!

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The 8100 for me is a great buy...unless it starts exploding bulbs every 3-4 months I am going to be very happy.

Thanks for your time and your review. This is looking like a great value and the best choice for 1080p under a grand.

Cheers.
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