Coderguy's Top Projector Picks - Page 9 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #241 of 259 Old 10-30-2013, 08:56 AM
Senior Member
 
jimjimmyjones85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Can anyone suggest a great 2d with good 3d projector with a long throw ? I am throwing onto a 120" screen set 10" from the ceiling.
My current mount is 10" long as well and 17' from the screen.

Any assistance is helpful. Trying to stay below 2000.00$ Below $1,500 would be even better if possible.
jimjimmyjones85 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #242 of 259 Old 11-06-2013, 02:14 PM
Senior Member
 
jimjimmyjones85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjimmyjones85 View Post

Can anyone suggest a great 2d with good 3d projector with a long throw ? I am throwing onto a 120" screen set 10" from the ceiling.
My current mount is 10" long as well and 17' from the screen.

Any assistance is helpful. Trying to stay below 2000.00$ Below $1,500 would be even better if possible.

Beuller ? Beuller ? No suggestions?
jimjimmyjones85 is offline  
post #243 of 259 Old 11-06-2013, 05:45 PM
Advanced Member
 
FilmReverie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: The Grid
Posts: 652
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked: 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjimmyjones85 View Post

Beuller ? Beuller ? No suggestions?

So around 5 metres throw for a 120" image. The Benq w7000 or its soon to be released replacement the w7500 should work for that. It has amazing 3d and outside of its black levels amazing 2d. At this price point though it's black levels are good, they just don't compare with more expensive projectors. Some epsons also come to mind but I don't know enough about epson projectors to give more information.
FilmReverie is offline  
post #244 of 259 Old 11-13-2013, 07:13 AM
Senior Member
 
dwk123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Denver
Posts: 356
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I'm also potentially looking at a long-throw setup, and there don't seem to be many great options. My situation is even a bit more extreme - I'm hoping for a 100-106" screen from 19-20' away. This is a rec room setup, and there is a coffered ceiling where the PJ would normally mount, so my choices are either a long pole mount right in the middle of the room, or try for a back shelf mount.
Based on playing around with the projector calculator the ~2k options seem to be limited to the PT-AR100 and the Benq W7000. the big problem I'm running into is light fall-off at the far end of the zoom range. Even the 'light canon' PT-AR100 loses about 50% of it's lumens at this range, and 'only' provides about 18 ftl on a 106" screen. The W7000 does a bit better at ~24 ftl, but with the lack of vertical offset I'm not sure it'll clear the seating, and even for a 106" screen it wants to be a bit closer than would be ideal (I'd need to make a pretty deep shelf mount).
The Epson 5020 will also work, but once again you're not getting a lot of light - 17 ftl, and it's another step up in price.

In a completely dark env these brightness values levels would probably work OK, but I'm concerned that by the time you calibrate and account for any ambient light, they just may not be enough.

Any feedback on
a) other units that might work
b) whether I'm being too paranoid about light output.

As much as the rear shelf mount is attractive (makes running power/signal much easier, and would be visually cleaner), at the moment it looks like getting my existing HC4000 fixed (blown hdmi input) and using a pole mount is likely to be more satisfying than the rear shelf. I think I'd be willing to spend the 1.5-2k on a PJ for a shelf mount solution, but only if it offered a clear upgrade.
dwk123 is offline  
post #245 of 259 Old 11-13-2013, 07:50 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Mr.G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 80 Post(s)
Liked: 113
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwk123 View Post


b) whether I'm being too paranoid about light output.

This.

All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Movies

Mr.G is offline  
post #246 of 259 Old 11-13-2013, 08:12 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Mr.G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 80 Post(s)
Liked: 113
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwk123 View Post


Based on playing around with the projector calculator the ~2k options seem to be limited to the PT-AR100 and the Benq W7000. the big problem I'm running into is light fall-off at the far end of the zoom range. Even the 'light canon' PT-AR100 loses about 50% of it's lumens at this range, and 'only' provides about 18 ftl on a 106" screen.

Now that my quick response is done I will say that I can't speak for the other projectors you list but the AR100U will have no problem lighting a somewhat smallish 106" (16:9) even from 20 feet. If you are using the Projector Central calculator there is a problem with the values they show for the AR100U.

Try the Panasonic calculator:

http://panasonic.net/avc/projector/calculator/html/aspct169/ar100.html

Granted the 916 lux reading (105" screen @ 20 feet) is Dynamic - Full Mode, the eco mode will not lose you that big of a percentage.

All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Movies

Mr.G is offline  
post #247 of 259 Old 11-18-2013, 08:25 AM
Member
 
fightclub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 123
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hi, Coder
I am in China and seek your important advice!
I am watching 2D movies in living room and don't play TV game or watching 3D. My living room is just normal one with good thick curtain. My ceiling is white but my wall is ok, so shall be no light coming in. I usually watches movies at night.

My throw distance is 5.3M and watching distance is 4M. My screen is 1.0 and 120 inches.

Questions:
1. Is my normal living room environment more appropriate for RS46/X35 or HW50? Brightness or dark level, which one is more important in my environment?
2. For my 5.3M throw distance, is there difference for HW50 and JVC x35/RS46 for brightness? is RS46 bright enough?
3. even in my white ceiling room, is RS46/x35 still better for black level?

Many thanks!
Jeff
fightclub is offline  
post #248 of 259 Old 11-21-2013, 08:10 AM
AVS Special Member
 
PrimeTime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lower California
Posts: 1,730
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Liked: 33
*(bump for newcomers seeking advice)*
PrimeTime is offline  
post #249 of 259 Old 12-03-2013, 06:51 PM
Newbie
 
snsngh10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10

Hi guys

I am looking to purchase a low end projector for my basement to watch movies. Basement does not have windows so it will be completely dark with lights off.

I am looking at these 2 projectors and wondering what you guys think.

Optoma GT750 which is on sale near me for $470 and Benq ms616st for $314.

Thanks for the advice

snsngh10 is offline  
post #250 of 259 Old 12-03-2013, 10:44 PM
Member
 
freekmccoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: OHIO
Posts: 37
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by snsngh10 View Post

Hi guys
I am looking to purchase a low end projector for my basement to watch movies. Basement does not have windows so it will be completely dark with lights off.
I am looking at these 2 projectors and wondering what you guys think.
Optoma GT750 which is on sale near me for $470 and Benq ms616st for $314.
Thanks for the advice

If I were you,I would look into LED
I'm just waiting on the LGPA75U to go back on sale(was $499 just last week on Newegg-Sold out now)

...edit back in stock at newegg but now it's $649
freekmccoy is offline  
post #251 of 259 Old 12-04-2013, 11:30 AM
Newbie
 
snsngh10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by freekmccoy View Post


If I were you,I would look into LED
I'm just waiting on the LGPA75U to go back on sale(was $499 just last week on Newegg-Sold out now)

...edit back in stock at newegg but now it's $649

Thanks for the heads up on the LG projector. I read about the LG projector I guess it only has 700 lumens. I was wondering if that is going to be bright enough with the low lumens when compared to the other projectors i listed. 

snsngh10 is offline  
post #252 of 259 Old 12-06-2013, 03:51 AM
AVS Special Member
 
HTCrazy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: State of Disbelief
Posts: 4,888
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
I own the PA70G and can tell you LED lumens ARE different. My 700 lumens is brighter than any 1200 lumen bulb projector I've owned. In a fully light controlled room I'm getting a 300" picture in medium lamp mode. If you DONT have full light control you're better off with a bulb high lumen projector.
HTCrazy is offline  
post #253 of 259 Old 12-06-2013, 04:30 AM
Advanced Member
 
jamieuk147's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 617
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Whats the second best 3D projector for a large screen of 120" at 14ft ? I know the Sharp Z30000 is number 1 but cant buy in the UK and to much money

So whats second best?
jamieuk147 is offline  
post #254 of 259 Old 01-06-2014, 10:17 AM
Advanced Member
 
RPS13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 617
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 29
Thoughts on the Mitsu HC7900DW vs. the Benq W1070? They're priced very close to each other. It seems the Mitsu gives you CFI and a DI, while the Benq offers more peak brightness and a solid native contrast.

I can't find much data on relative sharpness of optics and whatnot other than it seems to be down to the particular projector you get, since there seems to be a variance of people saying each one is great, and each one has a blurry image with some CA.
RPS13 is offline  
post #255 of 259 Old 01-06-2014, 12:29 PM
Senior Member
 
wyen78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 307
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by snsngh10 View Post

Hi guys
I am looking to purchase a low end projector for my basement to watch movies. Basement does not have windows so it will be completely dark with lights off.
I am looking at these 2 projectors and wondering what you guys think.
Optoma GT750 which is on sale near me for $470 and Benq ms616st for $314.
Thanks for the advice

I have a gt750. it's main weakness is black levels and placement options (limited in placement). I've never used an led projector but even with the poster saying the lumens are "higher" than the 700 rating, this optoma is rated around 3000 lumens normal or 2000 in eco. The benefit here is for 3D, which this projector does quite well. The negative is black level.

Decide if 3D is important, and how important it is to you that should help you make a projector decision. I decided it was more important to have good 3D than to worry about the black levels. Also have you looked at dlp projectors before? This one has a 2X color wheel...it's slow, so if you're sensitive to RBE than do not get this projector. Also make sure unit is new, and if not new check the bulb hours. A replacement bulb is almost 300 bucks.

wyen78 is offline  
post #256 of 259 Old 01-06-2014, 01:02 PM
Member
 
skater2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 78
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPS13 View Post

Thoughts on the Mitsu HC7900DW vs. the Benq W1070? They're priced very close to each other. It seems the Mitsu gives you CFI and a DI, while the Benq offers more peak brightness and a solid native contrast.

I can't find much data on relative sharpness of optics and whatnot other than it seems to be down to the particular projector you get, since there seems to be a variance of people saying each one is great, and each one has a blurry image with some CA.

The HC7900 is priced low because it's an "end-of-life" projector and is a relatively high-end projector with optics to match. The W1070 is very much a price point projector - a nice one, and one that has made many people quite happy, but which possesses some compromises inherent in its price point. If you're not going to do a big screen (maybe, 106" tops) and you can achieve the necessary positioning for the projector (check Mitsu's online calculator), I think the concensus is that the 7900 will provide a nicer picture.
skater2 is offline  
post #257 of 259 Old 01-06-2014, 02:01 PM
Advanced Member
 
RPS13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 617
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 29
I have a 110" 1.2 gain, matte white screen, so I'm probably at the very limit of what the Mitsu can do for 3D. I don't think I'll have a problem with 2D.

The Mitsu seems to have better black levels, and probably slightly better on/off contrast with the dynamic iris, but I can't find much reliable info on contrast of the W1070.


The brightness does kinda worry me on the 7900... Otherwise I would have probably already pulled the trigger.
RPS13 is offline  
post #258 of 259 Old 01-19-2014, 03:26 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Skylinestar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,383
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 76 Post(s)
Liked: 60
Skylinestar is offline  
post #259 of 259 Old 01-19-2014, 09:49 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Deja Vu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: great white north
Posts: 4,352
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked: 101
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieuk147 View Post

Whats the second best 3D projector for a large screen of 120" at 14ft ? I know the Sharp Z30000 is number 1 but cant buy in the UK and to much money

So whats second best?

I have both the Sharp 30000 and the Mits HC8000. The Mits (8000 and 7900) doesn't have the horsepower for as large a screen as the Sharp, but it does have CFI (2D and 3D) and the best 2D to 3DC conversion I've seen yet. These are things the Sharp doesn't have. The Sharp is great, but the Mits (IMO) isn't far behind. Placement is a little tricky, but if your room can accommodate it the Mits is a very good 2D projector and a great 3D projector. The Mits will work for 120" in 2D (best with a HP screen) and you if you table mount it then just move it closer to the screen for a smaller and brighter 3D image.
Deja Vu is offline  
Reply Digital Projectors - Under $3,000 USD MSRP

Tags
Benq W1070 1080p 3d Projector , Jvc Dla Rs48 D Ila Projector , Jvc Dla Rs46 Projector , Benq W7000 Home Projection System , Sharp Xv Z30000 Dlp
Gear in this thread - W1070 by PriceGrabber.com

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off